NJS Pilots - 97% vote for Protected Industrial Action
Probably close to 50% of total NJS pilots voted.
The other 50% were not entitled to vote as they are on current AWA's.
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To make it clear, 1 voted No and 1 donkey vote.
The other 50% were not entitled to vote as they are on current AWA's.
Work No Choices
To make it clear, 1 voted No and 1 donkey vote.
Last edited by RENURPP; 25th Oct 2007 at 01:15.
Good Onyas
Good onya to the NJS Pilots. I hope you guys can strike a fair and equitable agreement out of your action. The QF LAMES are watching on with interest as their agreement negotiations teeter on the brink of Protected Industrial Action. All the best and Good Luck!
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Go get 'em!!! 
Now while 'no uniforms' (at all) would be a sight to see, we don't want to scare off the pax!!
Would love to see a combo of all 10. No use of 'private telephones' -PRICELESS! Clap on the back for whoever came up with that one! If they invoke that, NJS will have to pony up and buy everyone a phone if they want to be able to call them... yeah right!! And like anyone would answer it anyway!
Will be watching with interest... this has the potential to cause big waves around the place... knock-on effects to other carriers who use their services and so forth... XR better brace themselves as well!
Now while 'no uniforms' (at all) would be a sight to see, we don't want to scare off the pax!!
Would love to see a combo of all 10. No use of 'private telephones' -PRICELESS! Clap on the back for whoever came up with that one! If they invoke that, NJS will have to pony up and buy everyone a phone if they want to be able to call them... yeah right!! And like anyone would answer it anyway!
Will be watching with interest... this has the potential to cause big waves around the place... knock-on effects to other carriers who use their services and so forth... XR better brace themselves as well!
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Remoak. The TWU membership is probably about 75% (and rising) of all Company pilots and almost all of those have voted for industrial action at various meetings, even though they can't join in. Some others feel similarly but don't wish to join the TWU. ALL in all, feeling for the industrial action is very high amongst the NJS Pilots who couldn't vote this time. It isn't 100% support, but you will never get that from a group of individualist pilots. This result makes the AFAP's 'bleatings' that nothing could be done to influence NJS management look absolutely pathetic. The AFAP need a clean out of 'time servers' who no longer have the motivation or energy to kick goals for pilots.
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Is the goal here to abolish all AWA's and have everyone on a collective agreement?
What is the plan for current new pilots who are on AWA's? Will they get brought up to the A scale pay?
I am new to this discussion and would like to know specific goals.
PM me if you like.
GC
What is the plan for current new pilots who are on AWA's? Will they get brought up to the A scale pay?
I am new to this discussion and would like to know specific goals.
PM me if you like.
GC
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wouldn't that give the game away a little bit too soon?
if I'm wrong on this assumption, I'm sure someone with more knowledge will correct me
XR better brace themselves as well!
I don't think would be too many unhappy campers over at XR.
The QF LAMES are watching on with interest as their agreement negotiations teeter on the brink of Protected Industrial Action.
it's about time someone made some noise, let's hope the east coast is listening!!!!
With a federal election campaign in full swing
both major parties will also be watching very carefully, both will no doubt claim that this PIA proves their own case!Good luck and stick together
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So, let me get this straight!...
97% of half the NJS pilots voted for industrial action...
is that correct?
and, if so, does that mean that the other half (50%) will continue working?...
as what?...scabs, or simply not involved?
Someone like to enlighten me about this new form of industrial action?
97% of half the NJS pilots voted for industrial action...
is that correct?
and, if so, does that mean that the other half (50%) will continue working?...
as what?...scabs, or simply not involved?
Someone like to enlighten me about this new form of industrial action?
Nunc est bibendum
One of our guys posted this on Qrewroom. I don't know his background or how accurate the information is. I put it here to provide context and that's it.
Amos, if a crew isn't legally allowed to go on strike then I'm not going to label them a scab if they choose to work. They can be held personally liable for any illegal industrial action. Besides, even with half the crews working it'll still leave NJS in a bind.
Protected industrial action can’t be taken “as they desire, at a time of their choosing”. At least 3 days written notice must be given to the employer stating the starting date and the nature of the intended action. – s441 WRA. This has to be quite specific. A list of possible types of action to be taken some time in the future is unlikely to be specific enough. – Telstra v CPSU case.
There are more potential problems if there are unprotected persons (non-employees or their representatives basically) involved in the action, if the action is in support of prohibited content (doesn’t take much to trigger this one!) or if any orders or directions of the AIRC are not complied with.
It’s basically a very big exercise in dotting “i”s and crossing “t”s. Effective and competent representation is essential. The TWU should be right on top of all of this. It’s a good demonstration of the vital role that unions have to play especially now with the massive imbalance that exists between employers and employees under the current IR laws.
It’s also worth noting that under s507 of the WRA it is illegal for an employer to pay an employee who is undertaking any sort of industrial action AND it’s also illegal for an employee to accept payment from an employer. So for example – if they require you to wear a uniform and you don’t – it doesn’t matter that you’ve still gone to work and done all the things required of you – it’s illegal for them to pay you or for you to accept payment!
There are more potential problems if there are unprotected persons (non-employees or their representatives basically) involved in the action, if the action is in support of prohibited content (doesn’t take much to trigger this one!) or if any orders or directions of the AIRC are not complied with.
It’s basically a very big exercise in dotting “i”s and crossing “t”s. Effective and competent representation is essential. The TWU should be right on top of all of this. It’s a good demonstration of the vital role that unions have to play especially now with the massive imbalance that exists between employers and employees under the current IR laws.
It’s also worth noting that under s507 of the WRA it is illegal for an employer to pay an employee who is undertaking any sort of industrial action AND it’s also illegal for an employee to accept payment from an employer. So for example – if they require you to wear a uniform and you don’t – it doesn’t matter that you’ve still gone to work and done all the things required of you – it’s illegal for them to pay you or for you to accept payment!
1/2 NJS Pilots are on expired AWA's the other half are on current AWA's.
The Vic nurses are on EBA's I believe, they all expired at the same time. diiferent story. Work No Choices at its best.
The Vic nurses are on EBA's I believe, they all expired at the same time. diiferent story. Work No Choices at its best.
Bottums Up
Amos,
Under work [no]choices, only persons on an expired AWA can apply to take PIA. In this case only TWU members on expired AWAare eligible to vote for, and take PIA. That's the law that so many voted for 3+ years ago.
Under work [no]choices, only persons on an expired AWA can apply to take PIA. In this case only TWU members on expired AWAare eligible to vote for, and take PIA. That's the law that so many voted for 3+ years ago.