REX advertising O/S

[gas-chamber]

Rex would not really expect applications from experienced drivers, surely? Anyone in Europe with 1500 hours total and 500 hours on turboprops would expect a direct entry command. By our standards that does not seem very much experience, but over there it is considered OK for left seat of a commuter turbo-prop.
Could the Rex check department cope with that concept?

[boofta]

Surveillance,Rex,Eastern, all clutching at straws. How to continue paying
****e to pilots. Try recruiting overseas,try dropping the minimums, try every
low trick they can think of!
Its not going to work, you morons are all going to have to pay!!!
You want people to work in places like Broome, try a fly in fly out contract.
It works for the mining industry, 120,000 for truck drivers,fly in fly out.
All the clever HR managers will have to explain the eventual leap in pilot
salaries, after all they created it.
The reason you can't get pilots is you have screwed them so much that
the youngin's don't want to fly under your current conditions.
It's called supply and demand, you may have missed the lectures during
your MBA courses. Wankers.

[404 Titan]

The add in question isn’t asking for foreign pilots to apply, it is asking for “pilots with a right to work in Australia” to apply. As the job of pilot isn’t on the immigration list as a job that is in short supply of suitable applicants the only people who can apply are Australian citizens, Australian permanent resident Visa holders, i.e. through marriage or previous work in Australia and Kiwi’s. At the end of the day expats will only come home and work for Rex if the conditions are competitive to what they are on now or could possibly get in the current environment. I strongly doubt many will bight.

Regional Express
SAAB 340 PILOTS
AUSTRALIA
ON APPLICATION

• Civilian licensed pilots able to convert to Australian Commercial or Air Transport Pilot License.
• Command Multi Engine Instrument Rating;
• Able to obtain Civil Aviation Safety Authority Class 1 Medical Certificate;
• Minimum of 800 hours total flight time;
• Minimum of 350 hours command or ICUS flight time on multi-engine aircraft under the I.F.R;
• Able to obtain right to work in Australia. For further information visit www.rex.com.au or email [email protected]

[neville_nobody]

Just goes to show what a crock Minimum experience really is. 12 months ago Rex would have been getting on the "ICUS isn't command" bandwagon now they are advertising for it!

[fender]

There are Selfish greedy pigs and then there are pilots.

[bizzybody]

i thnk i am about to get a PPRUN bashing but
Regional Express
SAAB 340 PILOTS
AUSTRALIA
ON APPLICATION

• Civilian licensed pilots able to convert to Australian Commercial or Air Transport Pilot License.
• Command Multi Engine Instrument Rating;
• Able to obtain Civil Aviation Safety Authority Class 1 Medical Certificate;
• Minimum of 800 hours total flight time;
• Minimum of 350 hours command or ICUS flight time on multi-engine aircraft under the I.F.R;
• Able to obtain right to work in Australia. For further information visit www.rex.com.au or email

This doesnt seem too hard to achieve.... if they are paying 45k pa for someone with only these mins then i think they will have a great chance to fill the position with aussie pilots...

you people having a bitch about their pay conditions.... dont work for em... simple. If you think you are worth more than 45k pa then look for a higher paying job...

someone with these hours are people that have been instructing or in a smaller charter company that will love 45k per year to drive a SAAB.


You people that are bitching about the conditions and pay at REX how many hours do you have? more..... less....... what are you conditions like at the moment.... do you have a job..... or are you waiting for the bus to arrive.....

Not saying you are but there are people here that are still waiting for the bus to arrive.

[Under Dog]

"Bizzybody"
Thats fine buddy but try living in a major city on 45k with a family .(try Sydney for example)
Economically it does not add up regardless how much you love aviation.
There are plenty of pilots out there that would love to fly for REX but just couldn't afford to.


Regards The Dog

[ACMS]

I have a good friend that has about 1000 hrs with 400 to 500 multi. he would LOVE to join Rex. But he is currently earning 70k working in another industry. With a young family why the hell would he want to get paid 45k for the opportunity to fly a SAAB340B.
So he wont be taking up his dream to work for an airline. He can't afford to.


And I'll bet he is not alone.

45K to fly a SAAB????????? you must be kidding Rex.

[Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower]

Haughtney1,

I think you'll find that companies can only import workers with DIMMA's approval, for this to happen the company has to prove there are no ozzies that can do the job.

That is relatively difficult, it is pretty much the same worldwide, you can only import workers when there are no locals qualified, which there may infact be in this case.

[KRUSTY 34]

Rex Management are hoping like hell that this situation will "correct" itself sooner rather than later. Unfortunately for them I think it will be a long time coming.

In the meantime, they will be parking airframes, destroying their plans for expansion and cancelling services. All because of a philosophical and almost manic resistance to even consider improving the T&C's of their most valuble resource.

Bizzybody is right. If you don't like the cr@p money, don't take the job. If you are disillusioned working for REX, move on, there are lots of greener pastures out there.

As there is no real prospect of replacing many of them, management will suddenly sit up one morning and say "what the f#@k happened!

Defies logic!

[Metro36]

Been with Rex/Kendell 7 years

REX
They pay very well...! ($82,000 to fly a 34 seater Saab)
I can quite easily live on that out of Adelaide (double the average earnings)
If you can't accept the fact that just because you have a PASSION for aviation then it's your birth right to earn big dosh, then Rex and most of Oz Av companies these days will fob you.
Life does not revolve around a "pilot".
We go to work because we enjoy the fact that we are operating aeroplanes.
Some Jet, some Turboprop, some C210.
How many of you have engineering degrees?
Rex needs to to look further (abroard) because it can't sit still with almost 10-20 pilots handing in resignations/mth.
Rex is a wonderful company to work for...
Ben

[bizzybody]

Bravo!!!!

very well said Metro!!!!!!!


Bizz

[galdian]

Gee Whiz
Assuming it's true I didn't see the quoted resignation rate of 10-20 per month anywhere in their ads.
Might encourage anyone with half a brain (or more) to ask WHY do so many leave??

Nice post Metro 36 - eventually the moderators will get up a "tongue in cheek" smilie up and running so any subtelty of posts can be clarified, for the time being..
(or is "tongue in cheek" too regional for Pprune?? just asking.)

[Aussie]

Where are these 10-20 rex pilots going to? QF, VB, J*?????? Or O/S?

[airamerica]

What a useless topic.

Most of you guys need to wake up to the fact that there are as many aussies working abroad,flying mr ''Mohamed's'', ''Chan's''or ''Nigel's'' around the world,so tone down the Xenophobic outlook and get out a bit more.

Thanks to TITAN404 for pointing out the obvious,because had the topic starter read the add properly,then he wouldn't have started the topic in the first place.

Right to be in Aus is a prerequisite.............

[KRUSTY 34]

Metro36,

Not quite sure how to take your post?

galdian I believe is alluding that you are taking the p$ss! But I'm not so sure. If your post is being subtle, then it may be a tad too much.

If you are fairdinkum, then I really can't believe what I'm hearing. I've been with said company a lot longer than your 2 or 3 year stint previously with Kendell, and I can tell you now, I have never seen anything as bad as this.

Untill recently, the increase in salary for a regional F/O moving on to the lowest paying Jet airline job was around 60%. Now as the larger carriers start scambling for the few remaining "suitable" candidates, the increase is nearing 100%! If REX does not move quickly to redress this balance they will be scr#wed.

It won't be such a great place to work when you are demoted back to F/O as the cutback in services start to bite. And don't think it can't happen, I've seen it before.

Life does not revolve around a "pilot". The ability to provide a reliable and safe airservice however does.

It's people like you who undervalue our profession that has led in part to the crisis that we now face.

After more than 22 years in this business, I still have as much passion and love for the job as when when I first started. But when we see professional aircrew earning less than street sweepers (and yes I have swept streets in the past), then a reduction in safety and reliability can only follow.

If your post is tongue in cheek, please accept my appologies.

[jarjar]

You guys should try living in perth, 60,000 is the average wage, average house price 530,000, Skilled labourers, sparky's, plumbers etc all in high demand charging accordingly. Most of them wont get out of bed for less than $500 a day. What I think alot of posters are getting at is the fact that pilots are now becoming in high demand, why then are we not holding out to push up our worth.
People will come back with the old " I love flying, I can accept 45,000 a year" , this guys and gals is not a job its a hobby.
My brother loves his job, hes an electrician, doesnt stop him charging $750 a day.

JarJar

[KRUSTY 34]

Thanks jarjar,

my point exactly

[ACMS]

keep racing to the bottom boys.

geez you sell yourselves short.

I know I know, we love our hobby ( job ) and don't really need money, just give me a shiney new Jet and I'll fly it for lunch money ( McDonalds )

[The Kavorka]

Metro36

I totally disagree with you.....$86000 for a Captain is a disgrace..

I take you have worked your ass off like many others to get to the left hand seat, and these scum bags pay you this rubbish.

I have worked for REX and couldn't wait to get out...My debt level was raising working for them....and the conditions, well we all know about that..

REX continue to post record profits and do nothing to retain there crew numbers, natural attrition, I think not..


Metro36, I suggest you do your very best to get out of this two bit operation before you no longer have a job to go to...They are screwed my friend, I know of at least 40+ people leaving before the end of the year and I doubt they will be able to replace them...and VB/JQ/QF/TGR are only just starting there massive recruiting drives!!!

R.I.P REX......................................................:ok :