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soory mahtma too busy this month with doctors appointments, beers before ten,and wifey with the painters and dockers,plus a little too cold for a cold blooded northernor.enjoy the tirade but as others have posted,beware the battles you pick and the holes we dig.i agree that the new exec has served well so far and have been diligent with replies and info,just hope that big heads they dont get and believe they can win all.
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Hopefully our Executive don't go into battle with such a defeatist attitude.
I also say 'forward march'.
just hope that big heads they dont get and believe they can win all
I also say 'forward march'.
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The best thing the Asn have done here is getting us all in the same boat rowing the same direction and I have not seen any signs of them rolling over.
forward march and don't look back!
forward march and don't look back!
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its not a defeatist attitude,just pick the battles you can win and walk on the ones you cant.why waste members money on storm in tea cup disputes when for so long everyone has sold out,due to poor representation.
wars have been won and lost by not knowing when to retreat and regroup
at least this exec is asking for direction from the members instead of just making decisions on our behalf
its not a defeatist attitude,just pick the battles you can win and walk on the ones you cant.why waste members money on storm in tea cup disputes when for so long everyone has sold out,due to poor representation.
wars have been won and lost by not knowing when to retreat and regroup
at least this exec is asking for direction from the members instead of just making decisions on our behalf
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All Murray wants is Base Maintenance set up in Melbourne, and the Terminal group operating out of Charlie finger - T1, the middle finger down here.
Makes sense doesn't it????
How can anyone argue with that?????
Qantas doesn't want 8 hour shift for anyone - least of all terminal engineers, but management has been forced into a corner, They can't be seen to have lost the argument - therefore the 8 Hour shift.
Tony has said many times that a 9.5 hr shift is the best shift time for Terminal work.....
The real fight will come when two thirds of Domestic Melbourne are sent to the Hangars permanently on a Night weighted Base Maintenance shift.
Don't think it won't happen,
Domestic Melbourne engineers have done well for the last 15 odd years slinging **** over the fence to their international brothers,
Where will they throw it when we are gone?????
How will they come up smelling like roses when they have to live in their own sh?t?????
I guess there will be the same old people crawling into the managers office offering to sit under his desk and perform their ususal tricks.....
And on that matter, how about the recent promotions...could you have chosen a more "Yes" man group of people???
Just don't mention personal interaction skills, time in job, attitude, technical skill, managerial skill or how about this....suitability??????
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The fight at the moment is really a losing battle. We are fractured, have very little solidarity, within and without the department.
We are going to lose it because of the attrition happening with redundancies and Scabs doing higher duties and overtime.
Make no mistake, International is in the last convulsions before death and obscurity.
The meeting last week was a fraud, railroaded to let the people that are "hurting" do the O.T.
although....what sort of hurting could it be???? we get almost the same shift penalties as on the 9.5?????
Maybe they're living beyond their means.....
Short sighted F#ckwits.
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The 9.5 hour shift we worked was the most flexible shift i have ever worked, for the company's sake and also for the workers,
Multiple start times matched to aircraft movements, callins and staybacks to cover late or early aircraft.
Shiftswaps, give and take with management and workers, wage averaging, 3 days off per week.
It was a panacea for Qantas and Employees alike.
Bring on the redundancies.
Comments anyone?
Makes sense doesn't it????
How can anyone argue with that?????
Qantas doesn't want 8 hour shift for anyone - least of all terminal engineers, but management has been forced into a corner, They can't be seen to have lost the argument - therefore the 8 Hour shift.
Tony has said many times that a 9.5 hr shift is the best shift time for Terminal work.....
The real fight will come when two thirds of Domestic Melbourne are sent to the Hangars permanently on a Night weighted Base Maintenance shift.
Don't think it won't happen,
Domestic Melbourne engineers have done well for the last 15 odd years slinging **** over the fence to their international brothers,
Where will they throw it when we are gone?????
How will they come up smelling like roses when they have to live in their own sh?t?????
I guess there will be the same old people crawling into the managers office offering to sit under his desk and perform their ususal tricks.....
And on that matter, how about the recent promotions...could you have chosen a more "Yes" man group of people???
Just don't mention personal interaction skills, time in job, attitude, technical skill, managerial skill or how about this....suitability??????
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The fight at the moment is really a losing battle. We are fractured, have very little solidarity, within and without the department.
We are going to lose it because of the attrition happening with redundancies and Scabs doing higher duties and overtime.
Make no mistake, International is in the last convulsions before death and obscurity.
The meeting last week was a fraud, railroaded to let the people that are "hurting" do the O.T.
although....what sort of hurting could it be???? we get almost the same shift penalties as on the 9.5?????
Maybe they're living beyond their means.....
Short sighted F#ckwits.
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The 9.5 hour shift we worked was the most flexible shift i have ever worked, for the company's sake and also for the workers,
Multiple start times matched to aircraft movements, callins and staybacks to cover late or early aircraft.
Shiftswaps, give and take with management and workers, wage averaging, 3 days off per week.
It was a panacea for Qantas and Employees alike.
Bring on the redundancies.
Comments anyone?
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let's face the facts:
1. MIT will not exist inside of 6 months
2. Base Maintenance will be alive and well
3. Lameless tarmac will be here also
4. Lame/ame ratio increased
The newly appointed 'yes' men will make sure of it. Some of those have been s*abs in recent disputes. Coincidence? I doubt it?
Good luck to all as we flat spin out of control.
What future is there? Perhaps John Holland has the answers.
I just hope the weak amongst us don't trade off our redundancy entitlements for a measly increase before we get the bullet.
1. MIT will not exist inside of 6 months
2. Base Maintenance will be alive and well
3. Lameless tarmac will be here also
4. Lame/ame ratio increased
The newly appointed 'yes' men will make sure of it. Some of those have been s*abs in recent disputes. Coincidence? I doubt it?
Good luck to all as we flat spin out of control.
What future is there? Perhaps John Holland has the answers.
I just hope the weak amongst us don't trade off our redundancy entitlements for a measly increase before we get the bullet.
