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The Mr Fixit 28th Jun 2007 02:43

MIT Engineering 8Hr Roster
 
Worth a thread I'll say my southern brothers tell me the **** has hit the fan :*

Leave that has already been approved has been cancelled :mad:

I was stunned thats fkn illegal isn't if not it's definitely immoral but you are working at QF and giving your word about things means little there. :yuk:

one perhaps two guys per crew get leave, no shift swaps with applicable licences.

They sent B738, A330 and B767 freighter to Domestic it's a pity that they can't boycott it but the workplace laws would crucify our union which is trying to get ALL OF US to think as a collective not as mercenaries sorry i meant LAMEs

The big one that p!sses me right off is that the manager has held future training over the guys heads, apparently he'll send the B777 and the A320 training to domestic to reward them for their treachery.

For the base that seems to have the most pull union wise you've dropped the Sherrin Melbourne are you really what we despise the most, simply self serving company pr!cks.

Come on guys show some of the resilience that deposed Mr Potato Head

domo 28th Jun 2007 05:14

can anyone give me a heads up.
Im not fully aware of the whats going on
something about a 8 hour roster and 47 vr's?

PitPin 28th Jun 2007 09:38

They had their chance !
 
One thing you forgot to mention about the MIT Lames is that they had the chance to continue on the same roster but they voted to be tough guys and hoped the merger would go away !:rolleyes:

The Mr Fixit 29th Jun 2007 01:56

Stand firm guys I know the SC@BS from Sydney base are fkn with yas I wish they could suffer the reverse how quickly would their tune change.

To the SC@BS from Sydney your names have been posted for all to see, let's see you escape your brothers ire you need a good old fashioned reality check.

chemical alli 29th Jun 2007 08:46

name and shame ,where exactly is this scab list you speak of ? or is it only wishful thinking ?

The Mr Fixit 29th Jun 2007 09:05

I'm told The Voice has it all in hand :E

acslame 29th Jun 2007 10:00

Boys , get your acts together.
It doesn't matter where you work one thing is for sure
M and his band of merry men are coming for you.
Be under no illusions to the contrary

If you start fighting amungst yourselves its all over.
The tactic is divide and conquer.
They will play domestic against international, base against base.
They will promise training and senior LAME positions.
Bottom line is that you guys in MEL had better bury the
hatchett and get some sort of common position because if you don't
then you will be easy pickings.
you need to back each other in this.

One thing you can count on, no one from per will
come over . You have our full suport.
STAND YOUR GROUND!!!!

wingers 29th Jun 2007 13:39

Dont understand
 
as a young guy wanting to get go foward i cannot understant the anger and vitriol that you guys spread, am not sure but you guys are old relics, and have you noticed that there are only 4/5 of you posting, wake up or retire so us young guys can move foward with normal modern day work practices

The Mr Fixit 29th Jun 2007 14:15

Wingers should read W@nker :}

Maybe a DMM position for you sniveling little pr!cks are high on their list

As for the guys on shift bury the hatchet in .............

Angle of Attack 29th Jun 2007 16:20


as a young guy wanting to get go foward i cannot understant the anger and vitriol that you guys spread, am not sure but you guys are old relics, and have you noticed that there are only 4/5 of you posting, wake up or retire so us young guys can move foward with normal modern day work practices
Funniest thing I have read for ages, For one thing your not young, and second your a stupid middle manager wearing a suite which makes you think your special, and thats it!! Lol nice try! No way get stuck in full and hard, if no one keeps the planes running then the whole company stops, shove it into these idiotic suits heads. Go boys!

BTW Modern day work practises mean disaster!!! AWA in a recession means working for less than the dole.

chemical alli 30th Jun 2007 01:40

i cant understand the hate and vitrol from mit and per,so what if the so called syd scabs fly to these ports and work the line.does it not stand to reason that the management have to explain costs incured due j class flights,allowances o/night accom and so forth,remember it takes so much time to actually access the ramp these days in any port ,with ohs and inductions.time is money and sooner or later higher up the ladder will be asking questions.

acslame 1st Jul 2007 04:27

the only thing management understands. is delays.
they can fiddle the books to their hearts content to
hide costs.
Having to Explain to other managers in differant departments
why there aircraft are delayed, for whatever reason, is the only way
to get to these people.
you need to bring the pressure down on them from above.
REMEMBER
QANTAS MANAGEMENT ARE LIARS
Its all about their wallets come bonus time

mahatmacoat 2nd Jul 2007 08:56

Ali and you other Syd sc@bs pi$$ 0ff and keep your nose out of our business. How dare you assume from your little jolly trips that you know better than the Perth and Mel guys in the middle of the action. The ones in the firing line have decided no o/t or higher duties to get the licence coverage up the sh!t so planes don't fly.

The last thing we need is some sc@b coming in thinking they can justify their a$$ licking by saying they will make the operation more expensive. The lames in Per Mel are not going that way so f off and leave us alone. M is hiding the expenses anyway.

mahatmacoat 2nd Jul 2007 22:55

I expected better from you mendaero. The guys in Perth who are in the firing line and now Melbourne have decided on a course of action and that is to not work overtime so the 8 hour rosters fall apart when aircraft aren't covered. Individuals from Sydney or wherever else are flying here on overtime in a move that completely negates the effect of what the locals are doing. Don't be ignorant about the whole affair or try and blame the union.

We all know that the alaea can't put an official ban on or tell their members not to travel so what do you expect when you call them. I was asked to go to Pert 3 months ago and rang the asn and got told the following -

"I can't tell you not to go but read the notice we put out. If you do go get your own smoko room because the Perth staff won't eat with you"

The message doesn't get any clearer than that and again if you think you know better than the MIT lames who have voted unanimously for ot bans make sure you wear someone elses name tag when you get here.

mahatmacoat 2nd Jul 2007 23:11

And just one other thing.

Sydney have never supported Melbourne for transit work on Atlas its just that management forgot to roster staff on for the times it has been coming in. Sydney traditionally supporting outstations is no excuse for $cabs.

The Mr Fixit 3rd Jul 2007 01:36

OMFG Mendaero are you as spineless as you sound, you want the union to give you guidance for unofficial action and secondary boycotts the eighties are two decades ago.:confused:

LET YOUR CONSCIENCE BE YOUR GUIDE :eek:

Coming into to someone else's backyard like it's your own, you and Chem Ali are @-holes, I hope the tables turn on YOU when the Sydney Precinct review comes out :E

company_spy 3rd Jul 2007 05:15

All ALAEA members should make themselves familiar with the latest notice re: MEL. which can be viewed on the assn. web site.

mahatmacoat 4th Jul 2007 04:42

Thanks to the union for the notice i think it spells it out in no uncertain terms that Mel is a no go zone. Also like to thank the 20 or so lames today who have said no after the notice come out and to explain further -

Qf 30 from London is off schedule landing 0030 departs 0230. The new roster has staff all finishing at 0130 and nobody to depart the aircraft. God help any d!ckh who ignores the asn notice.

Torqueman 5th Jul 2007 03:30

Well I don't think the notice will make much difference to the forstaff contractors who would go anyway. They continue to work for an employer who treats the with disdain. They are represented by a union who treats them as lepers. When they work with Qantas staff they are treated with contempt. :ugh:

So the notice said in essence that if they go up they would feel isolated.

Funny.... I'm sure they'll feel right at home. :}

You guys better start working on building the relationship with them. They work for the same company as you. It might be in your future interest to have them on side. At the minute they have nothing to lose. The unions have failed to represent them. The company can pretty much tell them where to go and they have to go. The union's lack of representation down there has given forstaff and Qantas management a free run down there.

When it happens. Which I hope it doesn't. Don't blame them. They don't have a choice. Blame the union for knee capping them. :mad:

chemical alli 5th Jul 2007 05:11

mahatmagoose
 
have a rite old whinge you legacy individual.previous posts you stated that the union cant put out an official letter & now they have ! exactly what is it mit wants ,you whinge about redundancies and get them ,you whinge about licence training and get it , the so called scabs you refer to rang the association and were told of no problem.but hey now a official notice is put out exactly how many of these so called scabs have travelled to mit ? so far i dont see the alaea printed on my pay slip,only in the deduction column,
please explain how you can realistically put the isues in per and mit on equal level,as you dont even have the support of your domestic brothers.


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