500 S/O's!!!!!!!!!
and you'll only have to wait 10 years to do a take off or landing...
Ten is a bit extreme, but if you really need a window seat and can't enjoy the whole ride, then this is not the job for you
The endorsement paid for by QF, higher salary, better long term options for career and choice of aircraft types, better terms & conditions etc might cause some to withdraw their applications to the LCC's.
If you went to Jetstar you may get paid less initially however you will be a captain alot quicker.
As for Virgin well I think financially if you started at the same time I reckon it may be a better deal overall.
Yes Nev. Spot on. Everyone out there considering the options of who is best should really think long and hard about who may provide the best financial position and also career satisfaction.
As for QF, you will rot away as an SO for more than half a decade and in that time you may find yourself on the wrong fleets at the wrong time which means endless blank/reserve lines where you cannot plan anything. There is no career guidance as such, just have your letter of preference in and wait for the taining merry goround to start up. Perhaps you will or wont get an upgrade. (Just like waiting for the sat lotto numbers!) Not that I'm complaining, but particularly now with various options available out there, it is a point worth considering.
Time to command is important as well, because the numbers being thrown around for the complete package at vb and jet* are worthy of thought. In the overall scheme of things you may be better off in the other organisations where commands are alot quicker and financially over time there will be more coin in your piggy bank.
As for QF, you will rot away as an SO for more than half a decade and in that time you may find yourself on the wrong fleets at the wrong time which means endless blank/reserve lines where you cannot plan anything. There is no career guidance as such, just have your letter of preference in and wait for the taining merry goround to start up. Perhaps you will or wont get an upgrade. (Just like waiting for the sat lotto numbers!) Not that I'm complaining, but particularly now with various options available out there, it is a point worth considering.
Time to command is important as well, because the numbers being thrown around for the complete package at vb and jet* are worthy of thought. In the overall scheme of things you may be better off in the other organisations where commands are alot quicker and financially over time there will be more coin in your piggy bank.
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It's amazing how management simply stating something like '500 s/o's to be recruited' gets us all positive and excited. I wouldn't believe it though. QF management struggles to work out whats going to happen in the the next bid period, let alone the next year. I would suggest that anyone weighing up employment options exclude projections like this from their considerations. 
you will rot away as an SO for more than half a decade
If pilots reject working for Jetstar Intl, then there would probably be even more aircraft flown by pilots that are on reasonable salaries and T & C's. The management would not allow J* aircraft to sit on the ground for lack of pilots.
if you think you will ever see a 787 in the rat livery think again, they may have orders, but lets just say they will have orange stars on the tail
Where are all these ready made pilots going to materialise from?
and QANTAS Pilot Training School, ie in house cadet training.
VB have the opportunity of a lifetime here. Encompass all the growth within their own group now!!!!!
That includes embraer, 777 and whatever else that may well be. A career path that would easily surpass what's on offer at QF.
That includes embraer, 777 and whatever else that may well be. A career path that would easily surpass what's on offer at QF.
you will rot away as an SO for more than half a decade
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You can always look at it as the longest, best paid holiday you'll ever have and you'll always be getting closer to bigger and better things. You say potato...
I have to pay that
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you will rot away as an SO for more than half a decade
I'd hardly call being an SO rotting away.
Yeah righto pod. Considering more than 50% of so's on the 400 have now been there for more than half a decade, my initial point remains. Prospective pilots please consider!
As for this training tidal wave, yes perhaps it will happen, although the numbers are very close to those first mentioned by the king when he came to power.
Plenty still waiting for the upgrade wave to come along.
And of course zero info from any managers to any pilot as to when it all may be. (Mental note: must remember to check fall back plan tonight around 8.30!)
As for this training tidal wave, yes perhaps it will happen, although the numbers are very close to those first mentioned by the king when he came to power.
Plenty still waiting for the upgrade wave to come along.
And of course zero info from any managers to any pilot as to when it all may be. (Mental note: must remember to check fall back plan tonight around 8.30!)
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Hey mate,
wagenet.gov is ur best bet,
find it out down to the cent...
ull find its paid by the hour, so its varied a little, but 1000 hours a year is a pretty good figure to start with (i think !!)
whaet
wagenet.gov is ur best bet,
find it out down to the cent...
ull find its paid by the hour, so its varied a little, but 1000 hours a year is a pretty good figure to start with
(i think !!)whaet
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ftrplt any S/O on the 400 who has been there for more than 5 years is still there by choice
Alameda- money shouldn't be a consideration.. the QF selectors can see straight through you at the interview..
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Don't think so.. Current mainline F/O slot is running at 7 years.. That's a FACT!
Been in the company less than 8 years, been an F/O about 4 years. Plenty of guys junior to me around as well......