Merged: QF 777s and other rumours
It appears QF will be keeping the ex BA 767s for quite a while yet - at least 2011 I think - they will probably be the last 767s that QF operate, with plans to dispose of the original QF 767s before then.
Then again, that may change, after all this is an outfit that still operates 743s!
Then again, that may change, after all this is an outfit that still operates 743s!
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BA 767's
The 'gos late last year was that the lease was renewed to 2012.
The majority of 76 flying now seems to be domestic - obviously that will have to be covered off before they go. My guess is that they will be around for sometime yet.
The majority of 76 flying now seems to be domestic - obviously that will have to be covered off before they go. My guess is that they will be around for sometime yet.
It appears QF will be keeping the ex BA 767s for quite a while yet - at least 2011 I think - they will probably be the last 767s that QF operate, with plans to dispose of the original QF 767s before then.
Back to the original thread - It was reported on Qrewroom that Peter Gregg at one of the recent Roadshows stated that they were currently looking at both B777's and A350XWB for delivery from 2012 onwards. Apparently, there was nothing mentioned about early deliveries of the Tripler.
Boeing are still working on the B777-200ELR for QF. The latest initiave to reduce weight is the elimination of the window shade.
Since Virgin Atlantic announced their plan to operate LHR-PER-LHR nonstop QF has realised nonstops to LHR are the only weapon to fight the M.E carriers with.
Like it or hate it nonstops to Europe are coming.
Since Virgin Atlantic announced their plan to operate LHR-PER-LHR nonstop QF has realised nonstops to LHR are the only weapon to fight the M.E carriers with.
Like it or hate it nonstops to Europe are coming.
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Can't for the life of me wonder why???
Surely its worlds best airline practice to employ HUNDREDS of culturally sensitive language speakers [many of whom are native] and send them NOWHERE NEAR the destination they were ORIGINALLY employed to service.................
Surely its worlds best airline practice to employ HUNDREDS of culturally sensitive language speakers [many of whom are native] and send them NOWHERE NEAR the destination they were ORIGINALLY employed to service.................
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So Keg,are you the Australian rep for Boeing,or are you getting a cut is a sale does ever happen?What is your percentage?
Or is this a case of if you start a good enough rumour,it will come true?
Or is this a case of if you start a good enough rumour,it will come true?
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Bug-a-lugs, it's more a case of "if you say it often enough eventually it'll be true". 
Another part of the rumour passed onto me in the last day or so suggest that various management personnel (including the training department) have just returned from Seattle in very recent times. I'm not sure if QF have sold the rights to the 777 sim they had on order a couple of years back or not. (Apparently getting a sim is a longer lead in then getting an airframe and so QF had an order in for a 777 a few years ago!
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I wish I had a percentage....I'd go for 50% of whatever the CEO is on!
Another part of the rumour passed onto me in the last day or so suggest that various management personnel (including the training department) have just returned from Seattle in very recent times. I'm not sure if QF have sold the rights to the 777 sim they had on order a couple of years back or not. (Apparently getting a sim is a longer lead in then getting an airframe and so QF had an order in for a 777 a few years ago!
)I wish I had a percentage....I'd go for 50% of whatever the CEO is on!
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One of the reasons QF always complains about not making money on routes that they only have rights to for 3-4 (CDG, ROM etc) times a week, is that a B744 is not economical.
Other airlines in Asia which also have access 3-4 times a week to these destinations, mainly use the B777 on these routes. These airlines are either bleeding cash, or because of the equipment they use it makes it economical for them.
I think the decision to not get the 777 for this type of thing has been a mistake on management's behalf for quite a while now. Instead they have shrunk QF and because they have been out of some markets for many years now, it may be hard to build that up again.
Other airlines in Asia which also have access 3-4 times a week to these destinations, mainly use the B777 on these routes. These airlines are either bleeding cash, or because of the equipment they use it makes it economical for them.
I think the decision to not get the 777 for this type of thing has been a mistake on management's behalf for quite a while now. Instead they have shrunk QF and because they have been out of some markets for many years now, it may be hard to build that up again.
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I thought QF and AF are pleased with the joint operation between France and Oz, through SIN, so much so that they have added HKG as a transfer point. This is much better than both airlines flying between France and Australia two or three times a week.
The same way of operating could be used for QF Italy services. Alitalia has a nice fleet of 777s, and they could connect onto the QF network at BKK, SIN or HKG. But, Alitalia gave up flying to Asia years ago.
I cannot see that a Jetstar operation would be the answer, because surely an operation to Italy or Greece would want to fly through SIN to allow connections from PER/BNE/ADL. If Jetstar operated it, they would still need QF flight numbers to allow the connections, and you would have the confusions as to which people have to pay cash for their meals and entertainment.
The new QF A330-200s would be a nice way to travel to Europe, though.
The same way of operating could be used for QF Italy services. Alitalia has a nice fleet of 777s, and they could connect onto the QF network at BKK, SIN or HKG. But, Alitalia gave up flying to Asia years ago.
I cannot see that a Jetstar operation would be the answer, because surely an operation to Italy or Greece would want to fly through SIN to allow connections from PER/BNE/ADL. If Jetstar operated it, they would still need QF flight numbers to allow the connections, and you would have the confusions as to which people have to pay cash for their meals and entertainment.
The new QF A330-200s would be a nice way to travel to Europe, though.
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That's why QF already code share with CX to Rome through Hong Kong.
The same way of operating could be used for QF Italy services. Alitalia has a nice fleet of 777s, and they could connect onto the QF network at BKK, SIN or HKG. But, Alitalia gave up flying to Asia years ago.
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Yeah, but you might as well do the whole trip on CX and get 'the best Chinese food in the air'. You get QF FF points on CX. Putting QF passengers onto a major competitor seems like a very strange way of doing business.