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Heard from flight ops briefing that the first two courses are 330, as new frames turning up later in the year. Also heard the first course is August, and that some people have already been called giving them a start date.
-400 courses later in the year.
As for numbers well it varies from 35 a year to 100 a year, depending on who you talk to, for the next 3 years.
good luck
-400 courses later in the year.
As for numbers well it varies from 35 a year to 100 a year, depending on who you talk to, for the next 3 years.
good luck
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Depends on how many leave. The trickle of resignations may become a flood later this year.
Don't forget there are still too many pilots on some types and ranks, so this will possibly be absorbed first. However, it is likely the 330 will need S/O's soon, the 380 obviously, and the 400 depends on how many S/O's become first officers.
There will be recruitment later this year, how much is anybodies guess at the moment. Flight Ops don't really know either.
Don't forget there are still too many pilots on some types and ranks, so this will possibly be absorbed first. However, it is likely the 330 will need S/O's soon, the 380 obviously, and the 400 depends on how many S/O's become first officers.
There will be recruitment later this year, how much is anybodies guess at the moment. Flight Ops don't really know either.
Looks like they are hedging their bets a bit but getting people to do x-rays, criminal checks etc has to be a positive thing.
Flight Ops have absolutely no idea how many guys are going to be retiring in the next year or so (does anyone really know?), so I guess they're just getting as many people as possible on the hold file ready to go should the need arise.
The -400 could do with a few more S/Os as it stands already, people paxing around all over the place due flight time limitations.
Flight Ops have absolutely no idea how many guys are going to be retiring in the next year or so (does anyone really know?), so I guess they're just getting as many people as possible on the hold file ready to go should the need arise.
The -400 could do with a few more S/Os as it stands already, people paxing around all over the place due flight time limitations.
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There are a few early to mid 50 something year old Captains also looking for a bit of fun and excitement over the next few years given the absolute rock bottom morale being experienced in this company. Something a bit more positive, some exciting destinations and less crap being the big incentives. Plenty of contracts starting to become available in some interesting places.
You may as well enjoy the last 5 years of your career.
Most of us don't acutally enjoy Qantas anymore.
May be a shock to management when some of these start becoming reality. So far they don't believe it, but I personally know at least 10 who will be very likely candidates before the end of the year.
You may as well enjoy the last 5 years of your career.
Most of us don't acutally enjoy Qantas anymore.May be a shock to management when some of these start becoming reality. So far they don't believe it, but I personally know at least 10 who will be very likely candidates before the end of the year.
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yes letters have been sent from management to ask the elders when they are going to leave. Im guessing that not many will get sent back. I believe the flight engineers have also been asked. I suppose that many of the guys would like to see management squirm when they have a mass of retirements that where not "forecast". Maybe working for a company that does not give a sh!t about it's employee's does not appeal to our elders that should be enjoying the twilight years of what is proberly a very long career in the company...very sad it has come to this.
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Most have ticked the box on the retirement intention letter that they have no plans for retirement. Included in that are many who have every intention of leaving in the next 12 months.
Why give them anything back by being honest and loyal? What have they shown us of late? Minimum notice when it is time to walk seems to be the attitude of the majority.
Why give them anything back by being honest and loyal? What have they shown us of late? Minimum notice when it is time to walk seems to be the attitude of the majority.
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Most of, if not all Captains I have flown with are going to give minumum notice on their soon retirement. They have all laughed at the so called " Intention to resign" letters that have been sent out. This has been the biggest joke on the line the last month or so, it has just encouraged NON notification of retirements! haha There have been a few Captains saying they will advise their retirements, but I think 90% are just going to pi$$ off after their last wanted trip and the majority of senior Captains inclusing SCC are talking about it. Hey But it's still a rewarding job!! haha! Amongst shorthaul and longhaul I think in the next year realistic figures woul be minimum 50 maximum 190 retirements. The Super rules add a new dimension to this equation and this flows over the managemnt heads, because they are so busy in their office writing newsletters they have no idea about the crewing sledgehammer about to hit! Yes initial courses are A330 S/O positions but I can guarantee that a lot more will flow as Flight Ops Management, usless as always, and even more useless being shackled by beancounters are going to under-estimate crewing severely. I have leave in 6 MONTHS and I am already being asked to give it up, of course I responded, well if you reward me with another Tinny which they said NO, so I guess they cannot have me lol. Trust me things are getting tighter than the proverbial, and I believe it should be good for you guys and girls on the hold file, I really wish the best for you, Good Luck!!
And note yea Skyscanner they are short S/O on 400 and F/O for that matter but Borghetti has said until planes are parked there is no need for recruitment (from a 75% reliable source in the office) It's all about money! I guess until you realise you can't run an Airline !!
And note yea Skyscanner they are short S/O on 400 and F/O for that matter but Borghetti has said until planes are parked there is no need for recruitment (from a 75% reliable source in the office) It's all about money! I guess until you realise you can't run an Airline !!
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I believe that the blurred vision on crewing will be marginally clearer (but only marghinally) within a couple of months and that the first courses will be in July for 400.
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All gone very quiet.......I thought that somebody out there would have had a phone call by now if they were starting courses soon. I suppose the Board will have to digest the last few weeks events, but surely they will need to sort out the shortage in the numbers and start courses soon?
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Early Update Request
Have heard that a few under active consideration have received emails requesting that they update ASAP instead of waiting for their previously nominated update time. Some as early as 6 months before previously stated...
Anyone heard anything about that...?
Oh, and just for my benifit, what is the hold file? Is that where you sit when you've done all the stages of the recruitment process. I assume that Active Consideration is different...
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Anyone heard anything about that...?
Oh, and just for my benifit, what is the hold file? Is that where you sit when you've done all the stages of the recruitment process. I assume that Active Consideration is different...
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Applicants are ranked on the hold file based on how they scored during all the processing. If a new applicant scores well then he/she will move to a high ranking on the list which results earlier employment - if the first course is for 16 then the top 16 on the hold file will be offered employment.
Qantas is looking at employing a very large number over the next few years and is very concerned about where they will get them because of the pilot shortage (yes, the are aware of it) so for those on the hold file it becomes a case of "When" not "If".
Qantas is looking at employing a very large number over the next few years and is very concerned about where they will get them because of the pilot shortage (yes, the are aware of it) so for those on the hold file it becomes a case of "When" not "If".
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In a previous post, I called the active consideration file a hold file....that is the term they use in some parts of Europe. Sorry for the confusion forgetabowdit....and the late reply. And, I am still waiting for the nod from Qantas for a start date - anybody been given one yet?. I have been waiting a long time!
Jetstar has already appointed external pilots for the B787 fleet senior positions. The agreement that management signed with the JPG isn't worth the paper that it is printed on.
July's course will be for the 747-300 to increase numbers for the Hajj at the end of the year. They should check to line just as Phase 1 begins in November.
ruprecht.
ruprecht.
Just out of curiousity, if the new starts are on AWA's and they are the cadets covered by that joke of a LOA (i.e. the one giving them back-dated seniority to when they started their tough GA time), then surely the LOA doesn't apply since they won't be employed under our EBA?