Jetstar now to KL
FAX are claiming they will have fares KUL - London cheaper than the KUL-SIN fare.
BTW I hear J* are full BKK-MEL for the next month
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well, I waied back and said to her "khop khun mark khrub. khun jak pai ban phom duay, dai mai"? 
.. in all seriousness, I was surprised to see "Thai culture" on an Australian airline .. nothing wrong with that I guess, but it did take me by surprise.
.. in all seriousness, I was surprised to see "Thai culture" on an Australian airline .. nothing wrong with that I guess, but it did take me by surprise.
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Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out it is further to fly from SY-MC than CB-SY? Having said that, a quick search on Webjet shows the cheapest flight with JQ for SY-MC is $79 and QF for CB-SY around $110.
Perhaps someone thought you may need the extra exercise lugging your bags to reduce the "Russell Office spread".
By all means fly with Virgin - I'm sure the "peasants" would enjoy the reduced whine in the cabin.
Surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out it is further to fly from SY-MC than CB-SY? Having said that, a quick search on Webjet shows the cheapest flight with JQ for SY-MC is $79 and QF for CB-SY around $110.
Perhaps someone thought you may need the extra exercise lugging your bags to reduce the "Russell Office spread".
By all means fly with Virgin - I'm sure the "peasants" would enjoy the reduced whine in the cabin.
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With regards to Thai F/A's, what happens in an emergency being that their first language is Thai? I think its a big ask of the CSM, the only fluent english speaker to control the whole evacuation.
Its just my opinion but it is harder to communicate with them ie. White coffee with one.
Its just my opinion but it is harder to communicate with them ie. White coffee with one.
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With regards to Thai F/A's, what happens in an emergency being that their first language is Thai? I think its a big ask of the CSM, the only fluent english speaker to control the whole evacuation.
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Really Hot Dog,
I'm sure that is fine in your perfect worldbut in the real one that most of us live in it is a little different.
A perfect example was on a flight with a red tail when the capt rang on the interphone and asked a Thai F/A to check one of the toilets as they had message that there was smoke (it turned out that a pax was having a gasper)..When the said F/A answered he told the capt that he did not need to go to the toilet but thanks anyway.
It's fine to say culture does not matter and it's racist to suggest it but the reality is that language and culture does in fact affect operations.It's great that someone likes to be "waied" to but if the manure hits the turbine I would prefer complete fluency and understanding in communications.
Is that not one of the most basic tenents of good CRM.
I'm sure that is fine in your perfect worldbut in the real one that most of us live in it is a little different.
A perfect example was on a flight with a red tail when the capt rang on the interphone and asked a Thai F/A to check one of the toilets as they had message that there was smoke (it turned out that a pax was having a gasper)..When the said F/A answered he told the capt that he did not need to go to the toilet but thanks anyway.
It's fine to say culture does not matter and it's racist to suggest it but the reality is that language and culture does in fact affect operations.It's great that someone likes to be "waied" to but if the manure hits the turbine I would prefer complete fluency and understanding in communications.
Is that not one of the most basic tenents of good CRM.
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Reminds me of the Captain who called the upper deck 744 galley and asked to have 4 beers put on ice.
Next thing he has the Thai flight attendant on the flight deck with 4 open cans and glasses.
A great look for the upper deck passengers......
There is more to safety than "ewacuate, ewacuate, ewacuate".
Next thing he has the Thai flight attendant on the flight deck with 4 open cans and glasses.
A great look for the upper deck passengers......
There is more to safety than "ewacuate, ewacuate, ewacuate".
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Lowerlobe, in my previous life of thirty three years of aviating with Asian (including Thai) cabin crew, there was one serious accident where they proved their mettle.
Out of 127 pax, one woman died of a heart attack, the rest were evacuated and rescued without injuries. This totally unexpected accident happened without any warning or preparation. The Asian cabin crew of varying origins acted in a most professional manner. None of them could claim English to be their first language. I guess it comes down to training.
Shortly before V1, the nose gear thread separated, causing severe vibration. The crew aborted the take-off, but the CV-880 overran the runway and ended up in the sea and broke in three pieces.
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.........therefore any airline that employs cabin crew with english not being their native language is unsafe
I take it you guys wont be flying with Singapore, Thai, Cathay, Emirates, QF , British, Virging Atlantic, etc etc, any time soon.
good luck with finding an airline that only employs CC with english as their first language
I take it you guys wont be flying with Singapore, Thai, Cathay, Emirates, QF , British, Virging Atlantic, etc etc, any time soon.
good luck with finding an airline that only employs CC with english as their first language
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Hot Dog,
Training is certainly a large part of any airline ops however my point was that rather than a situation with all crew all speaking the one language (which should negate any communication problems...should) the ops with QF and J* will involve crew with different languages and cultures.There's the rub....
Training is certainly a large part of any airline ops however my point was that rather than a situation with all crew all speaking the one language (which should negate any communication problems...should) the ops with QF and J* will involve crew with different languages and cultures.There's the rub....
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Lowerlobe,
On that particular flight, the cabin crew of ten came from five different ethnic origins with five different mother tounges. Needless to say they were English speakers of a high standard, which was a pre- requisite of employment as cabin crew. I have no doubt that Jet* standards are of the same level.
The Asian cabin crew of varying origins acted in a most professional manner.
I used J*Int last week.
Could someone tell the Thai F/A's, picking their noses in the galley isn't endearing to Western passengers.
Be reminded too, the Malaysian who sells you a ticket from his call center in KL, fails to mention nothing is included ie: you buy your meals for $15AUD on credit card!
Could someone tell the Thai F/A's, picking their noses in the galley isn't endearing to Western passengers.
Be reminded too, the Malaysian who sells you a ticket from his call center in KL, fails to mention nothing is included ie: you buy your meals for $15AUD on credit card!