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Old 15th Feb 2006, 23:49
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He added that the new airline OzJet has started slowly and would likely pick up in the next two months.
Sounds suspiciously like "..AN & SQ will be the end of us..." kind of speak. We all know who the Govt. believed then.

Roll on the welfare state!
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 02:10
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Qantas jobs hang on 'policy'

16feb06

QANTAS Airways chief executive Geoff Dixon said any job losses or job moves overseas would depend on policy decisions from the Federal Government.

The Federal Government was undergoing a review to decide on whether it would allow Singapore Airlines to compete against Qantas on the lucrative trans-Pacific route between Australia and the US.

The final decision by the Government had been delayed on a number of occasions but was due in the near future.

Mr Dixon today asked the Government for a decision as soon as was possible.

"This is a very important decision," Mr Dixon said.

"It is important for how we will run the company in the future.

Every decision we make must be impacted by the regulatory position we find ourselves in.

"The policy settings that are made by the Australian Government - we will take in all those considerations when we are making other decisions on where we can best make our investments, where we can best achieve our bottom line."

He said that Qantas had made it clear to the Government that it did not want any subsidies or protection.

"We want an understanding on policy settings, particularly when it comes to opening up new routes," Mr Dixon said.

"We are expecting a Government response and when we have got that, whether it is good or bad, it will give us clarity to go forward."

He said he had no control over the timing of the decision.

"I can't do anything about that, I know they are giving it some consideration, I am just hoping they won't put it off - we have a view that there is nothing more to be said, so in effect it won't be put off.

"It will be decided some time in the near future but we haven't been told that."

Qantas today warned that further job losses were likely as the airline tried to cut costs and offset the impact of high fuel prices.

"All our business transformation initiatives are now focused on enabling Qantas to meet its future expenditure commitments and profit projections with a fuel cost above $US60 a barrel," Mr Dixon said.

"As we make these changes, job losses across various areas of the business will be inevitable."
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It's clear. Dicko is holding engineering staff to ransom. The problem is, I have this feeling that even if the government meets his demands, the hostages will still be slaughtered.
 
Old 16th Feb 2006, 02:43
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Of course, once the ransom is paid, you don't need the hostages any longer.

Once Qantas gets what they want, there is nothing to stop them still going ahead with the job cuts and sending the work off shore.
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 05:32
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am i the only one who thinks the downgrade in profits might be the beginning of the end? 5 yrs of record profits, yet there is NO reflection of that int he share price!! the market knows QFs profits are only achieved through cost cutting, and very shortly there wont be any costs left to cut, no more meat on the bone.... once the meat is gone, the profits will start falling rapidly as there has been no investment to increase revenues.
then the issues with offshore maintainence start to bite, blown out downtime, as aircraft are delayed with overwork MRO's in asia and the resultant lack of fleet flexability/maintainence flexibility. to the MRO's Qf is just another customer and will have to wait there turn.

then your local competitors will capitalise on your maintainence, or lack of it, promoting their fleets as Aussie Maintained! and yours being done in China! and the lack of aussie product with QF..

Dixon wants nothing more than the QF brand name, you will buy a QF ticket, but will get on a Jet* aircraft. they want customers to pay the QF brand name price, but fly on a 1 star airline.

dont forget, there is plenty of work for AME's and LAME's in Newcastle! we are still seriously understaffed!
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No, you're not Ultralights.

QF is now driven for, and on behalf of, it's shareholders. The almighty dollar is driving this & the very same "greed" drove AN to the wall. AN was just two shareholders so it was a bit more transparent.

There's no "fun" in aviation anymore.
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 06:48
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Well what should we expect, this is the "Era of Terrorism."
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Little Johnny doesn't care about our jobs. He never has, why would he start now?

Mr. O. Release our hostages. The game is over. The days of pulling the strings behind the two most dangerous unions at Qf are drawing to a close. You lost control of the pilots when the reform groups 21 candidates got elected. The show will repeat itself in the mid year ALAEA elections.

Say goodbye to your President who’s only line is “there’s not much we can do about it boys”. Farewell a Secretary who is too busy to organize meetings with the airline unless it involves a reduction in our conditions or job losses. And why not invite the rest of the clan over to your waterfront mansion for a parting supper. Just get the clown to remove his 400 piece tool belt before he sits down on the Chesterfield lounge suite.

Prepare to deal with a union, something you've never had to do. Explain to your buddies on the board why the airbus fleet is in pieces at terminals across the country. Take us to court when 400 engineers go sick on the same day and when the wind gusts in Melbourne reach 40 knots, book a seat on Virgin. You’ll need it.

The boys in Melbourne are angry. You let our brothers go or follow in the same path as the potato head. The new generation of engineer will be lead by fearless leaders. They will look you in the eye and not flinch when you threaten them with their jobs. The workplace relations act won’t help you either. Guerillas don’t play by the same rules.

Give the Mrs. a kiss from the boys in Melbourne.

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Old 16th Feb 2006, 07:25
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Goat Rider.... lets hope that across this once great company, people start thinking like you. From my observations as a mere AME, it seems that the ALAEA is polluted at the top level with yes men greedy to take what they can at the expense of their members. They need flushing out. The association needs new blood. What about votes of no confidence in the current knobs at the top?

Remember this everyone..... the unions are the members. It's up to the members to take control and clean up at Bexley. It stinks.
 
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Oh and while we are at it, when will the ALAEA executive stop acting like they are the elite, and start talking with the other unions??

If only they could "bring themselves down to our level" at times like these.

WE NEED TO STICK TOGETHER.

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As a hostage I wonder if I could make an appeal on the news or something for the terrorists (Dixon,Cox and co) that are threatening my livelihood and lifestyle to release us or put us out of misery?
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 07:37
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Why doesn't the current exec talk with other unions? because it's not in the company's best interest and therefore theirs.
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Co-operation with other unions is only just around the corner boys.
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ALAEA has screwed us all again at avalon

EBA VARIATION TO GO TO VOTE

The ALAEA and Forstaff Aviation will today announce to Avalon employees a proposal to vary the existing EBA without the inclusion of the AWU.

In a meeting with Forstaff Aviation Employee Relations Manager Peter Melhuish last Tuesday, the AWU was advised that the ALAEA was prepared to agree to a variation of the existing agreement until 30 June 2006 (when it was due to expire), providing for the following:

The introduction of 5 new rostering arrangements;

The ability of Forstaff to employ fixed term employees for up to 3 years;

Parity of wages to be continued, but the annual review to be deferred until 2007;

Salary maintenance for a period of 26 weeks for those employees moving onto new rosters;

The introduction of a “Forstaff Incidental Allowance” of $4.81 per shift for all employees, in lieu of payments for matters including weekend disability payments and transport allowances

The AWU has been repeatedly assured by Forstaff Aviation and Qantas that it is their collective position that the AWU be a party to any new EBA negotiated after the expiry of the existing agreement on 30 June 2006.



The AWU understands that employee consultation sessions will be held in joint presentations by Forstaff and the ALAEA today and tomorrow on the proposed variation. All employees will be given 14 days to consider the proposed variation, and then will be a given an opportunity to vote on the variation after that time.

It will be up to Forstaff employees to determine whether they agree with the proposed variation. Every vote will be important, and the AWU neither encourages, or discourages, employees to vote in favour, or against, the proposed variation.

However, the AWU wishes to make it completely clear that despite seeking to work with the ALAEA constructively, it has not been involved in the development of any “in-principle” agreement on the proposed variation.

The AWU will continue to work hard toward the representation of all categories of employees at Avalon, including LAME’s, and will not simply pander to the interests of a select few.

The AWU encourages those employees that are not members of a union to join the AWU. With over 125,000 members Australia-wide, including thousands of members in the aviation industry, the AWU is in the best position to provide employees with real bargaining power and first-class industrial representation.

If you want a change from the past, join the AWU.
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Old 16th Feb 2006, 08:45
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join the AWU

why bother they are going to do nothing.
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I hope you paid for that advertisement...............
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just a copy from awu web site.
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However, the AWU wishes to make it completely clear that despite seeking to work with the ALAEA constructively, it has not been involved in the development of any “in-principle” agreement on the proposed variation.
And there you have it! Australian Licenced Aircraft Elitist Association!
 
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Something to think about, Dicko.

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I wouldn't mnd six months salary maintenance for the shift i'll be on if I still have a job next month
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