CASA reply to PPRuNe email re TVL.
Ummmm, I thought I suggested something before. I will try again. I will bet that the imaginary behaviour that didn't exist will never happen again. If it did, then it might be punished by real and not imaginary action.
With the greatest of respect, I think that those of you who expect vengeance for imaginary wrongs are not going to be satisifed.
I am also reminded of the phrase "Give someone enough rope".. you finish the sentence.
Good luck CASA folk, I'm sure that you are getting it right
With the greatest of respect, I think that those of you who expect vengeance for imaginary wrongs are not going to be satisifed.
I am also reminded of the phrase "Give someone enough rope".. you finish the sentence.
Good luck CASA folk, I'm sure that you are getting it right
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Your thoughts are noted, as is the possibility that everything is now ok.
Whilst vengeance may be a temporary pleasure, it is not the answer or the solution.
The TLFO has consistently demonstrated personality traits that are incompatible
with holding a responsible position in a government entity.
Do you think for one moment that telling him he has been misbehaving
and that he must now behave will work. No it won't unless he undergoes hypnotic or other therapies.
I doubt that even the "Men in Black" 's neuralizer would effect the personality change needed.
The misconduct has not ceased, there are FOI's still under fear of reprisal,
despite the fact that the new AM is a genuine bloke with an "open door" policy.
The cancer must be removed and the wound must be sterilized to fix this problem.
If anything, the TLFO will now become more cunning and devious, particularly since he's been,
as you possibly suggest, told to smarten up and behave.
Your thoughts are noted, as is the possibility that everything is now ok.
Whilst vengeance may be a temporary pleasure, it is not the answer or the solution.
The TLFO has consistently demonstrated personality traits that are incompatible
with holding a responsible position in a government entity.
Do you think for one moment that telling him he has been misbehaving
and that he must now behave will work. No it won't unless he undergoes hypnotic or other therapies.
I doubt that even the "Men in Black" 's neuralizer would effect the personality change needed.
The misconduct has not ceased, there are FOI's still under fear of reprisal,
despite the fact that the new AM is a genuine bloke with an "open door" policy.
The cancer must be removed and the wound must be sterilized to fix this problem.
If anything, the TLFO will now become more cunning and devious, particularly since he's been,
as you possibly suggest, told to smarten up and behave.
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LK's protection in HO is soon retiring ( Bill ), so i am led to believe.
I would also suggest that a part of the TLFO job is to be able to effectively manage his staff, he wont bury the hatchett with the banjo player and has three COMCARE claims of harrassment causiing registered mental injuries to his own staff, perhaps this is what not being able to effectively manage your staff may look like, hmmm.
Sunfish, "enough rope", i understand the concept, in fact we are talking about people within the industries company, job, livelyhood, licence, ability to pay their mortgage, mental health, clothes for their children.
This little Social Science Experiment has to come to an end.
I would also suggest that a part of the TLFO job is to be able to effectively manage his staff, he wont bury the hatchett with the banjo player and has three COMCARE claims of harrassment causiing registered mental injuries to his own staff, perhaps this is what not being able to effectively manage your staff may look like, hmmm.
Sunfish, "enough rope", i understand the concept, in fact we are talking about people within the industries company, job, livelyhood, licence, ability to pay their mortgage, mental health, clothes for their children.
This little Social Science Experiment has to come to an end.
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How very well put:
This whole business could provide fruitful research data for a whole class of budding undergraduate psychology students.
Quite surprised at the rumoured protector, not the one usually suspected, the tall thin dark haired gentleman.
Does this mean there's two protectors ?
BB, keep looking over your shoulder ! There's more for you to find yet in your cleanup.
How very well put:
This little Social Science Experiment has come to end.
Quite surprised at the rumoured protector, not the one usually suspected, the tall thin dark haired gentleman.
Does this mean there's two protectors ?
BB, keep looking over your shoulder ! There's more for you to find yet in your cleanup.
Mr Phelan
Until I read your post, I wasn’t aware that you had anything to do with the complaints the subject of this thread.
You assert that you are:
In other words, some operators are doomed to go broke, some operators deserve to have regulatory action taken against them, and some of the operators who deserve to have regulatory action taken against them, get off scott free.
Your point appears to be that the operators you have named fall into none of those categories. If that’s your point, please forgive me if I don’t hold my breath waiting for it to be proved. In some cases, there’s even publicly available evidence to the contrary. There have even been Senate committee inquiries.
You state that you have:
Who said that you said that?
If you think any of this is important, I suggest you get your head out of the typewriter and turn you mind to such things as the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health.
Until I read your post, I wasn’t aware that you had anything to do with the complaints the subject of this thread.
You assert that you are:
well aware that some operators and individuals may be less than fully compliant, may be bad businessmen, or suffer from other deficiencies. I am also aware that many of these have never received regulatory attention.
Your point appears to be that the operators you have named fall into none of those categories. If that’s your point, please forgive me if I don’t hold my breath waiting for it to be proved. In some cases, there’s even publicly available evidence to the contrary. There have even been Senate committee inquiries.
You state that you have:
never said that anybody “leaked” information to me.
If you think any of this is important, I suggest you get your head out of the typewriter and turn you mind to such things as the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health.
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With regard to Pinnochio's taxpayer funded two day 4WD jaunt,
(for which he should reimburse the Commonwealth),
it is rumoured that the AWI accompanying him found a serious defect in CYA's C182.
The AWI found that the "rudder trim felt notchy throughout it's travel".
As the purpose of this defect report was to discredit the operator and alarm a lay judiciary,
pity it was abandoned instead of getting to court.
What the AWI did, without realising it, was to very accurately describe
the correct characteristic of a spring loaded trim system and it's necessary detent system.
An engineer or pilot experienced on type would know this, but not a member of the judiciary.
There are many tools in the box of dirty tricks. Some have been illustrated, Beware the Unwary!
The total misconduct exercised on this trip warrants investigation.
Did Pinnochio initiate the idea of targeted harrassment, or did his beloved "Illustrious Leader" ?
Little wonder that the exercise was exposed for what it was and withdrawn.
With regard to Pinnochio's taxpayer funded two day 4WD jaunt,
(for which he should reimburse the Commonwealth),
it is rumoured that the AWI accompanying him found a serious defect in CYA's C182.
The AWI found that the "rudder trim felt notchy throughout it's travel".
As the purpose of this defect report was to discredit the operator and alarm a lay judiciary,
pity it was abandoned instead of getting to court.
What the AWI did, without realising it, was to very accurately describe
the correct characteristic of a spring loaded trim system and it's necessary detent system.
An engineer or pilot experienced on type would know this, but not a member of the judiciary.
There are many tools in the box of dirty tricks. Some have been illustrated, Beware the Unwary!
The total misconduct exercised on this trip warrants investigation.
Did Pinnochio initiate the idea of targeted harrassment, or did his beloved "Illustrious Leader" ?
Little wonder that the exercise was exposed for what it was and withdrawn.
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I hope you are tending "the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health" forums, and not wasting too much of you time here!
Maybe every forum in the world should be turned into "the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health" forum.
Maybe all conversation, other than "the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health" should be banned.
But then again, maybe I am extrapolating your intent a bit too freely. Hope you are not guilty of the same thing!
Maybe every forum in the world should be turned into "the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health" forum.
Maybe all conversation, other than "the tsunami, Iraq, aids in Africa, the Sudan and your family and health" should be banned.
But then again, maybe I am extrapolating your intent a bit too freely. Hope you are not guilty of the same thing!
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I see A****** back on the job, lets see if justice is served this time, please don't let us down.
We will sits on our haunches and wait, for now.
CASA and the industry need to trust each other to work together.
We will sits on our haunches and wait, for now.
CASA and the industry need to trust each other to work together.
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AFAP also a protector
The three FOI's concerned were/are members of AFAP and the TLFO is/was the CASA secretary representative in AFAP. The fox therefore was in charge of the chicken house.
The past AFAP president was/is aware of the proceedings in the NQAO, however they have also remained silent for the past three years.
The word being used for the treatment of the three FOI's is "bastardisation” unfortunately doesn’t have legal principle however the correct term “bullied” now carries legal precedence and possible jail term. This term should be used when describing the TLFO’s conduct.
The past AFAP president was/is aware of the proceedings in the NQAO, however they have also remained silent for the past three years.
The word being used for the treatment of the three FOI's is "bastardisation” unfortunately doesn’t have legal principle however the correct term “bullied” now carries legal precedence and possible jail term. This term should be used when describing the TLFO’s conduct.
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Nipper,
and there is the reason why a very large majority of pilots have absolutely nothing to do with AFAP, they lack credibility by both association to LK and their inaction in situations like yours.
Again we pilots vote with our feet, an organisation like AFAP should sell itself, some level of protection from bad employers and CASA, i've seen neither embodied in any of their actions.
So surely by their own actions AFAP has to already know this ?, not a real good marketing stategy.
I wonder if these three FOI's will renew their memberships next financial year, or introduce any new business ?.
and there is the reason why a very large majority of pilots have absolutely nothing to do with AFAP, they lack credibility by both association to LK and their inaction in situations like yours.
Again we pilots vote with our feet, an organisation like AFAP should sell itself, some level of protection from bad employers and CASA, i've seen neither embodied in any of their actions.
So surely by their own actions AFAP has to already know this ?, not a real good marketing stategy.
I wonder if these three FOI's will renew their memberships next financial year, or introduce any new business ?.
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Nipper and Stink Finger, again, quite correct regarding the AFAP.
The AFAP is acutely aware of whats happening, they have visited Townsville and Cairns and spoken to members on both sides of the fence.
Some of the FOI's feel that there is a bond between TLFO and TOC, LC is also watching from the sidelines.
The AFAP have member complaints from both the industry and from CASA members, regarding TLFO,
and are aware that a lot of members and potential members are also watching carefully from the sidelines.
As a direct result of the TLFO's bullying of CASA and industry members, the AFAP is now aware,
that like CASA, they also are in need of an enforceable code of conduct.
The treatment of several AFAP members by some members in the CASA faction is disgraceful.
The AFAP needs to attend to this aspect when this despicable business is resolved.
It can and will affect their membership drive, and given the defection already of some, there is a clear message.
And Sunfish, the wrongs weren't "IMAGINARY", suggest you talk to some of the affected, both CASA and Industry.
The AFAP is acutely aware of whats happening, they have visited Townsville and Cairns and spoken to members on both sides of the fence.
Some of the FOI's feel that there is a bond between TLFO and TOC, LC is also watching from the sidelines.
The AFAP have member complaints from both the industry and from CASA members, regarding TLFO,
and are aware that a lot of members and potential members are also watching carefully from the sidelines.
As a direct result of the TLFO's bullying of CASA and industry members, the AFAP is now aware,
that like CASA, they also are in need of an enforceable code of conduct.
The treatment of several AFAP members by some members in the CASA faction is disgraceful.
The AFAP needs to attend to this aspect when this despicable business is resolved.
It can and will affect their membership drive, and given the defection already of some, there is a clear message.
And Sunfish, the wrongs weren't "IMAGINARY", suggest you talk to some of the affected, both CASA and Industry.
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I dont think that Sunfish imagines for one moment that the "wrongs" were "imaginary".
I suspect that he has a fine understanding of the way that the real world works in the realpolitik solution of these matters.
There will be no heads on pikes at the entrance to the castle, but there will be a quiet sorting out.
There will be no "retribution" but there will be a quiet sorting out.
There will be no "vengeance", for whatever that is worth, but there will be a quiet sorting out.
Quietly and properly, the villains in whatever form will be rooted out.,
There is due process and there is the requirement for proper form. If this is not followed then the pus and pain just gets worse.
I think it is time we trust those who have the responsibility, to act responsibly.
Mr Phelan takes me to task in regard to my "two wrongs don't make a right" comment, I would have a great deal more respect for his journalistic integrity if he were to have quoted me in context, (see my post) rather than cherry pick it for effect.
His comment in entriely in keeping with the tenor of the rest of his post
It would be difficult to argue against his sentiments in the opening paragraph of his post in regard to actions past.
They are, however in the past and I must fully concur with Mr. Sunfish's wise conclusions.
As a journalist he should understand better than most, that the posture of the language and rhetoric still being used by those who have lost control of "their agenda" because something is actually happening with which they agree and against which they can no longer rail and bluster, is too familiar and becoming rather threadbare and tired.
Neither is it particularly dignified nor even true for them to claim that “our salvation” and the "changes" taking place are a direct result of “their” actions. Somewhat demeaning and patronising of BB and BG I would have thought.
We must move on, we cannot change the past we can only ensure, as far as it is possible that it cannot and will not occur again.
Heads on pikes??? might satisfy the punters but without a fundamental change in attitude what would be achieved?
I dont think that Sunfish imagines for one moment that the "wrongs" were "imaginary".
I suspect that he has a fine understanding of the way that the real world works in the realpolitik solution of these matters.
There will be no heads on pikes at the entrance to the castle, but there will be a quiet sorting out.
There will be no "retribution" but there will be a quiet sorting out.
There will be no "vengeance", for whatever that is worth, but there will be a quiet sorting out.
Quietly and properly, the villains in whatever form will be rooted out.,
There is due process and there is the requirement for proper form. If this is not followed then the pus and pain just gets worse.
I think it is time we trust those who have the responsibility, to act responsibly.
Mr Phelan takes me to task in regard to my "two wrongs don't make a right" comment, I would have a great deal more respect for his journalistic integrity if he were to have quoted me in context, (see my post) rather than cherry pick it for effect.
His comment in entriely in keeping with the tenor of the rest of his post
It would be difficult to argue against his sentiments in the opening paragraph of his post in regard to actions past.
They are, however in the past and I must fully concur with Mr. Sunfish's wise conclusions.
I will try again. I will bet that the imaginary behaviour that didn't exist will never happen again. If it did, then it might be punished by real and not imaginary action.
With the greatest of respect, I think that those of you who expect vengeance for imaginary wrongs are not going to be satisfied.
With the greatest of respect, I think that those of you who expect vengeance for imaginary wrongs are not going to be satisfied.
Neither is it particularly dignified nor even true for them to claim that “our salvation” and the "changes" taking place are a direct result of “their” actions. Somewhat demeaning and patronising of BB and BG I would have thought.
We must move on, we cannot change the past we can only ensure, as far as it is possible that it cannot and will not occur again.
Heads on pikes??? might satisfy the punters but without a fundamental change in attitude what would be achieved?
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Gaunty,
I believe pretty much all of us here know there is not going to be a public show made of this, for many reasons.
There is not really alot of retric about how much we personally dislike these individuals, the directions are being given to BB/AC for occurences that may be of interest in helping them quietly root out these problems, to the final " i'm retiring due to poor health" ,"i've been offered a fantastic job in Ghana" or " I'm getting that pair of breasts i've always wanted".
I would be very happy with the seamless transition to a bully free school yard.
There was an Australian, a Kiwi and a short man at work together, ....... someone stole the caterers silver platers, boom boom.
I believe pretty much all of us here know there is not going to be a public show made of this, for many reasons.
There is not really alot of retric about how much we personally dislike these individuals, the directions are being given to BB/AC for occurences that may be of interest in helping them quietly root out these problems, to the final " i'm retiring due to poor health" ,"i've been offered a fantastic job in Ghana" or " I'm getting that pair of breasts i've always wanted".
I would be very happy with the seamless transition to a bully free school yard.
There was an Australian, a Kiwi and a short man at work together, ....... someone stole the caterers silver platers, boom boom.
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Just woke up and noticed this thread has dropped out of interest.
Just what the NQAO would like to see.
Does this signal that corrective action has been taken by the new AM?, or has he been defeated?
Stink Finger, Maximus B, Mainframe, anyone noticed any adjustments?
Has a new day dawned, free of ineptitude, malice, corruption, malfeasence?
Is Sunfish correct in that the problems that didn't exist have been fixed?
Just what the NQAO would like to see.
Does this signal that corrective action has been taken by the new AM?, or has he been defeated?
Stink Finger, Maximus B, Mainframe, anyone noticed any adjustments?
Has a new day dawned, free of ineptitude, malice, corruption, malfeasence?
Is Sunfish correct in that the problems that didn't exist have been fixed?
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Sorry, been to the movies!
Captain Starlight,
Nothing to report and expect there'll be nothing to report in the future.
The waiting game has been played, CASA has waited for this thread to die a natural death and it has.
The new AM, NQAO will by now have found out just who has been protecting the TLFO,
and has probably been advised that it may be career limiting to do what was expected of him.
Millions of dollars of malicious harm has been enacted on two and possibly more operators,
and the offenders have got off scot free, even with NH concerned more about the possible welfare of the offenders,
than the taxpaying entities who were genuinely harmed by their their corrupt and malicious behaviour.
The inaction of those empowered confirms that the misconduct is condoned as acceptable behaiour in a Western Democratic Society.
I sincerely hope that the new AM has not been compromised or penalised for any effort he may have made
toward setting the record straight.
AC is a decent person and it may have been quite a cultural shock to have been exposed
to the depravity of the enshrined culture within.
However, BB, NH, AC, please remember, that, as has been previously enunciated,
the truth is out there, and ultimately, the truth will prevail.
When that happens, take stock of the position you adopted, and the consequences of that decision.
Sorry, been to the movies!
Captain Starlight,
Nothing to report and expect there'll be nothing to report in the future.
The waiting game has been played, CASA has waited for this thread to die a natural death and it has.
The new AM, NQAO will by now have found out just who has been protecting the TLFO,
and has probably been advised that it may be career limiting to do what was expected of him.
Millions of dollars of malicious harm has been enacted on two and possibly more operators,
and the offenders have got off scot free, even with NH concerned more about the possible welfare of the offenders,
than the taxpaying entities who were genuinely harmed by their their corrupt and malicious behaviour.
The inaction of those empowered confirms that the misconduct is condoned as acceptable behaiour in a Western Democratic Society.
I sincerely hope that the new AM has not been compromised or penalised for any effort he may have made
toward setting the record straight.
AC is a decent person and it may have been quite a cultural shock to have been exposed
to the depravity of the enshrined culture within.
However, BB, NH, AC, please remember, that, as has been previously enunciated,
the truth is out there, and ultimately, the truth will prevail.
When that happens, take stock of the position you adopted, and the consequences of that decision.
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There have been a number of closed door meetings, there are many more to come.
HO is aware of the problem, in it purest forms, as Gaunty has stated " quiet sorting out", is most definately happening.
There is in place a focussed, non emotional, deliberate and timed approach being used, this is bound to yield the best result possible.
We will sit on our haunches and wait, for now.
HO is aware of the problem, in it purest forms, as Gaunty has stated " quiet sorting out", is most definately happening.
There is in place a focussed, non emotional, deliberate and timed approach being used, this is bound to yield the best result possible.
We will sit on our haunches and wait, for now.
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Thanks for the news, this is taking a long time to come to a result,
bit like the gestation period for an elephant.
Certainly hope the new AM emerges triumphant, and not the TLFO instead.
Exposing and dealing with his (TLFO) protectors up above should go a long way
toward ensuring an ethical future for CASA.
Thanks for the news, this is taking a long time to come to a result,
bit like the gestation period for an elephant.
Certainly hope the new AM emerges triumphant, and not the TLFO instead.
Exposing and dealing with his (TLFO) protectors up above should go a long way
toward ensuring an ethical future for CASA.
From pages 126 and 127 of the Proof Committee Hansard of the Senate Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Legislation Committee's hearings of 14 Feb 05 (copy available at http://www.aph.gov.au/hansard/senate/commttee/S8083.pdf) :
Senator MARK BISHOP—At page 82 of the CASA annual report, Mr Byron, under the heading ‘Investigation’, it states:
In April 2004 CASA commissioned Mr Stephen Skehill, Special Counsel with Mallesons Stephen Jacques, to investigate allegations made about CASA’s North Queensland Area Office.
What are the allegations exactly that have been made?
Mr Byron—The allegations are an internal matter, effectively, by CASA officers regarding CASA officers. They are fairly sensitive personal issues that I took seriously at the time and believed, in the appropriate way to manage the staffing issues within CASA, that I needed an independent investigation.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Do they go to issues of impropriety?
Mr Byron—I would need to check on that. Our considered view is that it went close to impropriety, without checking the detail.
Senator MARK BISHOP—It strikes me as being somewhat unusual that you regard the behaviour as so serious that you have got an independent investigation of CASA employees in relation to other CASA employees and you have commissioned senior counsel to do it.
Mr Byron—The issue was such—I would need to double-check the detail of the allegations—that at the time it was serious enough for me to make sure that there was a proper, thorough, independent investigation and it was seen to be done independently and thoroughly.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Does it go to improper personal behaviour or issues of misuse of resources or financing?
Mr Byron—To the best of my recollection it is related to behaviour.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Where is the investigation up to?
Mr Byron—I have received the report. I have considered it in conjunction with the chief operating officer and other senior managers and we have put in place an action plan that requires a number of people in the management organisation to do a certain number of things to sort the issues out that were raised.
Senator MARK BISHOP—It has been considered by the senior management team; the investigation has concluded; its recommendations have been considered; you have devised an action plan; and the action plan is in the process of being implemented.
Mr Byron—Yes.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Is there any potential liability to CASA or the Commonwealth as a result of the findings?
Mr Byron—We do not believe so.
Senator MARK BISHOP—What was the cost of that investigation?
Mr Byron—I am advised approximately $50,000.
Senator MARK BISHOP—I am in the wrong business! What was the process by which Mr Skehill and Mallesons were selected to carry out the investigation?
Mr Byron—Mallesons are part of CASA’s legal panel. We have an approved list and they were on the legal panel.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Mr Skehill is a former secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department. Has the investigation now concluded? Are Mr Skehill and Mallesons making other inquiries into CASA operations?
Mr Byron—No. As I mentioned, the inquiry is complete. I received the report some months ago and my orders are to get on and get the action items sorted out.
Senator MARK BISHOP—It is a one-off up in North Queensland?
Mr Byron—Yes.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Which is now concluded.
Mr Byron—Yes.
CHAIR—There are no implications under the Crimes Act?
Mr Byron—No.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Were any staff dismissed or disciplined?
Mr Byron—There was no-one dismissed. The summary is that there were a range of peripheral issues related to behaviour that need to be sorted out and that forms the core of the action items. That is pretty well the summary of it.
Senator MARK BISHOP—If I want more detail I will do it on a confidential basis.
In April 2004 CASA commissioned Mr Stephen Skehill, Special Counsel with Mallesons Stephen Jacques, to investigate allegations made about CASA’s North Queensland Area Office.
What are the allegations exactly that have been made?
Mr Byron—The allegations are an internal matter, effectively, by CASA officers regarding CASA officers. They are fairly sensitive personal issues that I took seriously at the time and believed, in the appropriate way to manage the staffing issues within CASA, that I needed an independent investigation.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Do they go to issues of impropriety?
Mr Byron—I would need to check on that. Our considered view is that it went close to impropriety, without checking the detail.
Senator MARK BISHOP—It strikes me as being somewhat unusual that you regard the behaviour as so serious that you have got an independent investigation of CASA employees in relation to other CASA employees and you have commissioned senior counsel to do it.
Mr Byron—The issue was such—I would need to double-check the detail of the allegations—that at the time it was serious enough for me to make sure that there was a proper, thorough, independent investigation and it was seen to be done independently and thoroughly.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Does it go to improper personal behaviour or issues of misuse of resources or financing?
Mr Byron—To the best of my recollection it is related to behaviour.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Where is the investigation up to?
Mr Byron—I have received the report. I have considered it in conjunction with the chief operating officer and other senior managers and we have put in place an action plan that requires a number of people in the management organisation to do a certain number of things to sort the issues out that were raised.
Senator MARK BISHOP—It has been considered by the senior management team; the investigation has concluded; its recommendations have been considered; you have devised an action plan; and the action plan is in the process of being implemented.
Mr Byron—Yes.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Is there any potential liability to CASA or the Commonwealth as a result of the findings?
Mr Byron—We do not believe so.
Senator MARK BISHOP—What was the cost of that investigation?
Mr Byron—I am advised approximately $50,000.
Senator MARK BISHOP—I am in the wrong business! What was the process by which Mr Skehill and Mallesons were selected to carry out the investigation?
Mr Byron—Mallesons are part of CASA’s legal panel. We have an approved list and they were on the legal panel.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Mr Skehill is a former secretary of the Attorney-General’s Department. Has the investigation now concluded? Are Mr Skehill and Mallesons making other inquiries into CASA operations?
Mr Byron—No. As I mentioned, the inquiry is complete. I received the report some months ago and my orders are to get on and get the action items sorted out.
Senator MARK BISHOP—It is a one-off up in North Queensland?
Mr Byron—Yes.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Which is now concluded.
Mr Byron—Yes.
CHAIR—There are no implications under the Crimes Act?
Mr Byron—No.
Senator MARK BISHOP—Were any staff dismissed or disciplined?
Mr Byron—There was no-one dismissed. The summary is that there were a range of peripheral issues related to behaviour that need to be sorted out and that forms the core of the action items. That is pretty well the summary of it.
Senator MARK BISHOP—If I want more detail I will do it on a confidential basis.
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Quietly, properly, surely, building trust and respect.
And sending a very LOUD message to the few staff who have not yet got with the programme.
And sending a very LOUD message to the few staff who have not yet got with the programme.