CASA reply to PPRuNe email re TVL.
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Well done, again, to B1,B2,NH and AC. And Pprune.
Surprised that Pinnochio is still on the scene, my sources indicated that he followed the rest of the departing misfits.
Maybe he'll seek indemnity when the AFP, as rumoured, start laying criminal charges amongst the misfits.
Stinkfinger, can you confirm that Pinnochio has been slow to leave? or is in fact intending to remain?
Has the Night Specialist been counselled and had his integrity restored?
(I guess that would be like restoring virginity, which, like integrity, once lost, is gone forever.)
The new day dawning is going to be uncomfortable for a few other area offices, but welcomed by the professionals in CASA.
Well done, again, to B1,B2,NH and AC. And Pprune.
Surprised that Pinnochio is still on the scene, my sources indicated that he followed the rest of the departing misfits.
Maybe he'll seek indemnity when the AFP, as rumoured, start laying criminal charges amongst the misfits.
Stinkfinger, can you confirm that Pinnochio has been slow to leave? or is in fact intending to remain?
Has the Night Specialist been counselled and had his integrity restored?
(I guess that would be like restoring virginity, which, like integrity, once lost, is gone forever.)
The new day dawning is going to be uncomfortable for a few other area offices, but welcomed by the professionals in CASA.
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And although Mr Paul Phelan is too modest to draw attention to himself, it should not go unnoticed that he also has been quietly hammering away 
at this and other issues he feels need addressing.
His skill in collating and crafting the literary equivalent of a heavy blunt instrument on this particular one, may have had the effect of concentrating attention and providing the right atmosphere for the escalation of actions already in progress.
PPRuNe in and of itself cannot on its own "do" anything beyond provide an arena for your news, views and rumour. Ultimately it requires the actions of individuals to carry the argument directly to the affected body.
PPRuNe through its moderators may on the rare occasion offer an "open letter" that collates "information" described here by PPRuNers and in PMs not published, where it thinks there may be a warrantable issue.
These "open letters" are carefully thought out and discussed at all levels of PPRuNe admin before publishing and will always post the responses should they be received.
at this and other issues he feels need addressing.His skill in collating and crafting the literary equivalent of a heavy blunt instrument on this particular one, may have had the effect of concentrating attention and providing the right atmosphere for the escalation of actions already in progress.
PPRuNe in and of itself cannot on its own "do" anything beyond provide an arena for your news, views and rumour. Ultimately it requires the actions of individuals to carry the argument directly to the affected body.
PPRuNe through its moderators may on the rare occasion offer an "open letter" that collates "information" described here by PPRuNers and in PMs not published, where it thinks there may be a warrantable issue.
These "open letters" are carefully thought out and discussed at all levels of PPRuNe admin before publishing and will always post the responses should they be received.
Well done, again, to B1,B2,NH and AC. And Pprune and the other individuals who literally stuck their neck out and/or head above the parapet
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Didn't want to draw too much attention to Paul, the Don Chipp ("We'll keep the batards honest").
When the Royal commission or Judicial inquiry gets underway, his meticulous chronology of CASA misconduct
will be more than enough evidence to whet their appetite.
Whilst this forum has exposed the misconduct and criminal actions
in support of that misconduct emanating from the Townsville / Cairns office,
the "Phelan Papers" detail the similar patterns and long history of misconduct of other area offices as well.
Likewise the legal firm of Wollerman Shacklock and their emminent QC John Langmead
can provide any inquiry or commission with volumes of evidence.
This firm specialises in CASA misconduct
and BB's reforms will severely impact their bottom line as gradually the reforms are implemented.
Regrettably, CASA's retained legal firm of Malleson Stephens Jaques and their emminent QC, Skehill will also suffer
a decline in business. ( providing tailored reports to cover up CASA staff misconduct.)
It must be deeply disturbing for BB and NH to grasp the magnitude of what was endorsed CASA misconduct
when they took up their respective roles.
To their credit, they are actually doing something about the problem,
something their predecessors procrastinated about and always tried to avoid rectifying.
Any inquiry will clear them of any ineptitude or corruption, based on the initiatives they have already set in place to clean up CASA.
BB and NH are not just rhetoric, they listen, analyze, evaluate and act.
I've said it before, if you have a genuine grievance or knowledge of misconduct,
and you have reasonable evidence to substantiate it,
write to Nicola Hinder or email her at the adress shown on CASA's web page.
Be assured that BB and NH are committed to getting their house in order,
and they don't tolerate staff who embarrass them with their misconduct.
Be factual, be clinical and avoid being emotive, do your homework, collate your facts before writing.
With the exception of the Townsville office which is no longer an embarrassment,
avoid contacting your area manager unless you know personally that he / she is totally ethical.
The filter process, the coverups, the sidesteps are the stock in trade of the rogue element.
They will always "circle the wagons" and defend their own,
simultaneously preventing messengers getting out with a message to headquarters.
We can all help BB achieve the reform he is committed to, so use the process that NH has provided.
Didn't want to draw too much attention to Paul, the Don Chipp ("We'll keep the batards honest").
When the Royal commission or Judicial inquiry gets underway, his meticulous chronology of CASA misconduct
will be more than enough evidence to whet their appetite.
Whilst this forum has exposed the misconduct and criminal actions
in support of that misconduct emanating from the Townsville / Cairns office,
the "Phelan Papers" detail the similar patterns and long history of misconduct of other area offices as well.
Likewise the legal firm of Wollerman Shacklock and their emminent QC John Langmead
can provide any inquiry or commission with volumes of evidence.
This firm specialises in CASA misconduct
and BB's reforms will severely impact their bottom line as gradually the reforms are implemented.
Regrettably, CASA's retained legal firm of Malleson Stephens Jaques and their emminent QC, Skehill will also suffer
a decline in business. ( providing tailored reports to cover up CASA staff misconduct.)
It must be deeply disturbing for BB and NH to grasp the magnitude of what was endorsed CASA misconduct
when they took up their respective roles.
To their credit, they are actually doing something about the problem,
something their predecessors procrastinated about and always tried to avoid rectifying.
Any inquiry will clear them of any ineptitude or corruption, based on the initiatives they have already set in place to clean up CASA.
BB and NH are not just rhetoric, they listen, analyze, evaluate and act.
I've said it before, if you have a genuine grievance or knowledge of misconduct,
and you have reasonable evidence to substantiate it,
write to Nicola Hinder or email her at the adress shown on CASA's web page.
Be assured that BB and NH are committed to getting their house in order,
and they don't tolerate staff who embarrass them with their misconduct.
Be factual, be clinical and avoid being emotive, do your homework, collate your facts before writing.
With the exception of the Townsville office which is no longer an embarrassment,
avoid contacting your area manager unless you know personally that he / she is totally ethical.
The filter process, the coverups, the sidesteps are the stock in trade of the rogue element.
They will always "circle the wagons" and defend their own,
simultaneously preventing messengers getting out with a message to headquarters.
We can all help BB achieve the reform he is committed to, so use the process that NH has provided.
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Mainframe thanks for that and the sage advice reinforcing my comments.
I am sure CASA continue as they have in the past to keep an eye on what comes and goes here and as a result get an early heads up on contentious matters.
In the past that may have been a signal for some to run for cover and may have inhibited comment here.
Methinks and mehopes there is no longer any cover and that the inihibition is no longer so.
By all means discuss and test your take on issues you feel need attention here on PPRune, we are all working towards the goal, even when we disagree with each other or have alternative points of view, but in the end the chapter and verse has to go direct to NH or the BBs if effective action is to be taken.
PPRuNe in other parts of the world has an equally long and proud history of advancing aviation by this process of free and open discussion, anonymously if that what it takes and has become as a result, one of the most respected safety portals in the world, by the contributions that ALL PPRuNers make by their participation in their PPRuNe.
I am sure CASA continue as they have in the past to keep an eye on what comes and goes here and as a result get an early heads up on contentious matters.
In the past that may have been a signal for some to run for cover and may have inhibited comment here.
Methinks and mehopes there is no longer any cover and that the inihibition is no longer so.
By all means discuss and test your take on issues you feel need attention here on PPRune, we are all working towards the goal, even when we disagree with each other or have alternative points of view, but in the end the chapter and verse has to go direct to NH or the BBs if effective action is to be taken.
Be factual, be clinical and avoid being emotive, do your homework, collate your facts before writing
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I have a feeling this thread could get interesting again.........!!!
I hear the leave will shortly end! But will he take the hint????
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I hear the leave will shortly end! But will he take the hint????
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Yes, interesting things are rumoured.
Let's hope B1 and B2 sustain the momentum,
although they appear to have missed a gear and are sitting in neutral.
Or maybe they are waiting at a set of lights for the green one.
They have the information, but appear to need a shot of testosterone to use it.
Is there, lurking in the corridors of power, one who has the dirt on someone?
Stay tuned, this could , as you say, get interesting.
Yes, interesting things are rumoured.
Let's hope B1 and B2 sustain the momentum,
although they appear to have missed a gear and are sitting in neutral.
Or maybe they are waiting at a set of lights for the green one.
They have the information, but appear to need a shot of testosterone to use it.
Is there, lurking in the corridors of power, one who has the dirt on someone?
Stay tuned, this could , as you say, get interesting.
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Gents, no offence, but the way i see it quite alot has happened. All of a very positive nature.
What do you expect to see happen ?.
Note: I am all for not being Bullied and being able to pick up the phone and get an honest answer, and i have been getting exactly that of late.
Other than perhaps trying Malfeasance / Bullying claims against individuals ( who happen / happened to work for CASA ), I think CASA is somewhat out of the lime light.
They were asked to look at certain problems, which they did, and subsequently took action, so it would appear. Problem solved.
Royal Commision, Pigs Bollocks.
Look what happened to the Queensland Health issues recently.
What do you expect to see happen ?.
Note: I am all for not being Bullied and being able to pick up the phone and get an honest answer, and i have been getting exactly that of late.
Other than perhaps trying Malfeasance / Bullying claims against individuals ( who happen / happened to work for CASA ), I think CASA is somewhat out of the lime light.
They were asked to look at certain problems, which they did, and subsequently took action, so it would appear. Problem solved.
Royal Commision, Pigs Bollocks.
Look what happened to the Queensland Health issues recently.
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I agree with you
refer my earlier post:
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"It must be deeply disturbing for BB and NH to grasp the magnitude of what was endorsed CASA misconduct
when they took up their respective roles.
To their credit, they are actually doing something about the problem,
something their predecessors procrastinated about and always tried to avoid rectifying.
Any inquiry will clear them of any ineptitude or corruption, based on the initiatives they have already set in place to clean up CASA.
BB and NH are not just rhetoric, they listen, analyze, evaluate and act."
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Yes things are happening, and it is noticeable.
Captain Starlight
surely you'e seen the changes happening, the new faces appearing, the old ones (except a couple) disappearing.
And like the Qld Health issue, looks like the're leaving on First Class tickets also.
Suggest you dig deep and ascertain that the changes are real.
As for judicial or disciplinary action, it will happen, relax.
Remember that we might not hear about it, and it may take time for the processes to be fully activated and completed.
Byron has seen how Amanda Vanstone was let down by her underlings, as was the Qld Premier and his Health Minister.
Warren Truss would not want to learn that Byron has not acted, nor is he likely to. There has and will be action.
Be Patient.
Truth and Justice have a long history of ultimately prevailing.
MF.
I agree with you
refer my earlier post:
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"It must be deeply disturbing for BB and NH to grasp the magnitude of what was endorsed CASA misconduct
when they took up their respective roles.
To their credit, they are actually doing something about the problem,
something their predecessors procrastinated about and always tried to avoid rectifying.
Any inquiry will clear them of any ineptitude or corruption, based on the initiatives they have already set in place to clean up CASA.
BB and NH are not just rhetoric, they listen, analyze, evaluate and act."
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Yes things are happening, and it is noticeable.
Captain Starlight
surely you'e seen the changes happening, the new faces appearing, the old ones (except a couple) disappearing.
And like the Qld Health issue, looks like the're leaving on First Class tickets also.
Suggest you dig deep and ascertain that the changes are real.
As for judicial or disciplinary action, it will happen, relax.
Remember that we might not hear about it, and it may take time for the processes to be fully activated and completed.
Byron has seen how Amanda Vanstone was let down by her underlings, as was the Qld Premier and his Health Minister.
Warren Truss would not want to learn that Byron has not acted, nor is he likely to. There has and will be action.
Be Patient.
Truth and Justice have a long history of ultimately prevailing.
MF.
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You must be talking about: http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au...55E903,00.html
I say good on B1 for working from home, i am certain he is still able to do a majority of his work there. Infact I've been able to achieve a great deal more from my work day from the quiet of my home office.
Too many men, especially in Aviation, put their job far and above their family, that is stupid, good on you B1. I wish our industry was more aware of the importance of family.
As to what has been alluded to above, I hope "the organisation" has the balls to make a name for themselves ( i.e. Malfeasance / Bullying Charges). ( edited for spelling mistakes, too many reds last night )
I say good on B1 for working from home, i am certain he is still able to do a majority of his work there. Infact I've been able to achieve a great deal more from my work day from the quiet of my home office.
Too many men, especially in Aviation, put their job far and above their family, that is stupid, good on you B1. I wish our industry was more aware of the importance of family.
As to what has been alluded to above, I hope "the organisation" has the balls to make a name for themselves ( i.e. Malfeasance / Bullying Charges). ( edited for spelling mistakes, too many reds last night )
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It's all over the Murdoch press.
So what!
He's the CEO and a very comptetent one, doesn't matter where his office is nowadays with the internet ands comms we have it really doesn't matter.
The scenario as described could happen any time anywhere, where the CEO, Minister or the PM is at the time is equally random.
Bush was in Texas reading to kids.
I any event Bruce Gemmel is the Operating Officer and the person responsible for the day to day nuts and bolts and very competent as well.
So what does every one want, an office bound Director who's never seen by the rank and file and operators or someone out there actually engaging in dialogue. Either way someone will decide fro their own agenda they should be doing the opposite of what they are.
So what!
He's the CEO and a very comptetent one, doesn't matter where his office is nowadays with the internet ands comms we have it really doesn't matter.
The scenario as described could happen any time anywhere, where the CEO, Minister or the PM is at the time is equally random.
Bush was in Texas reading to kids.
I any event Bruce Gemmel is the Operating Officer and the person responsible for the day to day nuts and bolts and very competent as well.
So what does every one want, an office bound Director who's never seen by the rank and file and operators or someone out there actually engaging in dialogue. Either way someone will decide fro their own agenda they should be doing the opposite of what they are.
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my last post, quote:
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"Is there, lurking in the corridors of power, one who has the dirt on someone? "
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rumour has it that B1's reforms are not sitting well with the subculture.
Stinkfinger and Gaunty, agree with you, his workplace doesn't matter, as long as he works, and effectively.
B1 has work to do, and it can be done from home, frm his frequent field trips where he is meeting his customers,
or even when he's in Melbourne or Canberra.
He can initiate the sackings, the investigations leading to charges,
the cleansing of CASA, from any of his preferred workplaces.
This is 2005, not 1965, mobile phones, laptops, the internet are the tools of communication.
I guess a bit more time in Canberra might have helped identify some of the subculture, or maybe not.
Let's hope he finishes what he started before he is replaced with a neophyte, innocent and unaware of the power within.
Mainframe, don't clap too loud or too long, the job's not finished yet.
CS
my last post, quote:
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"Is there, lurking in the corridors of power, one who has the dirt on someone? "
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rumour has it that B1's reforms are not sitting well with the subculture.
Stinkfinger and Gaunty, agree with you, his workplace doesn't matter, as long as he works, and effectively.
B1 has work to do, and it can be done from home, frm his frequent field trips where he is meeting his customers,
or even when he's in Melbourne or Canberra.
He can initiate the sackings, the investigations leading to charges,
the cleansing of CASA, from any of his preferred workplaces.
This is 2005, not 1965, mobile phones, laptops, the internet are the tools of communication.
I guess a bit more time in Canberra might have helped identify some of the subculture, or maybe not.
Let's hope he finishes what he started before he is replaced with a neophyte, innocent and unaware of the power within.
Mainframe, don't clap too loud or too long, the job's not finished yet.
CS
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There is a little thing called "capture" which is a natural result of being in the middle of things in the day to day hurly burly.
It's a perfectly natural human condition to which we are all prone and which we practise daily on each other when we are in constant contact.
It is much easier to see the real picture from afar and keep a clear view of what people are actually doing as distinct from what they say they are.
Given the task Mr Byron has in front of him, which will inevitably involve some unpleasantness, the more detached he can stay the easier it will be.
The Navies of the first world know very well the problems of "capture" that can face the Capt of a ship, an isolated commnunity, from which whilst at once being a part of the crew, he is also effectively isolated from them by fairly strict protocols and rules of behaviour.
All the pop psychology and "modern management" techniques in the world is not going to change that.
There is a little thing called "capture" which is a natural result of being in the middle of things in the day to day hurly burly.
It's a perfectly natural human condition to which we are all prone and which we practise daily on each other when we are in constant contact.
It is much easier to see the real picture from afar and keep a clear view of what people are actually doing as distinct from what they say they are.
Given the task Mr Byron has in front of him, which will inevitably involve some unpleasantness, the more detached he can stay the easier it will be.
The Navies of the first world know very well the problems of "capture" that can face the Capt of a ship, an isolated commnunity, from which whilst at once being a part of the crew, he is also effectively isolated from them by fairly strict protocols and rules of behaviour.
All the pop psychology and "modern management" techniques in the world is not going to change that.
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Gaunty, touche (fr; too-shey)
Well put.
The Canberra uprisings earlier this year were observed from Melbourne, a trip to Canberra administered the executions.
I have no doubt that the B1 sees more than he would like,
his problem, on a salary of $40,000 per month, plus expenses,
is deciding what, if any, action to take.
The record, and this thread, will establish that B1 was well informed of the Townsville problem, at least two years ago,
but chose to initially have the accused investigate themselves, with the predictable conclusion.
Subsequently, the Skehill report again cleared the offenders, ignoring the overwhelming evidence available to the contrary.
How all of this could be explained in a Judicial Inquiry would be a challenge even for Richard Nixon and his Watergate cohorts.
B1 now needs to earn the $40,000 / month, and take the decisive action that should have been taken two years and millions of dollars ago.
That sort of salary is not intended for procrastinators, it is for effective executives.
B1, sharpen the sword, there's work to be done.
Well put.
The Canberra uprisings earlier this year were observed from Melbourne, a trip to Canberra administered the executions.
I have no doubt that the B1 sees more than he would like,
his problem, on a salary of $40,000 per month, plus expenses,
is deciding what, if any, action to take.
The record, and this thread, will establish that B1 was well informed of the Townsville problem, at least two years ago,
but chose to initially have the accused investigate themselves, with the predictable conclusion.
Subsequently, the Skehill report again cleared the offenders, ignoring the overwhelming evidence available to the contrary.
How all of this could be explained in a Judicial Inquiry would be a challenge even for Richard Nixon and his Watergate cohorts.
B1 now needs to earn the $40,000 / month, and take the decisive action that should have been taken two years and millions of dollars ago.
That sort of salary is not intended for procrastinators, it is for effective executives.
B1, sharpen the sword, there's work to be done.
Good Luck to Mr. Byron!
Public Servants often have a difficult time deciding who their "customers" are. Group one: For them, the customer is the Minister and they regard a posting away from Canberra and closer to the general public as a demotion (I kid you not!).
For the good ones, group two, the customer is the industry or group of people they are actually responsible for, and they try and see as much of them as they can and regard trips to Canberra as time wasted.
I would suggest Mr. Byron falls into this second group, thank goodness.
Furthermore, there is one thing that the Canberra based group one bureaucrats absolutely hate with a consuming passion, it is an absolutely devastating arguing tactic used by members of group two, for which they have no defence.........
It's when someone gets up at a meeting and says "I've consulted with the industry at length and they consider your proposal is unworkable, if you would like that in writing from members of the industry I can easily provide it."
I think we can regard the travel cost story in the Murdoch press as evidence that Mr. Byron is doing the right thing and the bad guys are hurting.
Public Servants often have a difficult time deciding who their "customers" are. Group one: For them, the customer is the Minister and they regard a posting away from Canberra and closer to the general public as a demotion (I kid you not!).
For the good ones, group two, the customer is the industry or group of people they are actually responsible for, and they try and see as much of them as they can and regard trips to Canberra as time wasted.
I would suggest Mr. Byron falls into this second group, thank goodness.
Furthermore, there is one thing that the Canberra based group one bureaucrats absolutely hate with a consuming passion, it is an absolutely devastating arguing tactic used by members of group two, for which they have no defence.........
It's when someone gets up at a meeting and says "I've consulted with the industry at length and they consider your proposal is unworkable, if you would like that in writing from members of the industry I can easily provide it."
I think we can regard the travel cost story in the Murdoch press as evidence that Mr. Byron is doing the right thing and the bad guys are hurting.
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Sunfish,
Totally agree, BB has started on a tough job,
it would be disastrous for him to be undermined by the bad guys before he can get to them.
Nothing would suit the bad guys more than having another new and naive leader that they could initially control.
BB, there's still work to be done, get on with it before they oust you instead.
There is great merit not being in Canberra, on the inside looking out.
Being out of Canberra means that the advantage of being on the outside looking in is Byron's.
As was demonstrated by the attempted Canberra coup after a Melbourne meeting earlier this year.
BB, keep the sackings going till you clean out the rot, as you will.
Better still, sack the whole lot.
Then start from afresh, inviting all to re apply for their jobs and only selecting those of good repute.
It's been successfully done elsewhere, bite the bullet!
There's been a few long service leave taker's lately,
encourage a few more to do likewise, or encourage them to take redundancy.
Totally agree, BB has started on a tough job,
it would be disastrous for him to be undermined by the bad guys before he can get to them.
Nothing would suit the bad guys more than having another new and naive leader that they could initially control.
BB, there's still work to be done, get on with it before they oust you instead.
There is great merit not being in Canberra, on the inside looking out.
Being out of Canberra means that the advantage of being on the outside looking in is Byron's.
As was demonstrated by the attempted Canberra coup after a Melbourne meeting earlier this year.
BB, keep the sackings going till you clean out the rot, as you will.
Better still, sack the whole lot.
Then start from afresh, inviting all to re apply for their jobs and only selecting those of good repute.
It's been successfully done elsewhere, bite the bullet!
There's been a few long service leave taker's lately,
encourage a few more to do likewise, or encourage them to take redundancy.
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Sunfish and Starlight,
Want to take bets that the "bad guys" will win??
Things are not so cosy in the camp, the undermining will continue unabated until he is rolled.
The Status Quo must be preserved at all costs.
To hell with reform, Goodbye B1, welcome, as Starlight suggests, the new and naive successor.
Want to take bets that the "bad guys" will win??
Things are not so cosy in the camp, the undermining will continue unabated until he is rolled.
The Status Quo must be preserved at all costs.
To hell with reform, Goodbye B1, welcome, as Starlight suggests, the new and naive successor.
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I like what BB is saying, and I hope he does not get rolled.
They have recruited some real aviators in recent times. Some of them have actually had experience outside the "J curve"
The signs are good, and I hope he can make it work.
They have recruited some real aviators in recent times. Some of them have actually had experience outside the "J curve"
The signs are good, and I hope he can make it work.
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Ronalds resignation was effective a couple of weeks ago, so that era is over.
It would also appear that the prodicle FOI may return, lets call him " Danny Deck Chair ", he is a well respected individual and would be an asset to CASA to be back on the job.
BB has done exactly what i feel he should have, to those that will persue legal action against one of CASA's now ex-employee's, I and many other wish you well with that endeavour.
Regarding the bad press BB was receiving over his work arrangements, Gaunty hit the nail on the head, " Capture", also being in a forecasting roll as opposed to damage control, which should have been the methods employed by prior CASA CEO types.
As to the others mentioned here, the hangman is still very much in the workplace.
It would also appear that the prodicle FOI may return, lets call him " Danny Deck Chair ", he is a well respected individual and would be an asset to CASA to be back on the job.
BB has done exactly what i feel he should have, to those that will persue legal action against one of CASA's now ex-employee's, I and many other wish you well with that endeavour.
Regarding the bad press BB was receiving over his work arrangements, Gaunty hit the nail on the head, " Capture", also being in a forecasting roll as opposed to damage control, which should have been the methods employed by prior CASA CEO types.
As to the others mentioned here, the hangman is still very much in the workplace.
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Stinkfinger,
Good to see you back and thanks for the update.
I think we all wish BB well and expect him to continue and finish that which he has started.
Yes, heard that the resignations were underway, sorry to see an unexpected one though (the naval aviator).
I guess the stress of compromising his unquestionably ethical character to suit the misfit
eventually overwhelmed him. Or maybe disgust got the better of him.
He was fair and there appears to be no record of malice or misconduct by him. Sorry to see him go.
It is quite disturbing that Pinnochio is still around.
He will be rolled when the external inquiry gets underway,
sufficient evidence exists to suggest to him it's time to move on now to avoid being an embarrassment to CASA later on.
Bushy
Yes, the new boys have solid backgrounds and it appears that the usual selection criteria,
" A verifiable history of either Industry or Military career failure would be highly regarded"
has, in their case, been waived .
AC is very much in charge and hands on.
Let's hope Pinnochio doesn't mislead him too much, but I guess AC has placed him on a short lead anyway.
Mainframe
I think you'll find B1 is not really out of touch, just waiting to nail a few more in the correct manner at the correct time.
I do agree however, that nothing would suit the bad guys better than to have him move on and to have a new boy.
B1 is getting too close for comfort with some.
CS
Good to see you back and thanks for the update.
I think we all wish BB well and expect him to continue and finish that which he has started.
Yes, heard that the resignations were underway, sorry to see an unexpected one though (the naval aviator).
I guess the stress of compromising his unquestionably ethical character to suit the misfit
eventually overwhelmed him. Or maybe disgust got the better of him.
He was fair and there appears to be no record of malice or misconduct by him. Sorry to see him go.
It is quite disturbing that Pinnochio is still around.
He will be rolled when the external inquiry gets underway,
sufficient evidence exists to suggest to him it's time to move on now to avoid being an embarrassment to CASA later on.
Bushy
Yes, the new boys have solid backgrounds and it appears that the usual selection criteria,
" A verifiable history of either Industry or Military career failure would be highly regarded"
has, in their case, been waived .
AC is very much in charge and hands on.
Let's hope Pinnochio doesn't mislead him too much, but I guess AC has placed him on a short lead anyway.
Mainframe
I think you'll find B1 is not really out of touch, just waiting to nail a few more in the correct manner at the correct time.
I do agree however, that nothing would suit the bad guys better than to have him move on and to have a new boy.
B1 is getting too close for comfort with some.
CS