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Dear oh Dear pete. Some people just never learn. I didnt think anyone actually gave a rats a$$ as to what or where you fly.
Sounds like flying school stuff. Im sure there will be plenty of shopping malls in asia to cruise around (in uniform) on your days off.
See you when you get back little matey!
Sounds like flying school stuff. Im sure there will be plenty of shopping malls in asia to cruise around (in uniform) on your days off.
See you when you get back little matey!
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Jee you are bitter pete. Now whats brought all of this on matey?
By the way I was not slinging mud regarding the over run. No one is perfect except you Pete.
By the way I was not slinging mud regarding the over run. No one is perfect except you Pete.
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Let it go DM, I have more important things to do than justify anything I say. If you want to push the issue, go right ahead, you insult your own intelligence if you think I'm going to feed your self righteousness. If I was you, I wouldn't walk around thinking your home and hosed where you work. I aint bitter at VQ, I don't care enough about them to give a rats, I had no desire to work for them prior to getting 717's, never applied.
Now how about you go do something constructive instead of waiting by the computer on a daily basis to see if I post something on pprune.
Now how about you go do something constructive instead of waiting by the computer on a daily basis to see if I post something on pprune.
My opinion only,
Airbus will have containerized freight, can carry for AAE and probably Patricks .
If Skimpy goes Airbus the QF Pilots will not have much of a case for crewing it. ( Although somebody should start a poll to see how many QF Pilots would give up mainline for a permanent position in a LCC ).
A320 very different to VB ,will not look like a copy of the VB model.
Probably wont be red either.
The 737s on order will no doubt replace the 767 eventually and will all be used by mainline with the natural passenger growth there is not excess aircraft on order if there was QF would not be looking at Airbus and boeing for a new order of 23 aircraft they would already be on there way.
The funniest thing this must have floored the management at SQ when Dixon announced it he is certainly no dill.
Airbus will have containerized freight, can carry for AAE and probably Patricks .
If Skimpy goes Airbus the QF Pilots will not have much of a case for crewing it. ( Although somebody should start a poll to see how many QF Pilots would give up mainline for a permanent position in a LCC ).
A320 very different to VB ,will not look like a copy of the VB model.
Probably wont be red either.
The 737s on order will no doubt replace the 767 eventually and will all be used by mainline with the natural passenger growth there is not excess aircraft on order if there was QF would not be looking at Airbus and boeing for a new order of 23 aircraft they would already be on there way.
The funniest thing this must have floored the management at SQ when Dixon announced it he is certainly no dill.
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As to whether a Mainline driver would transfer to LCC? It would depend on a number of factors, pay, conditions, freeze....if it's anything like the Aust. A/L deal, I for one will be in like flynn!!
We have options on a number of 738s, not sure on how many left , but i reckon about 23!!, just seems too easy to get the next batch painted blue or watever and throw a contract at the mainline drivers...again only my opinion
We have options on a number of 738s, not sure on how many left , but i reckon about 23!!, just seems too easy to get the next batch painted blue or watever and throw a contract at the mainline drivers...again only my opinion
Hi Rambo,
Skimpy are supposedly getting a couple of Ryan-air execs to show them the light when it comes to an LCC.
One key part of the model- They don't carry freight. They don't carry pets. They don't even check baggage through on multi-stage flights (where ever possible they don't DO multi stage flights!)
The 737 has been weapon of choise for every LCC with the exception of Jet Blue, who needed the range and started pre NG.
easyJet have gone 'Bus only because they got the sweetheart deal of the century (I believe 50% off on 120 A319s). I don't think that kind of deal will come around again.
I'm not ruling A320s out, but it sounds like they want to pretty slavishly follow the LCC model e.g. Southwest, Ryan and easy, in which case the 73 would seem to be the front runner.
Skimpy are supposedly getting a couple of Ryan-air execs to show them the light when it comes to an LCC.
One key part of the model- They don't carry freight. They don't carry pets. They don't even check baggage through on multi-stage flights (where ever possible they don't DO multi stage flights!)
The 737 has been weapon of choise for every LCC with the exception of Jet Blue, who needed the range and started pre NG.
easyJet have gone 'Bus only because they got the sweetheart deal of the century (I believe 50% off on 120 A319s). I don't think that kind of deal will come around again.
I'm not ruling A320s out, but it sounds like they want to pretty slavishly follow the LCC model e.g. Southwest, Ryan and easy, in which case the 73 would seem to be the front runner.
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Has anyone considered the possibility that if QF mainline drivers do get the nod and the conditions are not attractive financially for current mainline FO's, commands at the LCC could theoretically be sourced from current SO's. 
OK "Ready, Aim, Fir........."
OK "Ready, Aim, Fir........."
QF Lib,
As a number of QF S/Os are highly experienced ex AN F/Os and Capts, why not? There would have to be a minimum experience level, but there are plenty in the ranks who would satisfy it.
As a number of QF S/Os are highly experienced ex AN F/Os and Capts, why not? There would have to be a minimum experience level, but there are plenty in the ranks who would satisfy it.
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Thumpa, I think I saw a thread here last week, something about a 717 heavy landing? thumpa by name, thumpa by ability?
I think there is another thread regarding QF washing it's hands of QFLink? Wouldn't that be a shame if it was VQ?
Just lighting the fuse boys, just lighting the fuse.......LOL!!!!
I think there is another thread regarding QF washing it's hands of QFLink? Wouldn't that be a shame if it was VQ?
Just lighting the fuse boys, just lighting the fuse.......LOL!!!!
Oz & Librarian.
No way. It is a double whammy to upgrade you and then replace you. A ruthless CEO appreciates your skills and past experience right where they are!
Advantages Continued.
13- An NG/321 purchase should come with some Training Credits. By recruiting endorsed pilots on sell these credits to eager beavers joining the likes of Pacific Blue(spending their next 5 years of savings) and then poach them(with promises of mainline advancement).
Alternatively, train up new joining F/O's with a requirment they have or must pay for their endorsement. The Training Credit will provide the training and the young new joiner has just handed over his first 6 months pay.
None of the above, borrowed concepts from Virgin Blue Flight management, would be possible with the transferring of mainline crews.
No way. It is a double whammy to upgrade you and then replace you. A ruthless CEO appreciates your skills and past experience right where they are!
Advantages Continued.
13- An NG/321 purchase should come with some Training Credits. By recruiting endorsed pilots on sell these credits to eager beavers joining the likes of Pacific Blue(spending their next 5 years of savings) and then poach them(with promises of mainline advancement).
Alternatively, train up new joining F/O's with a requirment they have or must pay for their endorsement. The Training Credit will provide the training and the young new joiner has just handed over his first 6 months pay.
None of the above, borrowed concepts from Virgin Blue Flight management, would be possible with the transferring of mainline crews.
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Airbus will perform the proverbial 'blo job' in order to close the deal.
Skimpy recruitment could do us all a favour and dump the psychometrics and look at the experience, skill and potential of applicants instead.
Not to mention the HSC.
Skimpy recruitment could do us all a favour and dump the psychometrics and look at the experience, skill and potential of applicants instead.
Not to mention the HSC.
Maybe QF will put all the EX Taa guys through the psyche tests and if they havnt got HSC or dont pass the tests theyll have to be thrown to Skimpy to make way for some more high school graduates who can pass, and in QF eyes will make better pilots one day.
IT has to be 100% QF crews if you want bidding rights back to mainline otherwise if any strays get in theyll have to have the same deal.
Speaking of deals EK is still a better deal.
IT has to be 100% QF crews if you want bidding rights back to mainline otherwise if any strays get in theyll have to have the same deal.
Speaking of deals EK is still a better deal.
Are Gnadenburg, you haven't been listening to Jake! Only QF mainline pilots know how to fly aeroplanes! Where have you been?
Your points are all agreed with, my reply to QF Lib was purely based on an "If".
By the way QF Lib, what was your last AN type and base?
Your points are all agreed with, my reply to QF Lib was purely based on an "If".
By the way QF Lib, what was your last AN type and base?
short flights long nights
The pysche tests are really cool and important. The tests "told" me I could never fly a large airliner, and certainly NOT in airspace that QF flies, .... well its what I do every day, and still have managed 12 years later not to kill myself