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LeonidasM 28th March 2018 10:49

Well I'm really happy to report I too received an offer today - for the tower course starting in July.

Very excited :)

newpants 28th March 2018 11:18

Thanks Dip!

yeah im aware what the medicals are like, having held a class 1 for commercial flight training previously. And how annoying casa can be with time frames! Luckily ASA have given me plenty of time for when they want the pre-start stuff completed by.

I plan on quitting my current job to leave me 2 weeks work free, which should give me enough time to do those studies that you mentioned, however havent been provided with them yet.

Good luck!

Dip_ATC 28th March 2018 21:18

And congrats to LeonidasM too!

LeonidasM 28th March 2018 21:19


Originally Posted by Dip_ATC (Post 10100293)
And congrats to LeonidasM too!

Thanks :) Very excited.

harry1216 29th March 2018 00:17

Some good news coming out now at least! Congrats to everyone. I also just received an offer for the July EnRoute course! Plenty of stuff to sort out in the meantime

ElFynn1214 30th April 2018 21:13

How is everyone going on the Enroute course that started in April?

Does anyone know if the Tower and Enroute course starting early July are fully booked?

Also is it possible that the successful applicants from this months Assessment Centres would start on a course at some stage in 2018?

Cheers.

TheSpoonPlatoon 1st May 2018 01:51

We are going well; about half way through the first chunk of theory now.

Last we heard, the July courses are not yet filled. Unsure if this round of assessments is for July only, but they have indicated at least one more course for this year after the July start.

newpants 1st May 2018 06:46


Originally Posted by ElFynn1214 (Post 10134599)
How is everyone going on the Enroute course that started in April?

Does anyone know if the Tower and Enroute course starting early July are fully booked?

Also is it possible that the successful applicants from this months Assessment Centres would start on a course at some stage in 2018?

Cheers.

Id hazard a guess and say that unless you are in the team of people hiring applicants, then its hard to know if they are fully booked.
But i'd also go out on a limb and say that there is a good chance those being assessed/interviewed this month very much have a chance of starting on the July courses.

ElFynn1214 1st May 2018 07:35

Okay thanks.

ElFynn1214 1st May 2018 22:44


Originally Posted by TheSpoonPlatoon (Post 10134746)
We are going well; about half way through the first chunk of theory now.

Last we heard, the July courses are not yet filled. Unsure if this round of assessments is for July only, but they have indicated at least one more course for this year after the July start.

Glad to hear you're all doing well so far.

The rest of 2018 sounds promising, that's great!

ElFynn1214 1st May 2018 22:47


Originally Posted by MGAAG (Post 10134886)
G'day guys,

Just putting it out there since I've read offers for accommodation in the past, as well as advice that it's better to live with your classmates; I am moving interstate to commence the ENR course on the 2nd July.

If anyone would like to arrange accommodation together, or offer somewhere, please PM me. Look forward to meeting you all then.

Cheers.

MGAAG providing everything goes to plan my end I'd be keen. I won't know until late May/early June however.

WDags 4th May 2018 01:47

Hey all,

Just thought I'd chip in, I'm attending an assessment day on the 17th. If all goes well, I'd be looking for accommodation within Melbourne too. Anyone know how many more assessment days they are running in this block?

Cheers

ElFynn1214 4th May 2018 02:37


Originally Posted by WDags (Post 10137491)
Hey all,

Just thought I'd chip in, I'm attending an assessment day on the 17th. If all goes well, I'd be looking for accommodation within Melbourne too. Anyone know how many more assessment days they are running in this block?

Cheers

Hi,

I'm there for mine on the 16th.
I think they're running for the 5 days that week.

mikewil 4th May 2018 05:14


Originally Posted by ElFynn1214 (Post 10137504)


Hi,

I'm there for mine on the 16th.
I think they're running for the 5 days that week.

When did everyone who is going to this current round of assessment days actually apply? Is this still from the applications of late last year or have there been new ones since?

Any one know what the success rate is from the assessment days? Do you have a pretty good chance of being selected or do they only choose the top 10% or something?

ElFynn1214 4th May 2018 08:29


Originally Posted by mikewil (Post 10137555)
When did everyone who is going to this current round of assessment days actually apply? Is this still from the applications of late last year or have there been new ones since?

Any one know what the success rate is from the assessment days? Do you have a pretty good chance of being selected or do they only choose the top 10% or something?

Yeah I applied late last year.
Not too sure of the success rate from the Assessment Centres.

MrAvGeek 3rd June 2018 11:43

Airservices have opened their Air Traffic Control trainee applications again. Closing date is 21 Jun 18.

Seph90 4th June 2018 14:44

Does anyone know if they are strict on the 10 year old qualification? My qualification just passed the 10 year mark (2007), if they won't accept it whats the quickest qualification I could do for ATC?

Chopz 7th June 2018 02:26

Testing
 
Hi all,

Long time reader here, first time poster.

I have recently reapplied for the position with Airservices. Does anyone know what changes have happened with the testing since 2016?

It seems aptitude and personality testing are done simultaneously? I recall reading above that you can still be invited to an assessment centre even if you don't pass the aptitude test?

Any advice would be appreciated.

le Pingouin 7th June 2018 13:58

It's still only two chances - hidden away on this page: "You can only apply for this position twice, so if your first application is unsuccessful, you can only apply one more time. Once your application is submitted it will be counted as one attempt."

Trainee air traffic controllers | Airservices

Shifts are typically 8 hours with some longer, some shorter. Console time depends on how busy it - when quiet it might be 60 on 30 off, when really busy it might be 150 on 30 off, but 90 on 30 off would be typical. Night shifts are a different kettle of fish and some towers are single man at least part of the time so you're it until your relief arrives.

sunnySA 7th June 2018 14:44


Originally Posted by le Pingouin (Post 10167361)
I...when really busy it might be 150 on 30 off

Trouble is there are 2 conflicting paragraphs in the EA - total of 30 minutes break in 8 hour shift and not being able to work longer than 120 minutes without a break. Bit silly really, yet the Union doesn't do anything about it.

le Pingouin 7th June 2018 17:18

The clause is "ATCs should not work more than 2 hours without a break but must not exceed 3 hours without a break, except in extraordinary circumstances....". It doesn't specify how long a break should be - 3 x 10 minute breaks between 2 hour stints obeys both rules.

le Pingouin 8th June 2018 16:09

The hours worked without a break isn't really an issue, at least in Melbourne Centre - working in excess of two hours is unusual. The numbers have improved but there are still plenty of us in our 50s, so heading out the door sooner rather than later.

Chopz 9th June 2018 01:05


Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen (Post 10168083)
I am not sure if there are any "changes" as such to the testing. But the type of questions for each domain MIGHT change. For instance, one could study spatial tests with 3d cubes (because they used these in the test on the applicant's first attempt) only to end up with a different spatial test using rotated shapes, if that makes sense.

If you're not aware already, the tests involve verbal reasoning, numerical reasoning, numerical calculations, spatial reasoning and checking tests. On successful completion of this, you will be invited to complete the OPQ (occupational personality questionnaire). To my understanding, you will only go to the assessment centre if you pass both the Online Ability Assessment and OPQ.

Feel free to PM me and I'll link you some of the sites I am doing practice tests with.

Hi mate,

Thanks for the advice, tried to PM you but it won't let me unfortunately.

You can’t use the Private Messaging system, add url links or images until you have an established posting history.

lollenchilla 11th June 2018 11:40

Hi Guys

I'm on the July en route course and moving over to Melbourne from interstate soon. Would be great to hear from anyone on my course. If anyone is looking for accomodation please let me know. I keep hearing it is a good idea to be with people on course.

kusinka 3rd July 2018 22:41

June application
 
Hi! Anyone else applied in June and was invited for the online assessment?

Atc applicant 5th July 2018 11:29


Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen (Post 10188045)
So finally sat and completed the online testing tonight. Anyone have any idea how long it took for Airservices to let them know whether they'd passed or failed?

I kept in contact with one person who's been very helpful. She quoted it took 5 weeks for Airservices to update her on the outcome...

Hi im a newbie ..just wondering what's the difference between tower and enroute jobs. I have applied for the june one. After the online test..what does your portal show...online test completed only? Or are there any other messages. Thanks

Chopz 5th July 2018 22:54

Testing
 
Hi all,

What we're people's thoughts on the testing? Anyone not yet completed it?

Atc applicant 6th July 2018 09:12


Originally Posted by Chopz (Post 10189741)
Hi all,

What we're people's thoughts on the testing? Anyone not yet completed it?

i completed it but haven't hears anything yet

jazzycab 7th July 2018 03:48

I completed the online testing and checked on Thursday night - my message had changed to something along the lines of "you have been invited to complete the OPQ testing". When I logged back in on Friday, it had changed back to "Under Review".
I think that maybe with the mix-up with the link and the extension from the Wednesday to the Thursday deadline that there might have been some issue in the internal system. Hoping that we hear something soon! Good luck everyone else

Chopz 9th July 2018 02:21

Hi folks,

I checked online, my application status went from 'Online Testing Completed - under review' to just 'Online Testing Completed'.

Anyone know if this is good, bad or nothing important?

Atc applicant 9th July 2018 03:41

My one was never under review...it has been showing completed with a message saying..."you will be invited to the next stage of Opq's assessment in the next few weeks. Please ensure your email address is updated and correct."

no clues how long gotta wait though ..someone in this thread wrote 5 weeks 😂

jazzycab 9th July 2018 04:19

Testing Complete
 

Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen (Post 10191999)
Does your still say "under review"? I checked mine and it says "online testing completed". Whether this is any indication of passing, I do not know.

Mine also says testing complete and when I view my application there is a message saying I'll be invited to compete the OPQ assessments within the next few weeks.
This is the same message that I saw on Thursday evening, so hopefully it is an indication of passing, guess we'll see via email.

Chopz 9th July 2018 07:53


Originally Posted by jazzycab (Post 10192014)
Mine also says testing complete and when I view my application there is a message saying I'll be invited to compete the OPQ assessments within the next few weeks.
This is the same message that I saw on Thursday evening, so hopefully it is an indication of passing, guess we'll see via email.

Thanks for pointing that out to us. Mine actually states the same thing when I go into it.

My previous application from some years ago states 'Application Outcome', when I view application for that one it states something about reviewing the email they sent me.

I am quietly confident it is a good sign. Airservices recruitment seem pretty on the ball with the whole process and maintaining records and if you read the comment it seems pretty clear (verbal reasoning anyone?). Is there anyone on here that has applied who can see something different?

Atc applicant 10th July 2018 09:23

Thanks but did they just take out the phone interview stage? Or is it still there. Their website doesn't mention anything about the phone interview.

Dip_ATC 10th July 2018 11:12

They definitely removed the phone interview for the last few rounds of recruitment (instead they had an in person interview on the assessment day in Melbourne).

jazzycab 12th July 2018 05:25

Assessment Centre
 
No email, but I received a call, brief phone interview and off to the assessment centre at the end of the month. How did everyone else go?

Vandelayy 12th July 2018 11:50

Was the call from a private number out of curiosity?

jazzycab 12th July 2018 12:37


Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen (Post 10195018)
When did you sit the online test? Did you complete the OPQ?

I sat the online testing last Tuesday night (3 July) and still no OPQ as yet
​​​​

Originally Posted by Vandelayy (Post 10194993)
Was the call from a private number out of curiosity?

Yes, it was. I wasn't able to answer it though and they left a message
​​​​

jazzycab 12th July 2018 22:57


Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen (Post 10195431)
That's interesting that you haven't done the OPQ yet. Is this the 2nd time you've applied and thus completed the OPQ sometime in the past?

No, this is my first application, so not sure what the go is regarding the OPQ. Can anyone who has been through the process previously shed some light?

CapnCoastie 12th July 2018 23:40


Originally Posted by jazzycab (Post 10194731)
No email, but I received a call, brief phone interview and off to the assessment centre at the end of the month. How did everyone else go?

Hi jazzy, congrats on getting through to the next stage.
Across 2 forums, yours is so far the only report of any feedback or progress after the online testing. So now you've just made everyone even more anxious than they were already :p
*goes and checks phone and email another 7 times *


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