Hello everyone,

I booked stage 2 for the 15th of November. Anyone scheduled for the same day?

I have seen people asking over and over again what to expect from stage 2 but apparently I did not manage to find a proper answer following their questions. Could anyone who took part to a stage to provide me with some useful information please?

Thanks so much.

The most useful information is to study the booklet they send you, and arrive on time. The rest will be explained to you on the day.

Stage 3
 

Hi Can anyone who has done stage 3 tell me what both the competency based and the technical interview is like, what type of questions did they ask?
Thanks

Well, we can only give certain tips. Be calm and be honest! If you are unsure about something, tell them you are and give an answer for the question (remember to explain everything in a short by rich way, this way you will have time to answer everything).

Hi guys,

I'm gonna have the stage 2 tests on the 26th this month.
I passed all FEAST, DART and multi-pass with AustroControl two weeks ago but ****** up the interview.
Did anyone pass those before and applied for NATS and didn't have to do them again?
Also is it necessary to know all the speeds, altitudes etc. for the first test? I know many of them but don't wanna go there too stressed :-(

The ones who still have to do their tests wish you all good luck with them!!

Hi mich_65


I did my stage 2 about 1 month ago.


A guy at my assessment had also done a FEAST and DART test recently. He actually got taken out of the assessment day as you are not allowed to take these tests within 2 years of each other.


I don't think you will be allowed to do it. I would definitely double check as you may well be wasting your time

Hi storey23,

I can't apply with AustroControl ever again and I couldn't apply with another company if I would've failed those tests. But I passed them and they only didn't take me because of a reason that doesn't have to do with the job.
I've also spoken with eurocontrol and they confirmed that. I just can't do it with them because I will be over 25 when the course starts next year.

Would still be nice if someone else could state similar experiences?

Thanks :-)

Forgot to ask, I assume that guy failed the tests before?

Hi Mich_65,

Can you send me a PM or email?

Mc

FEAST/DART
 

Hey guys,
I am new to PPRuNe and thought I should post in this thread, I am about to send off my ATCO application to NATS and Eurocontrol but have heard that you can only take DART/ FEAST test once every 2 years, so if I take this test for the Eurocontrol application process, does that mean I will not be able to take it for my application to NATS or vice versa? :ugh:

Hey,
If you have for example the Eurocontrol test first and pass and in the end prefer to go on with NATS or Eurocontrol doesn't take you in the end there is no problem.
If you fail those tests with any of them you need to wait two years. Then you have one opportunity to repeat them.
:-) Good luck

Hey guys,


Could anyone provide any information on whether this new Multi control test is included in the FEAST 2 part except from the DART ?


Kind regards

I passed the written test and FEAST yesterday... but got the dreaded email this morning saying I'd failed DART.

If anyone's got ideas for other interesting aviation related careers (I have a mechanical engineering background, but not aviation related) please let me know. Sigh.

No, he passed..

Look on the bright side, at least you can apply again in a couple of years if ATC is still something that interests you.

I had my medical recently and found out I'm slightly colourblind, so I'm out for good.

Aww so sorry to hear that, especially as you did so well to be one of the 1 in 100 or so to get through. I guess it's only a bright side for me if I get through the second time!

I originally wanted to be a professional pilot, but I can only get a Class 2 medical (so I'm OK for ATC and private flying, but not commercial) so I know how it feels. That said, I honestly think not getting through these tests hurts more than being told I can't fly professionally; feeling like a failure isn't nice.

I felt FEAST was fine for me. Because of the number of questions in each section, you get a chance to get into the swing of it. DART ramps up in difficulty so quickly I didn't realise how much I needed to plan ahead before it was too late.

Can you tell me what multi-pass like in comparison?

Have you checked the part about the medical with NATS as I believe their requirements are more stringent than the CAA ones for an ATCO, or they were last time I really paid attention to them

Without wanting to give too much away, the multipass does require planning ahead and a lot of multitasking, though once you get a rhythm going everything generally runs quite smoothly. Everyone on the day seemed to find it easier than the DART.

And The Many Tentacles is right, you need a European Class 3 medical certificate for ATC (at least with NATS). If you can only get a Class 2, you might be in the same boat as me.

Unless it's changed recently, a Class 2 Medical is more stringent than a Class 3. Class 1 is the highest standard.
When I started, the ATCO requirement in The U.K. was Class 1, for both NATS and non-NATS ATCOs. The was the same as for a commercial pilot, but with slightly more leniency with regards to the frequency of re-examination.
I think the change to a Class 3 for ATCOs came during the mid-2000s?

If that's the case, this whole thing is a bit confusing. My report says I'm fit for EASA Class 1 and 2, fit for UK Class 1 but unfit for European Class 3. Maybe European Class 3 is more strict only on the colour vision requirements?

Correct, you can't really prepare for FEAST and DART.

With regard to the knowledge test, I would learn as much detail as you can. While I wouldn't describe the test as difficult, you can easily fail if you don't prepare properly.

Just got back home from my stage 2... I missed the knowledge check by 1 mark!!! Gutted and means I can't apply again for 2 more years :( I was confident going in and having re-read the pre-reads after I got out I missed a stupid mark by talking myself out of it! Very frustrated.

Hi frnds.
I am preparing for NATS exam . Can anyone who has preparation syllabus which they send for preparation..
Plzz send me on. [email protected]

Thanxxx

Hey!
Can anyone give any advice on how to revise for the stage 0 online application tests
Thanks :))

Freddie: this site has examples of what you'll encounter on the stage 0 test https://www.savilleconsulting.com/PracticeTests

Hello everyone, please can anybody give any examples as to what questions they ask on the knowledge test? They have quite a few aircraft facts and figures - how much of it do we really need to know?

And advice in general about the Stage 2 test would be greatly received, I am nervous! Thank you :-)

Hi Guys!
I have just been given a start date of 6th Feb next year!! Has anyone else who passed stage 3 heard anything yet?!

Guess what? I got that start date as well :D
If you want to add me on facebook, send me an email and I can send you my Facebook, will be helpful if we want to share a house or smth...

I am seeking information on training plans. Anyone able to help (sim hours for each discipline etc.) please pm (or point me in the direction, can't seem to find it by searching, if it is contained here).
Cheers.

For what reason? That type or information might very well be comercially sensitive.

Why? In order to get some idea if what we do in the country where I work is in the ball-park.
I understand the sensitive nature of the subject, but that very sensitivity makes it difficult to know where the bench marks are- nobody advertises this stuff.
The CAA is highly considered where I am, and am hoping for a contact.

Hi,

Myself and a colleague have been allocated this course date too.

I believe there are 15 allocated to the course.

Kind of excited and nervous at the same time! :D

Might want to delete your post then since he's deleted it and you kindly quoted it for him and left it for posterity

Hello,

I've just passed the Stage 1 NATS test, and have been told that there are currently no dates scheduled for the Stage 2 Assessment Day. Does anybody know how regularly they hold these? Do they just wait until there is enough demand before inviting people?

Thank you

Done! I didn't notice I quoted the whole thing...

Awesome!
Send me a message and I'll give you my email address if you want?

Hi i'm new here just about to do my application can anyone tell me how long roughly it will take before i start at the college? Thanks

Also any tips for what will look good on the cv?

Well, I sent my application in April and I have been invited to a training starting in April next year.
It really depends...

@MNAsantos I have also had the email today offering me an April start date! Very excited