Could someone who has recently sat stage two confirm whether or not the collision avoidance test is still used and also if the strip display management test is used. As I have read posts that claim both of these test are no longer part of the stage 2 assessment. However, the Internet is full of conflicting information.

Thank you.

Sigh, gonna have to reschedule the stage 2 as I can't get the time of my work to travel down from Scotland. Here comes the wait for another time slot :(

Stage 1 on 22nd for me
 

Hi guys, new to the forum and just wanted to ask a quick question to the more experienced.

I have my stage 1 assessment for the 22nd feb booked. I've been going over the booklet and the practise tests, but have seen a few people commenting about a maths test or maths element within the stage 1 tests. What tests are these as there is no reference to these in the booklets or instructions!

The only tests I am aware of is the knowledge learnt from the booklet, the spacial tests, diagraming and basic checking tests.

Any help would be massively appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Nick

I'm about to tackle that problem tomorrow and hopefully get a days holiday sorted out :)

Hey all,

Going over the booklet for the S1 ready for next Tuesday, i'm just wondering how people grouped the aircraft at the back for revision. Just going through them by page doesn't seem to be sticking as much as i'd hoped!

Thanks! :ok:

I got invited to do the stage one test, but the deadline to close recruitment is March and that's a bit short notice.
When is it likely to start again?

I can't find anything, is that definite?

Wanted to edit and deleted by mistake ! I asked where did you hear that and that I'll keep you up to date if I hear something on tweeter or linkedin , on forums or PM

you must have got something wrong I doubt they are shutting the applications again.

Maybe he didn't find any dates available in March and he presumed that the recruitment process will shut down again . Just speculating

most likely as there were about four dates available all for Feb when I was booking my S1. now by reading it again though I bet he means that those dates are on a short notice to attend a S1 rather then talking in terms of the whole application process. and yes, if you don't book any now more should come up eventually.

@up witam rodaka :)

@toom hej kolego :D

First I prioritised the Boeings, then when I was confident I was making progress I moved onto the Airbus’s, followed by the rest. When revising I find (for me personally) that I remember something better if I remember it as a list. Once they’re listed I then look for similarities or patterns, so essentially there’s less to remember. In the case with the Boeings it was easy as the higher their model the higher their stats (with the exception of the newer 737’s and the 747). Airbus’ were a little more difficult as their stats are more sporadic, however they do share a lot of stats (the A318,19,20 and 21 all have the same speed, the A330 & 40 share the same speed and cruising level ect).

Obviously everyone has different methods of revising/memorising but I would definitely recommend learning just a few at a time than trying to do them all in one go.

That's a great help, thank you. Thanks for pointing out a few similarities too, saved me some time!
Thanks again! :ok:

This might be of interest:
http://www.facebook.com/NATScareers?ref=ts&fref=ts

Would you know when recruitment resumes? I failed my stage 2 in November and it would be nice if they let me reapply again now since it's probably going to be a while before they take students again.

Cheers!

I know nothing more than what's on the page I linked, but you can always ask them.

there are also rumours abound that the wait between applications is being extended to 24 months, not 12.

Either way, chances of them letting you re-apply early? Non-existant I'm afraid :ugh:

Rumours, which I heard first hand from the Head of "Specialist Recruitment" as they call themselves ;)

This could well be part of the new system CV has mentioned above.

Phil

P.S. All you chaps already working for NATS, it's good to see you are still hanging around here to lend a hand. ;)

Will these mean all stages of the application process will be frozen or simply new applications?

Alex

Stage 1 spatial reasoning tests (cubes)
 

Hello Guys and Gals

Just a quick question and apologies if this is in repitition to a previous thread. For those of you who have completed the stage 1 NATS test, Would you be so kind as to answer this question please.

I understand that stage 1 part 2 consists of questions relating to cubes and diagramming. I've gathered that the cube questions are answered as multiple choice. Could you please tell me whether the multiple choice answers consist of one right answer, and the rest wrong, or one wrong answer and the rest right. Putting it in simple terms. Do we need to ascertain which option is right or wrong from the options provided.

I apologise in advance if any of you lovely people regard this as cheating. Good Luck to all those who have applied, at whatever stage.

:ok:

have you ever known a multiple choice test to have only 1 wrong answer and the rest all correct??? If so - that kind of makes an easy test format even easier, surely?!

You can probably guess what the answer to your question is from my response....

sambatc

I understand your line of questioning. There are two apps that I'm currently using (skytest and spatial IQ). Both use different approaches to test their users. From your message, I guess I can surmise that the skytest cube test meets the methods employed by NATS.

How many questions address each diagram? Is there one question for each 2d cube diagram?

Didn't get past stage 2... oh well, time to move on with my life and find something else to aspire towards :)

@pearlz go back some pages on this forum you will find all relevant information regarding recent stage one assessment.

regarding the recruitment freeze NATS will continue to process all successful applicants but they will stop recruiting new applicants as from 1st of March.

I have got my stage one booked for 22nd of this month in Birmingham. Reading the NATS literature sent with the e-mail and doing some practice tests. I was wondering, and I know it has been mentioned on here somewhere but for the life of me I can't find it, is there an alternative site to Skytest as I use a Macbook and I won't have time to sort out a copy of Windows and get the practice in before my test?

If anyone has got a useful suggestion for websites I would be very grateful.

Also, does anyone happen to know just how far Birmingham New Street station is to the Novotel on Broad Street. Got to be back in Chester straight after for work. Not ideal, but there we go.

Thanks again.

This is part of the email I received on the 12th
"

Please note, due to the introduction of a new recruiting system we will be freezing recruitment in March 2013, any candidates who have not attend a Stage One assessment centre by this date will have to wait until the new recruitment process re-opens again to attend an assessment. You can keep updated on our progress by visiting our website or social media pages. "

Richard, 2 weeks (ish) to prepare for Stage 1 is, in my opinion, plenty. A few hours a night, maybe more at the weekends if you're concerned, and if you're of the right sort of intelligence for the job then you'll be fine. Get yourself booked for something at the end of Feb or you'll regret it!

@FL370,

thanks for that mate, appreciate it.

Well lads , it's official , the waiting time is now 24 month REGARDLESS of the date you have failed . To be more clear :

- if you sat your online basic in september 2012 you can reaplly in september 2014 .

So the rules comes in play for ALL candidates , not only for those applying after the 1st of April .

That being said , congratulations to all who applied and went all the way through , good luck with training , OJT and validation and with your wonderful career.

As for me , I'm outta here . I think 29 y.o. it's a good age to stick to my current career . Adam Tusk OVER AND OUT

http://www.psychometric-success.com/...20Test%201.pdf

I'd also try the skytest lite app which costs £13.00 and the spacial IQ test. Good Luck

tfl - Google Maps

The above should help you find your way across Birmingham. Its approx 15 mins walk from New st to Broad st.

Heres a link for psychometric tests which I've posted previously, but this will save you from searching the forum:

http://www.psychometric-success.com/...20Test%201.pdf

I'm also attending a Stage 1 assessment booked for 1500hrs at Novotel on the 22nd. Good Luck! :ok:

Hello guys... Is there anyone on 22 at 11 in Bham?!

Top tips for Stage 1:

The 'pass mark' for each test is more of a trade off between speed and accuracy. For example, the 'cubes' test has 40 questions in 20 minutes.

On this basis, if you completed 40/40 questions and got half wrong, you'd fail the test (Poor accuracy)

If you completed 35/40 and got 5 questions wrong you'd pass. (Good trade off)

If you completed 20/40 questions and got them all correct, you'd fail. (Poor speed)

Similarly, with regards to the 'diagramming' test, it works on the same logic, but a bit more room for error I believe.

On this basis if you completed the whole test 50/50 questions and got up to 35-40 questions correct, you'd pass. (Good trade off)

If you completed 20/50 questions and got them all correct, you'd fail. (Very poor speed)

Hope this helps.

Hello guys,

I'm going to attend my S1 on 21st on Sheffield at 9am. I'm flying from Portugal to Stansted and then take the coach to Sheffield. I'm going on the 20th and will stay at the Ibis.

Anyone else going on the 20th who wants to meet up or something?

Pearlz, that's superb thank you.

Off into Waterstones today as well to try and find some books to take to work.

I've got my S1 at 10am. Would have preferred to have been later but need to make sure I am back in time for work.

This is probably the only chance I am going to get to apply for this so the nerves are starting to get to me already. Like everyone else who has applied I'm sure, I really want this.

Just hope worrying about it all doesn't cost me.

Afternoon folks!:)

I booked my S1 yesterday for this coming Friday at the Novotel Birmingham, at 11am. Hopefully I finish at 1pm and not beforehand!:\:eek:

Travelling down from Glasgow by train on the Thursday afternoon so that I'll (hopefully) have enough time and a relaxing journey - particularly if it's snowing and the trains are all delayed to :mad:

Like everyone else who has their S1s next week, I'm nervous as hell. Nerves are good though. Well, so they say!:confused:

I'm just reading through the NATS leaflet and trying to absorb it in, as much as possible. As for the spatial awareness/cubes tests, I downloaded a brilliant app on my android this morning. Search for "spatial reasoning" on the Google Play store and the free app should be at the top of the list. It's addictive as hell, and excellent at brushing up on solving the horrendous cubes.

Burning out the app and reading through the NATS stuff is what I'll be doing from now until next Friday morning!

Good luck to everyone who has their S1s next week (and also S2s/S3s!). Wise words I've been told: if you don't make it, then it's not the end of the world!:ok:


GB:)

After reading through all of the very helpful advice on the forum I have finally decided to join. Have booked my Stage 1 test for 1pm on 21st Feb at the Novotel in Sheffield.

I will be going down on the 20th Feb and staying overnight at the Novotel so I would be happy to meet up with anyone who will be there too. Just leave a message or PM me.

Best of luck to everyone taking their Stage 1 tests.

Hey guys, im all booked in for stage 1 on the 22nd at Birmingham. Im now feeling nervous :( lol any tips would be greatly appreciated. I have went over the information leaflet at least 20 times. Ive taking the majority of it in but struggling remembering all the aircraft speeds, seating capacity etc. Anyways anyone else heading out on the 22nd and Birmingham and have their test at 9am? Good Luck to all!!!!

Heading up the night before from glasgoww btw :)

Hi Everyone

I am new to this forum also, have my first assessment day on the 22nd at Bham also - good luck to everyone else also attending! I am currently revising the booklet provided and practising the examples provided. Whilst reading through this thread i see talk of a numeracy test and a basic checking test at stage 1 however I have no mention of these on my e-mail from NATS. Do these tests still exsist at stage 1 and can anyone please advise on how best to prepare if they do? any help/advice/tips about stage 1 would be much appreciated and thanks so much to everyone who has already posted on the forum all info has been very useful and informative! Thanks again :)