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Rwy1234 1st Jan 2018 07:06

Not sure.

The ‘lady’ I know of has been at Wycombe many years.


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10006747)
I wonder if she is one of the ones who've 'used' Safeskys when they have had a better job offer with conditions. One joined and got Safeskys to pay for an APC, then p1ssed off elsewhere when they'd passed it, obviously had the other job lined up already when they went to Wycombe.


off watch 1st Jan 2018 07:13

Judging by the Prestwick Notams, if you've got Aerodrome & Approach Radar ratings, you could start tomorrow .....

Buster the Bear 1st Jan 2018 20:24


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10006747)
I wonder if she is one of the ones who've 'used' Safeskys when they have had a better job offer with conditions. One joined and got Safeskys to pay for an APC, then p1ssed off elsewhere when they'd passed it, obviously had the other job lined up already when they went to Wycombe.

I assume that no bonding was added to the contract?

Gonzo 1st Jan 2018 21:54


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10007592)
I assume that no bonding was added to the contract?

Or perhaps she’s a Prospect member and heard what had happened elsewhere?

360BakTrak 2nd Jan 2018 12:29


Originally Posted by off watch (Post 10007023)
Judging by the Prestwick Notams, if you've got Aerodrome & Approach Radar ratings, you could start tomorrow .....

Are they advertising? I can't see an advert on their own website or flight global.......are they really that desperate?

Cleared For A Coffee 2nd Jan 2018 13:08


Originally Posted by 360BakTrak (Post 10008085)
Are they advertising? I can't see an advert on their own website or flight global.......are they really that desperate?

Most units seem desperate... especially those not paying what the market demands... (no idea what PK pay so generally speaking)

zygote 2nd Jan 2018 13:18

It's a 'he' and not a 'she'
 
I wonder if she is one of the ones who've 'used' Safeskys when they have had a better job offer with conditions. One joined and got Safeskys to pay for an APC, then p1ssed off elsewhere when they'd passed it, obviously had the other job lined up already when they went to Wycombe.

No 'she's' from WAP have used 'safeskys when they have had a better job offer with conditions'.

Maybe it's a 'he'.

off watch 2nd Jan 2018 13:57

In the current climate regarding vacancies, I suspect PIK are just being pragmatic. After all, if you wanted to work there, wouldn't you just contact their HR department & ask ? No point in spending money on adverts when, as Cleared for a Coffee says, everyone is desperate to recruit. In any case, given the uncertainty of the airport's future at present, would you give up your present job to go there without a particular reason ?

Rwy1234 2nd Jan 2018 20:14

Nope, the one I know of is definitely a she. If you think it’s a ‘he’ then maybe there are two different candidates!


Originally Posted by zygote (Post 10008130)
I wonder if she is one of the ones who've 'used' Safeskys when they have had a better job offer with conditions. One joined and got Safeskys to pay for an APC, then p1ssed off elsewhere when they'd passed it, obviously had the other job lined up already when they went to Wycombe.

No 'she's' from WAP have used 'safeskys when they have had a better job offer with conditions'.

Maybe it's a 'he'.


alfaman 3rd Jan 2018 16:06


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10007592)
I assume that no bonding was added to the contract?

Bonding is a red herring anyway; paying off someones bond is cheaper than training your own ATCO.

Svx 13th Jan 2018 16:53

Anyone know where ATCO jobs at Birmingham pop up these days, best to contact the airport directly?

good egg 18th Jan 2018 05:57

Prestwick (again)

BigDaddyBoxMeal 18th Jan 2018 13:20


Originally Posted by Svx (Post 10018747)
Anyone know where ATCO jobs at Birmingham pop up these days, best to contact the airport directly?

They advertised at the beginning of December for ATCOs. They usually advertise on the airport’s own website given they are the ANSP.

Probably always worth getting in touch with any unit though; given most have advertised in the last year and the shortage doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

ZOOKER 18th Jan 2018 19:23

Prestwick good egg?

Centre or airport?

I quite fancy that.

Also, I heard a rumour today that 6 EGGP ATCOS are shortly moving east to EGCC?

cossack 18th Jan 2018 19:49


Originally Posted by ZOOKER (Post 10023962)
Also, I heard a rumour today that 6 EGGP ATCOS are shortly moving east to EGCC?

What, not enough Nats controllers available? Sounds like something that happened over 20 years ago that was fought by the union.:=

BigDaddyBoxMeal 18th Jan 2018 20:05


Originally Posted by cossack (Post 10023985)
What, not enough Nats controllers available? Sounds like something that happened over 20 years ago that was fought by the union.:=

This being the same NATS that is so short of training capacity it is sending a course of TATCs to complete a basic course in Spain?

And if a post elsewhere on this forum is to be believed, the TATCs are required to pay a weekly supplement towards the costs in Spain. THAT sounds like something union would have fought 20 years ago, and you would hope they'd be all over right now..... :=

good egg 18th Jan 2018 20:25


Originally Posted by ZOOKER (Post 10023962)
Prestwick good egg?

Centre or airport?

I quite fancy that.

Also, I heard a rumour today that 6 EGGP ATCOS are shortly moving east to EGCC?

The airport

cossack 18th Jan 2018 21:15

Still keeping that powder dry, eh?

chevvron 19th Jan 2018 03:23


Originally Posted by ZOOKER (Post 10023962)
Prestwick good egg?

Centre or airport?

I quite fancy that.

Also, I heard a rumour today that 6 EGGP ATCOS are shortly moving east to EGCC?

Prestwick Airport hasn't been NATS for many years now.
Didn't know they even had 6 at Liverpool.

jumpseater 19th Jan 2018 07:11


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10024258)
Didn't know they even had 6 at Liverpool.

:hmm: You should get out a bit more, they've got around 30 at LPL

obwan 19th Jan 2018 15:09

I,m guessing chevvron has never ventured north of Watford. Like most of them dahn sarf thinks there's no aviation goes on oop north.

chevvron 19th Jan 2018 15:17

If you wanna be like that, I landed at Unst (furthest north airport in the UK) in a Loganair Islander during a 4 week detachment to Sumburgh during which I also visted Foula(most isolated airfield in the UK).
I've also been to the Stadium of Light; do you know in Washington on the A1, you're almost in the Arctic yet there are still signs saying 'To the North'.

chevvron 19th Jan 2018 15:21


Originally Posted by Cripes (Post 10024505)
I'm surprised EGGP doesn't have it's own thread! 6 in one go is a heck of a lot to lose at once.

On an ATCO Cadet course just before mine (21 Course I think) all who graduated were posted to LATCC West Drayton. 6 resigned on the spot.

ZOOKER 19th Jan 2018 17:24

I know 2 of them from EGNX, chevvron. I know 'PK hasn't been NATS for a while, can you remember when it changed? We were talking about it recently up here. It was one of the aerodromes I put on my posting preference form. I hope it has a future, along with Blackpool.

Eric T Cartman 19th Jan 2018 18:14

PIK took over ATC services from NATS on 1 April 1993 (I started there on 12th July 1993 - there was a nice band wearing orange sashes & bowler hats out in the street to greet me - well, I assume that's what they were there for ! ... ;-) ;-)

obwan 19th Jan 2018 18:48

It,s known as the Stadium Of Despair now

chevvron 20th Jan 2018 02:46


Originally Posted by obwan (Post 10025076)
It,s known as the Stadium Of Despair now

As we were visiting team supporters (Fulham), we were given a police escort from the service area in Washington all the way to the stadium; motor bike outriders who went on ahead stopping other traffic at roundabouts and traffic lights and waving us through like we were Royalty!
Chatting to one of the 'bikers' before we left, he told us it was the only time they got overtime paid so they liked to 'push the boat out'.

obwan 20th Jan 2018 07:14

Perfect example of northern hospitality and good fellowship

chevvron 20th Jan 2018 12:38


Originally Posted by obwan (Post 10025487)
Perfect example of northern hospitality and good fellowship

Sunderland supporters were very friendly too; we chatted to one or two whilst in the queue for roast pork baps.

mikk_13 21st Jan 2018 12:07

They will take applications for 2 weeks only.

https://www.iaa.ie/careers/current-v...ic-controllers

Starting date is 2 weeks after they receive your cv.

Can't imagine many going if the germans are also taking ready entries

Svx 21st Jan 2018 13:03


Originally Posted by BigDaddyBoxMeal (Post 10023576)
They advertised at the beginning of December for ATCOs. They usually advertise on the airport’s own website given they are the ANSP.

Probably always worth getting in touch with any unit though; given most have advertised in the last year and the shortage doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

Ah thank you, yes I see it now from a previous page in the thread. Looks like I've just missed the boat annoyingly, the airport seem rather reluctant to respond directly about vacancies of that nature.

247 22nd Jan 2018 09:06


Originally Posted by cossack (Post 10023985)
What, not enough Nats controllers available? Sounds like something that happened over 20 years ago that was fought by the union.:=

Unfortunately nowadays we couldn’t fight our way out of a wet paper bag :ugh:

Glamdring 24th Jan 2018 17:32

I've heard that Dublin are looking for experienced controllers. Anybody got more info?

chevvron 25th Jan 2018 01:28


Originally Posted by ZOOKER (Post 10023962)

Also, I heard a rumour today that 6 EGGP ATCOS are shortly moving east to EGCC?

Unlikely as it's tower/GMC only nowadays since Man. Sub Centre moved away.

Crazy Voyager 25th Jan 2018 04:22

Not sure which unit you were referring to but Liverpool is Aerodrome and approach, with both Liverpool and Doncaster approach on site.

Manchester is aerodrome and approach radar, with Manchester radar on site. The area sectors moved out but Manchester radar is still done locally.

chevvron 25th Jan 2018 08:49


Originally Posted by Crazy Voyager (Post 10030841)
Not sure which unit you were referring to but Liverpool is Aerodrome and approach, with both Liverpool and Doncaster approach on site.

Manchester is aerodrome and approach radar, with Manchester radar on site. The area sectors moved out but Manchester radar is still done locally.

Sorry I assumed Man Approach had gone to Scotland.

Nimmer 25th Jan 2018 12:01

The starting sentence of many an incident "I assumed"!!!

ZOOKER 25th Jan 2018 13:34

chevvron, as Crazy says, Manch' approach is still at EGCC as far as I'm aware. Unless of course there are new plans afoot to re-locate it to Ayrshire?

obwan 25th Jan 2018 14:48

Mr Zooker wash your mouth out

m99 25th Jan 2018 20:19


Originally Posted by Glamdring (Post 10030438)
I've heard that Dublin are looking for experienced controllers. Anybody got more info?

https://flyinginireland.com/2018/01/...c-controllers/


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