Update on vacancies
 

Just wondering where the latest ATCO vacancies are? Anyone able to update?

In no particular order;

Baghdad
Isle of Man
Glasgow (NATS)
Baghdad
Farnborough (NATS)
Dubai Approach
Dubai Tower (DXB)
Baghdad
Birmingham
Dubai World (DWC)
East Midlands (Unless recent positions filled?)

Did I mention Baghdad?

Any Tower/Approach Procedural not openly advertising?

Toronto Tower (CYYZ)
http://ca.indeed.com/cmp/NAV-CANADA/...0?q=Nav+Canada

Prestwick
Carlisle

Alderney
Norwich
Newquay

I notice that according to the Newquay job's person spec that a 'sense of humour' is desirable.

Probably need that when they tell you the salary at the interview...........:E

When I meet ATCOs from other units the one constant is that they're understaffed and unable to attract people to fill the empty seats. Absolutely everywhere - military, civil, centres, towers, home and abroad. I keep expecting it to blow, but somehow the creaky system keeps on scraping through.

Ain't that the truth

Wycombe Air Park

Gatwick and Edinburgh with ANS."Other" Airports with Nats as well as Glasgow and Farnborough....Someone mention Baghdad?

Gatwick no longer looking

Thanks All - Toronto sounds good. Saw one on LinkedIn for an airport in Kent today

Does anyone know if Nav Canada consider European applicants?

There was big batch of UK ATCO's who went to NAVCANADA 10 -15 Years or so ago under their Experienced ATCO program they were running at the time. I don't think they considered it a success and have not repeated it since a lot came back I believe. There was also a handful of guys who went out on a separate thing and I know one of them them is still there at London Ontario airport.

There are UK Controllers on their way to Canada very shortly.

At least 1 is already there......

360BackTrack

.....and at least one has returned disillusioned to the UK.

How recently TCAS FAN?

Plenty still here though. I arrived in 2003. About half a dozen or so still in Toronto ACC.
The current recruitment is for Toronto Tower only. The Experienced Controller Program will not be resurrected.

I hear from everyone in air traffic I talk to (UK) that almost all units are short staffed, en route and tower. Where will all the replacements come from? Is the Nats college, or other atc colleges, churning out lots of trainees? Or is there some technology around the corner that will allow a big reduction in staffing levels? If not, then why aren't the airports more worried about this?

I hear that a lot. But what's the end game? There must come a point when all their airports and centres are shutting from time to time due to lack of staff.

Controllers are expensive. Why would you want any more than what's absolutely necessary? It's more financially beneficial to cover any shortfall with AAVAs and deal with the odd traffic regulation.

All ok till you alienate your workforce to not even want to do AAVAs any more! :ugh: and then the odd traffic regulation becomes shutting London approaches on an unprecedented basis. But hey, if that's what you guys call efficiency who are we to judge! :hmm:

Regulation for staffing? Now there's a novel idea. Same flow rate for 7 on shift or 10, just the runway configuration is different and the line ups are longer.

Possibly Cossack, but NOT the same rate for one staff member instead of three...

At smaller units, controllers are already rostered to work up to the SRATCOH maximum so AAVAs simply aren't possible without exceeding SRATCOH hours.

Thinks - is Squawk 7500 management by any chance?

I never worked a single minute of overtime in my whole career and I would not on principle.

If 7500 is not already in a management position then he is well on the way. From the year dot I have not worked at a unit where there was not always a last minute scrabbling around for new staff when somebody in management woke up to the fact that Joe Bloggs was retiring at the end of the month or somebody had gone long term sick. Nobody seems to have worked out that even if you manage to hire an experienced controller it's going to be at LEAST 6 months before they are going to fill the position. I don't why I am surprised, the whole country is run by a complete bunch of amateurs

Yeah look at Farnborough; I retired 8 years ago and they still haven't trained my replacement(s), still operating bandboxed and short of staff!
(You all thought I was joking when I said it would take 3 controllers to replace me didn't you)

@chevron,
How than you explain that airport still works? ( not to correlate date where we will see that traffic increased in last 8 years since you retired)
And it will exactly explain how it works worldwide.
And what is more important traffic is more safe than 8 years ago ( otherwise there wouldn't have been increase)
Thing, that affraids me, is that even lost of lives is not enough to change. To quote friend of mine " System will not allow attacks on itself"

I recently went to a local motor sport event and there was 5 other fellow NATS/Aberdeen retirees there including an ex GM.Never seen such a happy bunch.

NATS and the Unions over the last 20 plus years have stripped away at staff numbers,Pension changing to DC,Increased BS generally,and pay regrading in the downwards direction at the lower band units.Also plugging the shortfall with AVAAs which is a sticking plaster on a gunshot wound.
Good luck NATS in recruiting the next generation of skilled controllers that have propped up the fading empire.

I'm not management!! Just forgot to add some of these at the end of my last post :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

The airport still works because the staff which are left pull their fingers out & make it work - because they are enthusiasts , extremely capable & hard working. But, none of this owes anything to the management, who really ought to get what they truly deserve !

And don't forget they only have Class G airspace; the only 'protection' is a unique to the UK 'aerodrome traffic zone' of 2.5 nm radius up to 2000ft aal and all vectoring is done outside this.

7500,

It's ok, maybe it will take 5 people to replace you when you retire? :ok:

You can add Jersey & Hawarden to that list...

Vectoring in Class G
 

Chevvron,

NPA 2016-09 'Requirements for Air Traffic Services' may force a change regarding Commercial Air Transport and vectoring in Class G...... The UK will need an altMoc........

throw a dyce - I couldn't agree more. I'm just grateful I'm retired - and I never thought I would hear myself say that. Sad times for UK ATC.