Hial time bomb ticking
 

Please God spare us that!

In terms of Air Traffic Services however, the Hial vessel may very well be holed below the water line. With the number of ATCO vacancies which have been appearing in Flight lately, there are certainly 2 or 3 and possibly as many as half a dozen Hial Atcos with very itchy feet.

Shame really. The Inverness Radar debacle looks like it might ruin what was once a happy place to work.

Management are not in a position to treat ATS staff the way they have been of late. Hial is not a call centre, nor a bus depot and certainly not a military organisation. By the time the new management regime come to their senses, it'll probably be too late though.

Coventry, Liverpool, Ronaldsway.......take note!

I was only being sarcastic; I nearly said the 'S' word!

HIAL Radar.
 

Well said Highland Director. :D I hope someone from HIAL management reads these lines and realises the way things are going. The controllers at Inverness probably work at one of the busiest procedural units in UK, certainly at weekends. Additionally over the years having followed some of the threads on their Radar agreement with Lossiemouth they have probably made a difficult match work. It is a great shame when Radar is eventually coming to this airfield that management have not recognised the endeavours of all their staff to the degree of causing so much unrest!:ugh:

As for Gisajob would he have anyone to put in place? He's been very quiet of late.

Gisajob,;) ;) ;) ;) :8 :8 :8 :cool: :cool: :cool: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:
Comon Gissa where are you.Got any ATC contracts lately?:rolleyes:

HD,
As I say experienced approach radar controllers are very hard to come by.If you guys decide to look elsewhere then good luck mate:D
We look across to the west there and often it's :mad: I don't like the look of that.
Far too much military around.On radar you'll C:mad: ap yourself.:ok:

That's why I avoided the 'S' word; SERCo don't seem to have too many radar rated ATCO's for airfields, and where they do, they seem to discourage them from actually using radar, presumably so that ADC and APP can be done by the one controller.
As a 'radar only' approach controller, I have a great deal of respect for 'procedural onlys' considering the amount of traffic they can shift without radar.

But surely the plan was to introduce controlled airspace as well as radar? Without CAS, as you say TAD, controllers will often look at the screen and wish they didn't have radar because they'll have to vector their traffic all over the place. With a procedural service ignorance is bliss!
Anyone know what's happening to the Inverness CAS proposal?
NS

Probably delayed because the main objectors to CAS will be the military, considering the proximity of Lossie and Kinloss.

Sweet irony!

HIAL Radar
 

But does Lossiemouth Radar really want to continue doing the Inverness Radar task as Inverness becomes busier? Depending on what Airspace dimensions are decided on will depend on how restrictive the Military will see the perspective of airspace restrictions?
Additionally who will eventually do the LARS task?

Inverness Staff
 

Hi Happ1ness

You are spot on. This is/was an ideal opportunity for both HIAL and Safeskys to develop Inverness. We are the easijet of the ATC world. Quality low cost operations which deliver. Sadly HIAL did not include us in the bidding process (too late they said) and Marshalls (with Chris Stock) will manage their transition to a radar environment.

The UK ATC contracting world is a real 'Catch 22' situation (as Gibraltar, Wattisham, Birmingham and Gloucester have shown). In all of those airport contracts Safeskys was invited to bid, was totally technically compliant at the lowest price, yet we have never been awarded our due prize.

Who is missing out here? The eventual payers for the services, the airports and most important for the readers of this site, the ATCOs who would have been recruited and encouraged by a company which is managed by ATCOs (not bean counters), and which understands ATCOs and would treat them properly.

HIAL Radar
 

Gisajob I think chevvron mentioned you first in this thread. Any mention of the "S" word is I trust totally said in jest !!!!!!

Hial Radar
 

So Highland Director have the lifeboats been launched or are the pumps holding their own !!!

Best of luck to all at EGPE !!!:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :)

Some of us are old enough to remember Highland Radar. With typical aviation logic it was based at RAF Buchan!
NS

Hial Radar
 

Yes indeed NorthSouth would that have been in the day's when the North Scottish sector was all procedural and life was good for all of us ????
Remember it well!:)

and BEA Viscounts used their registrations as callsigns...

GAMON & GAMOG happy days !!!!

Ah well you've got me there LTG, I only go back as far as G-AOHG

G-AMON & G-AMOG were Cambrian when they operated the Prestwick feeders to EGPH/EGAA and were in BOAC colours [I think].

Yes true the EGPH carried on up to Sumburgh if I remember correctly.:)