Speed restrictions on a SID
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Speed restrictions on a SID
LCY has recently produced a set of RNAV SIDS.
The BPK departures off both ends have a 200kt limit around the first couple of corners, understandably, so pilots don't overshoot the turns. Then once established inbound to BPK the 09 end says Max speed 250kts, whilst the 27 end restricts to 200kts all the way to BPK. My assumption is it's a typo but alas we adhere to it.
Recently, a few colleagues have been saying that once you're given further climb from London (above 3000ft) the speed restrictions can be forgotten. I've always assumed that they're in place until you reach the point at which they marked on the chart ie. BPK.
Does anybody know the answer, and perhaps, even more helpfully, where it can be found?
The BPK departures off both ends have a 200kt limit around the first couple of corners, understandably, so pilots don't overshoot the turns. Then once established inbound to BPK the 09 end says Max speed 250kts, whilst the 27 end restricts to 200kts all the way to BPK. My assumption is it's a typo but alas we adhere to it.
Recently, a few colleagues have been saying that once you're given further climb from London (above 3000ft) the speed restrictions can be forgotten. I've always assumed that they're in place until you reach the point at which they marked on the chart ie. BPK.
Does anybody know the answer, and perhaps, even more helpfully, where it can be found?
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With apologies to the Late Andrew Sachs....I know narthing...
Not helpful, I know. Always was a dangerous SID-busting neck of the woods. Didn't help with DET SIDs and ALKIN STARs conflicting over the appropriately-named Gravesend. Separation by intervention. Most dangerous sector I ever had to validate on. Glad to see the back of it. Other mugs can deal with all that.
Not helpful, I know. Always was a dangerous SID-busting neck of the woods. Didn't help with DET SIDs and ALKIN STARs conflicting over the appropriately-named Gravesend. Separation by intervention. Most dangerous sector I ever had to validate on. Glad to see the back of it. Other mugs can deal with all that.
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I believe that the new ICAO SID/STAR phraseologies would very simply clear up any misunderstanding on this point.
Sample here
Although globally, implementation is very slow. The UK say no action until end 2017.
So in late 2017 maybe the confusion will be cleared up.
I know things take time - but this proposal had been around for some time before it was formally published by ICAO.
Sample here
Although globally, implementation is very slow. The UK say no action until end 2017.
So in late 2017 maybe the confusion will be cleared up.
I know things take time - but this proposal had been around for some time before it was formally published by ICAO.
Last edited by sheepless; 16th Dec 2016 at 22:03.
