LHR Tower - distorted?
My Lord...
HD, he made a simple statement / question about a possible issue with the frequency. For so many reasons your reply sounds ridiculous (and petty). Not the least of which is the idiocy of that particular law in these days.
BTW... Did you know it's illegal to carry a piece of wood along any pavement in London?
HD, he made a simple statement / question about a possible issue with the frequency. For so many reasons your reply sounds ridiculous (and petty). Not the least of which is the idiocy of that particular law in these days.
BTW... Did you know it's illegal to carry a piece of wood along any pavement in London?
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my lord...
Hd, he made a simple statement / question about a possible issue with the frequency. For so many reasons your reply sounds ridiculous (and petty). Not the least of which is the idiocy of that particular law in these days.
Btw... Did you know it's illegal to carry a piece of wood along any pavement in london?
Hd, he made a simple statement / question about a possible issue with the frequency. For so many reasons your reply sounds ridiculous (and petty). Not the least of which is the idiocy of that particular law in these days.
Btw... Did you know it's illegal to carry a piece of wood along any pavement in london?
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I love it when people question the reason someone is listening to a frequency, yet anyone can go online and see the exact postion, altitude, speed, squawk, etc etc off almost any commercial (and non commercial) aircraft online and for free. The WT act of yesteryear is very very out of date.
I love it when people question the reason someone is listening to a frequency, yet anyone can go online and see the exact postion, altitude, speed, squawk, etc etc off almost any commercial (and non commercial) aircraft online and for free. The WT act of yesteryear is very very out of date.
The "B" is ADS-B stands for Broadcast - the WT Act doesn't place any restrictions on listening to broadcast transmissions. Otherwise it would be illegal to listen to Radio One (although arguably it should be anyway
)Transmissions between aircraft and ATC aren't broadcasts and therefore are subject to the WTA.
That's why there are no LiveATC.net feeds from the UK, but any number of flight tracking sites.
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But that is my point. Why are we still constrained by the WTA when it comes to listening to / rebroadcasting ATC (unless you're the BBC and somehow get away with it), when we can identify nearly every aircraft anyway?
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When I was a young lad of about 13 I used to watch the Heathrow traffic from my bedroom window with binoculars and listening to ATC on my Sharp airband radio. I also sometimes took a 5p bus ride to LHR and stayed all day spotting from the Queens Building.
It was an innocent hobby and we openly listened in to ATC. We were unknowingly breaking the law apparently but nobody cared. This innocent hobby led to my Aviation career. Twelve years in the RAF as an AATC and then to work at LGW since then.
I do quite often listen in to JFK Tower / Ground transmissions on ATC Live. It can be interesting at times. Such a great shame that it is still deemed illegal in the UK. The world should be allowed to listen to our dedicated and highly professional UK controllers, as they are some of the best in the world.
The WTA is way out of date and needs to be amended. I think it should be legal to listen to, but not to act on what you hear.
The current law makes the UK seem backward and old fashioned these days!
It was an innocent hobby and we openly listened in to ATC. We were unknowingly breaking the law apparently but nobody cared. This innocent hobby led to my Aviation career. Twelve years in the RAF as an AATC and then to work at LGW since then.
I do quite often listen in to JFK Tower / Ground transmissions on ATC Live. It can be interesting at times. Such a great shame that it is still deemed illegal in the UK. The world should be allowed to listen to our dedicated and highly professional UK controllers, as they are some of the best in the world.
The WTA is way out of date and needs to be amended. I think it should be legal to listen to, but not to act on what you hear.
The current law makes the UK seem backward and old fashioned these days!
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Bizarre and outdated legislation. Me being cleared to close the Localiser from the right isn't and shouldn't be a protected state secret.
Although I do appreciate Gonzo's points. Soon after most aviation incidents in America the news channels broadcast the ATC transcripts and often make rather silly assumptions and poor interpretations.
Although I do appreciate Gonzo's points. Soon after most aviation incidents in America the news channels broadcast the ATC transcripts and often make rather silly assumptions and poor interpretations.
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HD You really are an old curmudgeon.
And what authority do you have to listen to it?
A place where pilots may enter the 'lions den' that is Air Traffic Control in complete safety and find out the answers to all those obscure topics which you always wanted to know the answer to but were afraid to ask.