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Old 25th Apr 2013, 14:44
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The primary radar is NOTAMed as unserviceable until tomorrow afternoon (Friday 26th). I've noticed it hasn't been turning a few times this week. Does anyone know if the shutdowns are for routine maintenance or if something unscheduled has cropped up which requires attention ?

Makes me wonder as this particular radar (Watchman) was installed in late 1989. That is quite long in the tooth in my opinion. Quite a few UK airports with similar-age legacy radars have now replaced them with the likes of the Selex and Raytheon machines, although I know the Manchester Watchman has a bit of time left yet. Perhaps the Leeds Watchman is beginning to show its age. I don't know really, just asking.
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Cor, I wonder how much they want for it!
It's a baby compared to ours!
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Is legacy management yukspeak for old?

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Sheds,
Yes it is apparently. It is management yukspeak for a successful and reliable enterprise. Some oik jumped down my throat a few months ago on the spotters' forum when I asked what a 'legacy-airline' was.
The Forth Bridge, Eiffel Tower and The Houses Of Parliament are legacy structures.
The Bank Of England and Lloyds Of London are legacy institutions.
And so on and so forth....

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Does that make an old Lexus a Legacy Legacy?
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Wot you mean a Subaru Legacy? Anyone still got an AR1 or AR15 in use? I'm sure talkdownman would like one of those even if he can't have the Leeds Watchman.

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Old 26th Apr 2013, 09:44
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Manchester have just had a new Raytheon installed which is still being commissioned. Maybe EGCC can sell their Watchman to EGNM. Cheap obviously!
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They would probably have difficulty understanding it at Yeadon as it is a Lancastrian Radar and Yeadon is in Yorkshire
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and it's a different coloured pansy sorry rose.
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Meanwhile...'this approach may be affected by using legacy radar. Missed approach instructions will be passed in good time...'
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Legacy is a word that has admittedly crept into my vocabulary recently. I suppose it is just a fancy word for 'old'.

I'm not trying to suggest the LBA Watchman is past it or in any way no longer suitable. However, when I consider the number of British airports that have received new radars (and fancy control towers) in recent years I can't help thinking, when will it be our turn ?
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Probably when they reinstate the old, mainly into the prevailing wind, runway.
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Fat chance. The old RW28 threshold is now stand 20. They extended the wrong runway back in 84 but that's a different story. Would be nice to see a new shiny, stripy Selex or Raytheon gracing the concrete and cabbage patch but I think Bridgepoint's money is going elsewhere for now. I love our old, distinctive control tower but I dare say there will come a time when it will have to be replaced. Still if it lasts as long as Heathrow's LEGACY tower it will have done well .
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