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Can anyone clarify me one thing?
I have been reading throughout this thread and I havenīt found what I'm looking for:
When Eurocontrol sends an e-mail asking us for sending all our school leaving diplomas, do we have to send only the diploma of the secondary education or the diplomas of primary school and middle school as well?
I would appreciate an answer.
I have been reading throughout this thread and I havenīt found what I'm looking for:
When Eurocontrol sends an e-mail asking us for sending all our school leaving diplomas, do we have to send only the diploma of the secondary education or the diplomas of primary school and middle school as well?
I would appreciate an answer.
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@Pitagoras
"have successfully completed secondary education at an advanced level (university entrance level);"
I'm pretty sure that in all the EU countries the above statement equals highschool.
The answer to your question would be that you have to send your highschool graduation diploma (+ baccalaureate diploma or the equivalent graduation exam, and of course other diplomas that show you graduated highschool).
But if you really want to, you can send other diplomas as well, I doubt anyone will mind.
"have successfully completed secondary education at an advanced level (university entrance level);"
I'm pretty sure that in all the EU countries the above statement equals highschool.
The answer to your question would be that you have to send your highschool graduation diploma (+ baccalaureate diploma or the equivalent graduation exam, and of course other diplomas that show you graduated highschool).
But if you really want to, you can send other diplomas as well, I doubt anyone will mind.
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Here's a question...
For those of you that have sat the SDM part of the test with Eurocontrol... how long was the practice session before going straight to the actual SDM test.
When i say practice session i mean:
When I did it... it only lasted 3 mins and seemed a bit short... is this right? ( i had 30mins to spare after reading all the instructions)
I would appreciate replies from anyone that remembers
Naraic
When i say practice session i mean:
- SDM practice screen appears
- You are given sceanarios just like the test (insertions, deletions, revisions)
When I did it... it only lasted 3 mins and seemed a bit short... is this right? ( i had 30mins to spare after reading all the instructions)
I would appreciate replies from anyone that remembers
Naraic
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Hello,
you've 90 minutes to learn and understand the rules and tasks and during that period you have the chance to understand and try every subtask; imagine a basic flash-game.
So when you reach the "how to mark a local conflict" part of the session you will be provided with a few examples. If you're good: that's cool, you can continue. If you mess something: that's pretty uncool and you have to repeat (at least you should repeat) that part. But remember: time is clicking.
After the one and a half hour you'll have 3 minutes to try yourself and your fresh knowledge before the real deal; that's not too much, indeed.
you've 90 minutes to learn and understand the rules and tasks and during that period you have the chance to understand and try every subtask; imagine a basic flash-game.
So when you reach the "how to mark a local conflict" part of the session you will be provided with a few examples. If you're good: that's cool, you can continue. If you mess something: that's pretty uncool and you have to repeat (at least you should repeat) that part. But remember: time is clicking.
After the one and a half hour you'll have 3 minutes to try yourself and your fresh knowledge before the real deal; that's not too much, indeed.
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Thanks Stelar,
Yeah its such a pity... i scored 87 on the first tests and scored really low on the conflicts of the second test (4) i got 8 in the others.
I thought it was a tough thing to do since you only just learned it. and 3 minutes practice.... thats nothing.... it doesnt even help you at all... it ends so abruptly.
there should have been more time between telling you the results of the first test and starting the SDM test... i was still overwhelmed that i had gotten through.
Also its has to be said... why dont they provide you with a hard copy of your results... it makes me very suspicious and gives them the power to decide in other ways... ( ie age - i was substantially older than the other candidates but still JUST within the age bracket)
Makes me wonder....
Yeah its such a pity... i scored 87 on the first tests and scored really low on the conflicts of the second test (4) i got 8 in the others.
I thought it was a tough thing to do since you only just learned it. and 3 minutes practice.... thats nothing.... it doesnt even help you at all... it ends so abruptly.
there should have been more time between telling you the results of the first test and starting the SDM test... i was still overwhelmed that i had gotten through.
Also its has to be said... why dont they provide you with a hard copy of your results... it makes me very suspicious and gives them the power to decide in other ways... ( ie age - i was substantially older than the other candidates but still JUST within the age bracket)
Makes me wonder....
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You can get some feedback if you call them.
I am sure the age is no issue while you are in the limits. There are students that can confirm this, that got in and were very close to the age limit.
Given the amount of candidates that apply, they could've failed you in the screening phase and save some money.
That's my opinion!
I am sure the age is no issue while you are in the limits. There are students that can confirm this, that got in and were very close to the age limit.
Given the amount of candidates that apply, they could've failed you in the screening phase and save some money.
That's my opinion!
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I don't think age is a problem.. I am 18 and got my contract a few days ago. In my group (we start in May) there is also a 25 year old.. So we got the full limit 
About the feedback, you do get some if you call.. Still no exact numbers but it is still nice to know!
And last but not least, the SDM test.. I thought is was really really easy at the time that I did it.. I got a lot of conflicts, didn't miss any information and deleted and sorted them all fast. So a very high score Sarah told me..
A week or so ago I went to a friend of mine that has the skytest software.. I tried the SDM test there and it was really difficult I forgot how to find opposing conflicts so I got none.. It was a bit faster then the EC one but still.. Sorting went ok but you got a lot more strips so it was full all the time.. really annoying
About the feedback, you do get some if you call.. Still no exact numbers but it is still nice to know!
And last but not least, the SDM test.. I thought is was really really easy at the time that I did it.. I got a lot of conflicts, didn't miss any information and deleted and sorted them all fast. So a very high score Sarah told me..
A week or so ago I went to a friend of mine that has the skytest software.. I tried the SDM test there and it was really difficult
I forgot how to find opposing conflicts so I got none.. It was a bit faster then the EC one but still.. Sorting went ok but you got a lot more strips so it was full all the time.. really annoying
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Bitterness
To be honest guys im just bitter :P
I did get an email before i got invited to Maastricht saying i was too old.... but i argued that i was 6 days within the limit. So you cant blame me for thinking this way...
I wish i got through it after scoring so highly in the first tests. I wish i bought the software so i could have practised that SDM before... there is too little time to learn it and do it straight after... in my opinion
no worries, eurocontrols loss... at least i can use my results for another agency
thanks guys
I did get an email before i got invited to Maastricht saying i was too old.... but i argued that i was 6 days within the limit. So you cant blame me for thinking this way...
I wish i got through it after scoring so highly in the first tests. I wish i bought the software so i could have practised that SDM before... there is too little time to learn it and do it straight after... in my opinion
no worries, eurocontrols loss... at least i can use my results for another agency
thanks guys
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Naraic87,
Don't you think the tests are deliberately scheduled that way? Anyone can become an expert and complete the task well if they are given enough time! But Eurocontrol is looking for the people who can not only do the task with 90 minutes preparation but be able to put their (overwhelming) feelings aside and complete the task. This is what a qualified ATCO must do everyday of their working career.
It may sound harsh, but plenty of people can do the test well in the allotted time.
As for age, also not much to say. Eurocontrol have made a decision to try to get a mix of ages in each ab initio group ( as far as possible) because they have more success with these groups. If you met the age criteria and where invited for tests than no more would have been thought about it
By the way Eurocontrol takes people up to the age of 25 (and you were 6 days within this limit) but your profile age says 23 - something is not right somewhere
All the best for the future
Don't you think the tests are deliberately scheduled that way? Anyone can become an expert and complete the task well if they are given enough time! But Eurocontrol is looking for the people who can not only do the task with 90 minutes preparation but be able to put their (overwhelming) feelings aside and complete the task. This is what a qualified ATCO must do everyday of their working career.
It may sound harsh, but plenty of people can do the test well in the allotted time.
As for age, also not much to say. Eurocontrol have made a decision to try to get a mix of ages in each ab initio group ( as far as possible) because they have more success with these groups. If you met the age criteria and where invited for tests than no more would have been thought about it
By the way Eurocontrol takes people up to the age of 25 (and you were 6 days within this limit) but your profile age says 23 - something is not right somewhere
All the best for the future
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Originally Posted by millerman
Eurocontrol have made a decision to try to get a mix of ages in each ab initio group ( as far as possible) because they have more success with these groups.
Mixing different levels of experience can only be a good thing
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Hey everybody, great thread, I've read it all during the past month but never posted anything or had a user, had my phase 1 a few weeks ago and had my phase 2 + interview last week. Found out on Friday that I had been accepted and they will be in contact with further information
I was told the same when I had my interview, I was also told that they try to mix nationalities as much as possible as well.
As for age, also not much to say. Eurocontrol have made a decision to try to get a mix of ages in each ab initio group ( as far as possible) because they have more success with these groups.
Im sure we will get over it, given time.