UK experienced controller recruitment
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From: Back from Canada
It would seem that not all of us were so lucky having just received the e-mail from the HR department.
It would be interesting to see how many experienced ATCOs NATS have taken on during this recruitment drive, it will also be interesting to see what ratings they have and also where they get posted off to.
For whatever reason they didn't want this current, available (with 1 months notice), un-scathed ADI/APP/APS ATCO, maybe it is because I’ve only ever worked OCAS? Or maybe they didn’t like the font my CV was written in!?!
Is all this talk about NATS units being short, true?
I hope I don't hear in a few months that they are short once again, I am off to Canada.
It would be interesting to see how many experienced ATCOs NATS have taken on during this recruitment drive, it will also be interesting to see what ratings they have and also where they get posted off to.
For whatever reason they didn't want this current, available (with 1 months notice), un-scathed ADI/APP/APS ATCO, maybe it is because I’ve only ever worked OCAS? Or maybe they didn’t like the font my CV was written in!?!
Is all this talk about NATS units being short, true?
I hope I don't hear in a few months that they are short once again, I am off to Canada.
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From: UAE
It sounds as if NATS is only interested in ex-NATS people they chopped; not those who left of their own accord! Shooting themselves in the foot really, especially when ME salaries can approach the equivalent of UKP 120,000 p.a.
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From: In the middle
My reply
'Thank you for applying for the experienced ATCO advertisement for roles within NSL Airports.
I am writing to confirm to you that your application form will be held on file and that we will contact you directly as soon as any suitable vacancies arise.'
I said I was only prepared to work at Manch or Birmingham and got this reply. Does this mean no thanks or we'll get back to you?? I'm ADI APS OJTI LCE at my unit. Good luck anyone that gets the chance. Not ever so sure I would take it even if offered, but I like a challenge and it's nice to be asked. My CV had a picture - perhaps I am too ugly!!!!
I am writing to confirm to you that your application form will be held on file and that we will contact you directly as soon as any suitable vacancies arise.'
I said I was only prepared to work at Manch or Birmingham and got this reply. Does this mean no thanks or we'll get back to you?? I'm ADI APS OJTI LCE at my unit. Good luck anyone that gets the chance. Not ever so sure I would take it even if offered, but I like a challenge and it's nice to be asked. My CV had a picture - perhaps I am too ugly!!!!
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From: An Airport Near You
It's apparently a poorly worded e-mail. It means the process is still on-going and they will be in touch soon regarding the next stage in the process. It's not a 'you were un-successfull' message but another delay it would seem. Allegedly.
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From: southampton,hampshire,england
Charlie23
I would respectfully suggest that telling NATS HR where you will and won't work may not be the most sensible addition to any job application. NATS ATCO's are a mobile grade and should be prepared to go anywhere.
There are of course exceptions:
1. If you moan a lot
2. Friends in the right places
3. Spouse/partner preferential treatment
4. Management potential rising star
5. Compassionate reasons
It may be wise to get the job before laying down your posting requirements.
If your shorlist is only Manch/Brum then I wouldn't hold your breath!
Good luck anyway.
There are of course exceptions:
1. If you moan a lot
2. Friends in the right places
3. Spouse/partner preferential treatment
4. Management potential rising star
5. Compassionate reasons
It may be wise to get the job before laying down your posting requirements.
If your shorlist is only Manch/Brum then I wouldn't hold your breath!
Good luck anyway.
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From: In the middle
Thanks 360 and 055
Thanks for the replies guys or gals. I actually put "I would be particularly interested in vacancies at ......." - so hopefully I did not upset the HR sifting team!!! Yes, I take the point about getting the job first, but I am happy where I am but still seeking new challenges. If they want experienced ATCO who can do the job, they will have to bend a little otherwise they will get the wrong people. Good luck everyone - does anybody know how many NATS are actually looking for??? Could be carnage at the usual trawling grounds!!!!
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From: The foot of Mt. Belzoni.
throw a dyce,
I believe there are also some already settled at Manch who wouid like to stay there! Perhaps these "experienced ATCOs" being recruited could be offered a posting to the Costa del Saltcoats in order to facilitate this?
I believe there are also some already settled at Manch who wouid like to stay there! Perhaps these "experienced ATCOs" being recruited could be offered a posting to the Costa del Saltcoats in order to facilitate this?
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From: Got the radio on.
This is interesting. Has anybody been offered, or indeed heard of anyone, anywhere, being offered an interview for NSL/Airports? As far as I can find out, everyone has been sent the 'we'll keep your application on file' email. Have NATS gone cold feet on us? (NSL at least - I understand that NERL are interviewing APS-rated ACTOs, and italiancars didn't specify which branch of NATS he/she'd applied to).
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From: Back from Canada
This is interesting. Has anybody been offered, or indeed heard of anyone, anywhere, being offered an interview for NSL/Airports? As far as I can find out, everyone has been sent the 'we'll keep your application on file' email. Have NATS gone cold feet on us? (NSL at least - I understand that NERL are interviewing APS-rated ACTOs, and italiancars didn't specify which branch of NATS he/she'd applied to).
I met an old work collegaue for lunch today. Without giving away names or locations: 31 years old, 5 years as ADI, APS, OJTI and for what it’s worth within NATS, a Met Observer currently at a busy non-NATS unit in North West England. This person also applied to the same advert as I did it would seem and he got the same e-mail as I did.
So, Roadrunner Once, you might be onto something here. IIRC there were two NATS adverts at the same time, one was for airports and I am pretty sure the other was for either approach radar and area radar. Ok, fair enough they might be interviewing those who applied for the approach and area advert but what about the airports side of the operation i.e. no radar?
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From: Sherwood Forest
- I understand that NERL are interviewing APS-rated ACTOs,
Out of interest, are the Approach guys at Swanwick employed by NSL or NERL?
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From: North of 50N
If they want experienced ATCOs who can do the job...
....they will have to bend a little otherwise they will get the wrong people
"Have you visited the Planet Earth recently...??"
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From: Back in land of tiny cabbages
Location info on ScACC
Could anyone tell me, as objectively as possible please, what ScACC is like to work in / live near?
Work practices, social issues, salary structure, career development and other general info appreciated.
Thanks,
IF2
Work practices, social issues, salary structure, career development and other general info appreciated.
Thanks,
IF2
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From: Northern Monkey
Has anyone heard anything else? I`ve been invited to interview at Heathrow House but I`m still not sure which units the interview is for. I presume that if I`m successful then Nats will offer me wherever they fancy, subject practical assessments. Does anyone have any ideas where the vacancies are (its not the NERL advert I applied for by the way)
