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Hi Smoothsailing,
I had my phone interview a few days ago as well, and subsequently had exactly the same status as yourself (on-hold for upcoming assessment centre). From what I understand it is a positive sign, although it's always good to receive the formal email to be sure. I was told on on the phone that there won't be any assessment centre days until March, but we should hear back before they shut down for Christmas.
Fingers crossed!
I had my phone interview a few days ago as well, and subsequently had exactly the same status as yourself (on-hold for upcoming assessment centre). From what I understand it is a positive sign, although it's always good to receive the formal email to be sure. I was told on on the phone that there won't be any assessment centre days until March, but we should hear back before they shut down for Christmas.
Fingers crossed!
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Well I'm glad I found this thread. Was starting to loose my marbles with the wait time 
but it appears its normal.
My current schedule is:
14/03/15 - Application Submitted
17/05/15 - Online Test
22/05/15 - Online Occupational Personality Quiz
01/07/15 - Phone Interview
24/08/15 - Received Assessment Centre Invite
07/10/15 - Assessment Centre
22/10/15 - Received Reference Check Advisory
Still sitting around waiting but its good to see that its normal for 2 months for reference check... with Christmas break wont expect to hear anything until probably feb...
Anyone else who attended the assessment day in Brisbane on the 7th on this forum?
but it appears its normal.My current schedule is:
14/03/15 - Application Submitted
17/05/15 - Online Test
22/05/15 - Online Occupational Personality Quiz
01/07/15 - Phone Interview
24/08/15 - Received Assessment Centre Invite
07/10/15 - Assessment Centre
22/10/15 - Received Reference Check Advisory
Still sitting around waiting but its good to see that its normal for 2 months for reference check... with Christmas break wont expect to hear anything until probably feb...
Anyone else who attended the assessment day in Brisbane on the 7th on this forum?
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Well I'm glad I found this thread. Was starting to lose my marbles with the wait time but it appears it's normal.
My current schedule is:
14/03/15 - Application Submitted
17/05/15 - Online Test
22/05/15 - Online Occupational Personality Quiz
01/07/15 - Phone Interview
24/08/15 - Received Assessment Centre Invite
07/10/15 - Assessment Centre
22/10/15 - Received Reference Check Advisory
Still sitting around waiting but it's good to see that it's normal for 2 months for reference check... with Christmas break won't expect to hear anything until probably February.
Anyone else who attended the assessment day in Brisbane on the 7th on this forum?
This isn't aimed at vira as these types of errors appear in many posts. Start working on your grammar, spelling and punctuation now. When you finish the course and get rated, it won't be long before you will be writing reports, most likely ESIRs. These reports will go to a number of people, Airservices Safety, CASA, ATSB and the airline safety personnel. Small errors can change the meaning of a paragraph.
My current schedule is:
14/03/15 - Application Submitted
17/05/15 - Online Test
22/05/15 - Online Occupational Personality Quiz
01/07/15 - Phone Interview
24/08/15 - Received Assessment Centre Invite
07/10/15 - Assessment Centre
22/10/15 - Received Reference Check Advisory
Still sitting around waiting but it's good to see that it's normal for 2 months for reference check... with Christmas break won't expect to hear anything until probably February.
Anyone else who attended the assessment day in Brisbane on the 7th on this forum?
This isn't aimed at vira as these types of errors appear in many posts. Start working on your grammar, spelling and punctuation now. When you finish the course and get rated, it won't be long before you will be writing reports, most likely ESIRs. These reports will go to a number of people, Airservices Safety, CASA, ATSB and the airline safety personnel. Small errors can change the meaning of a paragraph.
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Hello Fujii,
Thank you for pointing out the hilarious spelling error
. It gave me a good laugh!
Yes we all have slip-ups from time to time. Who honestly hasn’t accidentally hit two 0’s when typing lose.
I find the comment’s quite funny though. Please remember that this is a forum not a 200 page thesis, 60 page monthly safety report, Operations Manual, Procedures Manual, Safety Manual or any number of documents that I have provided CASA, ATSB and/or Airline safety personnel.
Yes, I am already in the aviation industry
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Although you hold a very valid comment regarding grammar, spelling and punctuation
, especially in important documents, you need to remember that you would always re-read the document to ensure its accuracy. I believe this is called proofreading a document 
.
If you get to the stage of proofreading a post on a forum, you really need to consider two things.
1) You are taking the forum way to literally.
2) You really need to find something better to do with your time.
As for my previous post, short hand was used intentionally. This includes but is not limited to Feb and Invite. I guess my point is that appropriateness needs to be considered not just in regards to future work where proofreading is imperative, but also when singling out people (even though trying to cover it with a generalisation) who have obviously and intentionally used short hand on an appropriate media forum.
And no I’m not going to proofread this post. I have better things to do with my time
Thank you for pointing out the hilarious spelling error
. It gave me a good laugh!Yes we all have slip-ups from time to time. Who honestly hasn’t accidentally hit two 0’s when typing lose.
I find the comment’s quite funny though. Please remember that this is a forum not a 200 page thesis, 60 page monthly safety report, Operations Manual, Procedures Manual, Safety Manual or any number of documents that I have provided CASA, ATSB and/or Airline safety personnel.
Yes, I am already in the aviation industry
.Although you hold a very valid comment regarding grammar, spelling and punctuation
, especially in important documents, you need to remember that you would always re-read the document to ensure its accuracy. I believe this is called proofreading a document . If you get to the stage of proofreading a post on a forum, you really need to consider two things.
1) You are taking the forum way to literally.
2) You really need to find something better to do with your time.
As for my previous post, short hand was used intentionally. This includes but is not limited to Feb and Invite. I guess my point is that appropriateness needs to be considered not just in regards to future work where proofreading is imperative, but also when singling out people (even though trying to cover it with a generalisation) who have obviously and intentionally used short hand on an appropriate media forum.
And no I’m not going to proofread this post. I have better things to do with my time
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You really need to find something better to do with your time.
I did forty two years in ATC. Just passing along a little of what I learned. All the best for your career.
I did forty two years in ATC. Just passing along a little of what I learned. All the best for your career.
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Hi guys,
Would anybody have any information on the next possible recruitment of ATC's? I've been thinking of making the move into ATC for a while now and have recently decided to give it a crack.
I have attempted the practice assessments in the link below and find I'm scoring around 70 for each. I'm wondering if this is a pretty common score for someone to get (especially someone that has made it past the online assessments)? I saw this question asked a few pages back but didn't really see any informative replies. Does anybody have any information as to the benchmark ASA has on their ATC's recruits?
https://www.cebglobal.com/shldirect/en/practice-tests/
Cheers,
LukeyBoy
Would anybody have any information on the next possible recruitment of ATC's? I've been thinking of making the move into ATC for a while now and have recently decided to give it a crack.
I have attempted the practice assessments in the link below and find I'm scoring around 70 for each. I'm wondering if this is a pretty common score for someone to get (especially someone that has made it past the online assessments)? I saw this question asked a few pages back but didn't really see any informative replies. Does anybody have any information as to the benchmark ASA has on their ATC's recruits?
https://www.cebglobal.com/shldirect/en/practice-tests/
Cheers,
LukeyBoy
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Sorry couldn't get into the tests for free so couldn't run through one for you.
Did have a quick look at the examples and there are some good benchmarks there for you, particularly in regards to the style of testing… or so I feel anyway.
Unfortunately the way the assessment centre is done, it really is a “you either have it or you don’t” scenario. I found that no matter how much I tried to practice, it really boiled down to your personal ability to adapt and communicate rather then pure numerical, logic or verbal reasoning.
Best thing to do mate is just have a crack! If you pass the initial online testing you are in good standing with the assessment day.
The figures I was provided were, 3000 applicants each year apply only 500 make it to assessment day and only 100 through to training. I know those figures look bad but if you make it to the assessment day just relax, enjoy and I hope you achieve.
Did have a quick look at the examples and there are some good benchmarks there for you, particularly in regards to the style of testing… or so I feel anyway.
Unfortunately the way the assessment centre is done, it really is a “you either have it or you don’t” scenario. I found that no matter how much I tried to practice, it really boiled down to your personal ability to adapt and communicate rather then pure numerical, logic or verbal reasoning.
Best thing to do mate is just have a crack! If you pass the initial online testing you are in good standing with the assessment day.
The figures I was provided were, 3000 applicants each year apply only 500 make it to assessment day and only 100 through to training. I know those figures look bad but if you make it to the assessment day just relax, enjoy and I hope you achieve.
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^interesting stats. any idea what the training failure rate is?
i would imagine since there is a great investment in the training, that there would be significant support at the learning academy.
i would imagine since there is a great investment in the training, that there would be significant support at the learning academy.
Historically the overall success rate is around 50%. Around 1/3 are lost at the academy (failure and withdrawal), with the remainder failing the field sim or failing on-the-job training. There is a great investment in training but an even greater emphasis on meeting the standards required.
For better or worse the selection process is an imprecise science and it's hard to tell who can pull it all together at the end.
For better or worse the selection process is an imprecise science and it's hard to tell who can pull it all together at the end.
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Well, I had my 20-minute phone interview today. I tend to perform quite poorly when it comes to answering interview questions, but I think it went alright. Guess we'll soon see! I've really enjoyed the process so far, particularly since this is all entirely new to me.
While the next stage would involve a flight from Perth to Melbourne, I'm praying I get through to the assessment centre - it sounds like an incredible experience. Fingers crossed!
While the next stage would involve a flight from Perth to Melbourne, I'm praying I get through to the assessment centre - it sounds like an incredible experience. Fingers crossed!
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Course Offer
So incredibly happy to say I received an offer today for Melbourne En Route Course in September!
A massive thanks to everyone on this forum who has offered their experience and advice to help others out, reading the information on this forum has kept me sane during the wait. Would love to hear from anyone starting a course at the same time, especially if you'll also be looking for housemates when the course starts! In the hope it will help those going through the process to manage expectations and stay positive, here is the timeline for my application:
Application submitted: 3rd September
Invitation to online testing: 8th September
OPQ Invitation: 16th September
Invitation to book telephone interview: 10th October
Phone interview complete: 22nd October
Assessment Centre invite: 25th October
Assessment Centre complete: 26th November
Reference check advisory: 4th December
Reference check complete: Early January (not sure of date)
Verbal offer: 3rd February
A massive thanks to everyone on this forum who has offered their experience and advice to help others out, reading the information on this forum has kept me sane during the wait. Would love to hear from anyone starting a course at the same time, especially if you'll also be looking for housemates when the course starts! In the hope it will help those going through the process to manage expectations and stay positive, here is the timeline for my application:
Application submitted: 3rd September
Invitation to online testing: 8th September
OPQ Invitation: 16th September
Invitation to book telephone interview: 10th October
Phone interview complete: 22nd October
Assessment Centre invite: 25th October
Assessment Centre complete: 26th November
Reference check advisory: 4th December
Reference check complete: Early January (not sure of date)
Verbal offer: 3rd February
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Phone Interview
Congrats KS92, good job so far, and also to iinii for making the cut!
Here my experience of the phone interview:
Was called by a HR person, who gave a brief intro to the structure of the interview.
This was followed by 2 questions regarding the ATC role.
Then I had 3 behavioural style questions, where I had to draw on examples from past experiences.
The questions were fair and relevant, and you have the opportunity to promote yourself. Make the most of it!
For anyone preparing, I would suggest focusing on what you believe to be core aspects of the job.
Be practical in answering questions, and be SPECIFIC with your examples. Do not rely on vague descriptions or generalisations in your responses (which I am a little guilty of).
Also, don't bulls**t, as HR will smell it through the phone.
My interview went for about 28 min, but that was due to me rambling on a fair bit. I suggest NOT to do this, but keep to the point and get the message across. KISS.
If any further elaboration is required, HR will ask you for it.
If you stick to 2-3min answers the interview will be over in 20 min.
After the q&a session, the interviewer gave me a brief rundown of what happens next. Result of phone interview are to be notified via email in a week. I was also advised that not many make it to the assessment centre, and even fewer beyond. I'll take that as a subtle hint, and await my results with a dose of healthy pessimism.
You then have a quick minute or two to ask questions of your own (such as "Did I pass?").
This stage of the recruitment process is certainly one you CAN fail at, and therefore demands attention, in my view. However, with decent prep work the likelihood of stuffing it up completely is reduced, because you can target the areas being addressed.
DISCLAIMER: I'm no HR professional or interview expert, nor do I purport to know what ASA is looking for. These are simply my observations of the interview I had, and my personal opinions based on past experiences. I hope they will be useful to others.
Good luck everyone!
Here my experience of the phone interview:
Was called by a HR person, who gave a brief intro to the structure of the interview.
This was followed by 2 questions regarding the ATC role.
Then I had 3 behavioural style questions, where I had to draw on examples from past experiences.
The questions were fair and relevant, and you have the opportunity to promote yourself. Make the most of it!
For anyone preparing, I would suggest focusing on what you believe to be core aspects of the job.
Be practical in answering questions, and be SPECIFIC with your examples. Do not rely on vague descriptions or generalisations in your responses (which I am a little guilty of).
Also, don't bulls**t, as HR will smell it through the phone.
My interview went for about 28 min, but that was due to me rambling on a fair bit. I suggest NOT to do this, but keep to the point and get the message across. KISS.
If any further elaboration is required, HR will ask you for it.
If you stick to 2-3min answers the interview will be over in 20 min.
After the q&a session, the interviewer gave me a brief rundown of what happens next. Result of phone interview are to be notified via email in a week. I was also advised that not many make it to the assessment centre, and even fewer beyond. I'll take that as a subtle hint, and await my results with a dose of healthy pessimism.
You then have a quick minute or two to ask questions of your own (such as "Did I pass?").
This stage of the recruitment process is certainly one you CAN fail at, and therefore demands attention, in my view. However, with decent prep work the likelihood of stuffing it up completely is reduced, because you can target the areas being addressed.
DISCLAIMER: I'm no HR professional or interview expert, nor do I purport to know what ASA is looking for. These are simply my observations of the interview I had, and my personal opinions based on past experiences. I hope they will be useful to others.
Good luck everyone!
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Cheers, Aipgen!
Yeah, I can basically echo my experience through what you've just detailed. Thankfully, I received an email this morning asking me to confirm a booking for one of the assessment days in Melbourne! So stoked.
Let me know how you go - I'll have my fingers crossed for you!
Yeah, I can basically echo my experience through what you've just detailed. Thankfully, I received an email this morning asking me to confirm a booking for one of the assessment days in Melbourne! So stoked.
Let me know how you go - I'll have my fingers crossed for you!
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Course Offer July 2016
Afternoon All,
After approximately a year wait, I have recently received verbal confirmation of my acceptance for the July ENR intake in Melbourne.
PM me if you are also starting the same course and are interested in some sort of house share arrangement with fellow students!
Also a quick thanks to all of you for providing me with information on how long the process takes and the patience required when applying for ATC.
Cheers.
After approximately a year wait, I have recently received verbal confirmation of my acceptance for the July ENR intake in Melbourne.
PM me if you are also starting the same course and are interested in some sort of house share arrangement with fellow students!
Also a quick thanks to all of you for providing me with information on how long the process takes and the patience required when applying for ATC.
Cheers.
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Congratulations!
Hello,
Congratulations, to all successful candidates. All of U have done great job and are about to enter the amazing world of vectoring and endless separating... Good luck with it.
Any successful international candidate here?? If any, please PM, have some thoughts, and themes to talk about....
Congratulations, to all successful candidates.
All of U have done great job and are about to enter the amazing world of vectoring and endless separating... Good luck with it.Any successful international candidate here?? If any, please PM, have some thoughts, and themes to talk about....
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I was interested to see this bit which has slipped in there this time (or maybe it did get added previously and I didn't see):
Could be a way of limiting the age of applicants without putting a strict age limit on it? I guess you can always complete your PPL at any age, but the ten year limit on high school/university would limit a lot of people.
- Meet our minimum education requirements completed at an Australian institution within the last ten years. (International qualifications will need to be assessed by an appropriate authority as equivalent)
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- Year 12 Certificate with a score enabling entrance to university; or
- Completed Tertiary Diploma; or
- Completed Degree; or
- Current Commercial Pilot Licence or Private Pilot Licence.
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Applied - 22 February 2016.
My hat it is officially thrown in the ring...
I live in Melb and through a friend of a friend I was able to visit the ATC enroute control room a couple of weeks ago... was given the opportunity to 'plug in' and hear the live conversations with pilots. It was mid-morning (not early rush), nice weather in what seemed a fairly quiet sector...
I know that I can do the job but whether I can get through the selection process is my greatest hurdle.
My hat it is officially thrown in the ring...
I live in Melb and through a friend of a friend I was able to visit the ATC enroute control room a couple of weeks ago... was given the opportunity to 'plug in' and hear the live conversations with pilots. It was mid-morning (not early rush), nice weather in what seemed a fairly quiet sector...
I know that I can do the job but whether I can get through the selection process is my greatest hurdle.