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Airservices Australia Psychometric Testing

Old 12th Jun 2014, 02:35
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Arrival advice

Hey all. My arrival date is coming up at the end of the month. I had a few questions.

I just received a welcome packet email from Airservices. My questions are for those with experience from arriving abroad. I know that Airservices covers 6 weeks car hire. I was told I should buy a car in Melbourne. I know it seems cut and dry, but does anyone have any tips on how I should go about the process, i.e. Should I have a car for the first day or can I swing it with getting a ride from someone who has a car already (I would be more than happy to pay my share of gas) just until I can formulate a strategy.

If I require a car hire right away, can I get away with a taxi or car service to take me from the airport to the housing complex until I am rested and ready to deal with a car hire? Is there anything about a car hire in Australia that I should know that may catch me off guard?

Sorry to bug you all (it's late here in the United States and my nieces and nephews are worn their uncle out). But I do appreciate all the help. I still cannot believe that I am actually about to do this.

Thanks!
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Old 12th Jun 2014, 02:42
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Hi there,

Check your benefits tab on the employee portal re car hire. DON'T pick up from the airport, costs an additional $99 or something for a 10 day hire..
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Old 12th Jun 2014, 08:30
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2rights, there is no age discrimination, either positive or negative. You sink or swim on your own merits - that applies to the entire process, from initial testing to final field training. You'll be given exactly the same chance as everyone else.

That said, the training is very full on so favours the speed and flexibility of a younger brain. The generalisation is the older you are the harder it gets, so you at 40 will find it harder than you at 25 (but you still might find it easier than the 25 year old sitting next to you). What matters is it boils down to whether you can meet the standards or not, not your age.

From a purely statistical point of view at 40 you are behind the eight ball.
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Old 12th Jun 2014, 11:39
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Hey sir --

I cannot access the portal anymore. After I completed all the tasks as an applicant, it said I was done. Should I be have access to it? Should I be talking to someone about it? Thanks!
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Old 13th Jun 2014, 06:22
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Hey guys,

I've just had all my medicals and both DAME/DAO confirmed they sent the results to CASA on tuesday of this week and I know the casa site says to give 28 days from when they get everything (already paid processing fee) but how long have you guys experienced it has taken? is it better to wait until next month then call em up or do it earlier? I had to ring them for my ARN and got it verbally .. still haven't received any corro from them in regards to it haha. Thanks all for your help!
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 06:28
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Age query

Thanks for the comprehensive reply le Pingouin. That answers my question nicely.

Cheers.
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Old 14th Jun 2014, 09:41
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Originally Posted by le Pingouin View Post
2rights, there is no age discrimination, either positive or negative. You sink or swim on your own merits - that applies to the entire process, from initial testing to final field training. You'll be given exactly the same chance as everyone else.

That said, the training is very full on so favours the speed and flexibility of a younger brain. The generalisation is the older you are the harder it gets, so you at 40 will find it harder than you at 25 (but you still might find it easier than the 25 year old sitting next to you). What matters is it boils down to whether you can meet the standards or not, not your age.

From a purely statistical point of view at 40 you are behind the eight ball.
Probably the fairest and most accurate post written in this thread in regards to 'Age'. There is only one age related restriction...you need to be 18.
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Old 15th Jun 2014, 16:46
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Interesting that the USA (again) is the odd ball. The mandatory retirement age is 56. To get controllers to get the minimum time necessary, you have to be hired before your 31st birthday. The irony is that you can't access part of your retirement without penalty until age 57. This usually leaves controllers in a predicament for a year.
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 10:50
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Coffs Harbour

Anybody know if Coffs Harbour (YCFS) is Approach procedural control or just Tower class D? Thanks for the help
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 12:08
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I'm almost not game to ask this, but why do you ask?
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Old 16th Jun 2014, 12:49
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Research for an interview next week. Not sure what location they have in mind so having a look at all possibilities.
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 03:12
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Assessment day

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone can tell me if scientific or just basic calculators are provided on the day.
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Old 21st Jun 2014, 05:44
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lew87,

Basic, that's all you need, it's mental arithmetic stuff.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 02:03
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Hi Lew, They provide basic calculators for you to use on the day, so if you did the psychometric tests using a scientific calculator, then i recommend you do some practice tests on SHL using a basic function calculator.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 08:24
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Could anyone please advise on how much weighting/consideration is given to the 'Personality Questionnaire' that is required to be completed shortly before the assessment centre? My understanding is that it is supplemental to the interview on the day. Is the questionnaire given much consideration in weighing up an applicant overall? I find these types of questions extremely tricky to answer, even though you are told to answer them honestly!

Cheers.
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 11:43
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DMCMan, I can't comment on a specific 'weighting', but the psychological factors are a big part of the process. It's not just about having the cognitive ability to do the job, you need to be able to emotionally cope with the responsibility under pressure as well. Just be honest and dont try and give answers you think they want to hear (to be honest it's a dead set give away if you try anyway..)
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Old 24th Jun 2014, 12:46
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Thanks for the heads up I was thinking that. I've been doing a lot of online practise shl tests to better prepare myself for the upcoming assessment day. I read on a related airservicesaustralia link online that there is a part to the assessment day covering vectors and time/speed/distance maths. I've been relearning most of this in the past couple of weeks. Hoping I can scrape through it alright.
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Old 26th Jun 2014, 09:15
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Post Applications Re-Opened

Hello Everyone,

Just to let you know, Airservices has re-opened the application process for ATC.
The link is here:

Job details|Airservices

The initial requirements have been slightly lowered, removing the need for a science qualification. All you need now is a pass from High School that would allow entry into University. The testing is still very similar and the assessment day hasnt changed.

Get those applications in, and good luck to all that are interested!
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Old 26th Jun 2014, 12:00
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That is good news, wasn't sure i'd have my PPL license in hand by close of application window and previously didn't qualify under the old requirements for not having completed a year 12 maths.
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Old 26th Jun 2014, 13:37
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YAASB
Hello Everyone,

Just to let you know, Airservices has re-opened the application process for ATC.

The initial requirements have been slightly lowered, removing the need for a science qualification. All you need now is a pass from High School that would allow entry into University.
This is something that I have been advocating for a while, most senior school students (HSC, Matriculation, whatever) are told to take the subjects that excel at, be it Art, Music, Maths or Ancient History. This opens up a much wider net of potential applicants; however the important thing is the aptitude to do the job and the medical requirements.

Good luck one and all.
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