Why should we go to Swanwick?
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Why should we go to Swanwick?
Given the fact that 'Prince' Harry has just been excused service in Iraq (despite the huge amount of tax payers money that has been wasted on his training) why should I and others accept being posted to Swanwick? Or does being rich and privileged exempt you from being a 'mobile grade'?
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In HRH Harry's defence, it isn't his decision and he was probably raring to go. He's probably as p*ssed off not to be going as those who threatened are that he won't be their target. After all, back when his uncle was at war, the Argentines played more or less by the rules of "civilised" war and so did the UK forces. They would have been happy to have shot him down or sunk his ship, but they wore uniforms while attempting to do so.
For everyone else in a mobile grade, hey, I know it sucks big time when you have family settled and friends in one area and are forced to move. But if you can't take a joke.....
For everyone else in a mobile grade, hey, I know it sucks big time when you have family settled and friends in one area and are forced to move. But if you can't take a joke.....
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Hmm -
Stay at West Drayton (a piece of Manhattan as the property developers are trying to advertise it), or move to the south coast... near the sea, near the New Forest, good transport links into London village if you want them, cleaner air, no M25 (if you move).
I'm quite happy to be a mobile grade in this instance..... at least once we have moved we can virtually guarantee that we will not move again in our career (unless we want to).
Considering we are 'mobile grades' I think we get off lightly compared to others - particularly the military, seeing as that was brought up in the thread starter!
Stay at West Drayton (a piece of Manhattan as the property developers are trying to advertise it), or move to the south coast... near the sea, near the New Forest, good transport links into London village if you want them, cleaner air, no M25 (if you move).
I'm quite happy to be a mobile grade in this instance..... at least once we have moved we can virtually guarantee that we will not move again in our career (unless we want to).
Considering we are 'mobile grades' I think we get off lightly compared to others - particularly the military, seeing as that was brought up in the thread starter!
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Hmm -
Stay at West Drayton (a piece of Manhattan as the property developers are trying to advertise it), or move to the south coast... near the sea, near the New Forest, good transport links into London village if you want them, cleaner air, no M25 (if you move).
Stay at West Drayton (a piece of Manhattan as the property developers are trying to advertise it), or move to the south coast... near the sea, near the New Forest, good transport links into London village if you want them, cleaner air, no M25 (if you move).
I don't know who chose this location all those years ago, or why but I know that I won't be thanking them for it. I'm dreading it.
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NATS people can be a funny bunch.
scream, shout, stomp feet about something not in contract and not fair- can't say i blame you.
scream, shout, stomp feet about something in your contract - JUST GET ON WITH IT
scream, shout, stomp feet about something not in contract and not fair- can't say i blame you.
scream, shout, stomp feet about something in your contract - JUST GET ON WITH IT
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There are plenty of beautiful villages and countryside around Hampshire - certainly just as pleasant as High Wycombe! I do wish people that are happy to take the money would stop bleeting about the inevitable moves. You could always leave NATS if you really want to stay where you are.
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Some interesting replies and not all as hostile as I was first expecting. I think some of you have missed the point slightly. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't somebody court martialled a while back for refusing to go to Iraq?
To be fair I think I actually agree with the decision. If he did go it would be a fiasco, it would take half the existing British forces over there to look after him not to mention a victory for some of the more unsavoury elements in the country if something did happen.
However, I do think it calls into question the point about having royals in the armed forces in the first place. It's also a bit of an insult to the friends and families who have lost loved ones (and they didn't have a choice if they wanted to go or not). Would be interesting to hear what some of our military colleagues think.
I wonder if an ATCO would be happy having a 'Royal' colleague if they couldn't validate? (apart from 'Fergie' of course 'cos she's a bit hot!)
The bit about going to Swanwick was a bit tongue in cheek since I've alway accepted that I'm a mobile grade (doesn't mean I have to like it though!)
To be fair I think I actually agree with the decision. If he did go it would be a fiasco, it would take half the existing British forces over there to look after him not to mention a victory for some of the more unsavoury elements in the country if something did happen.
However, I do think it calls into question the point about having royals in the armed forces in the first place. It's also a bit of an insult to the friends and families who have lost loved ones (and they didn't have a choice if they wanted to go or not). Would be interesting to hear what some of our military colleagues think.
I wonder if an ATCO would be happy having a 'Royal' colleague if they couldn't validate? (apart from 'Fergie' of course 'cos she's a bit hot!)
The bit about going to Swanwick was a bit tongue in cheek since I've alway accepted that I'm a mobile grade (doesn't mean I have to like it though!)
Why go to Swanwick
As above plus,
Nice smokers shack by the lake,
Restaurant with a view of the lake, not the security fence with the shops behind obscured by tacky red blinds.
Swanwick is full of totty unlike the desert that is HMP and as for CTC!!!!!
Climate controlled environment.
Shopping at West Quays, Winchester and Chichester.
Quick hop to the ferry for the booze cruise/holiday
SOTON airport up the road for that getaway to the sun without the hassle of LL or KK.
Lots of luverly pubs near Wickham, Botley etc.
Nice smokers shack by the lake,
Restaurant with a view of the lake, not the security fence with the shops behind obscured by tacky red blinds.
Swanwick is full of totty unlike the desert that is HMP and as for CTC!!!!!
Climate controlled environment.
Shopping at West Quays, Winchester and Chichester.
Quick hop to the ferry for the booze cruise/holiday
SOTON airport up the road for that getaway to the sun without the hassle of LL or KK.
Lots of luverly pubs near Wickham, Botley etc.
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Cruisecontrol.
"I take your point about the M25 but have you seen the M27? For most of the day it's unbelieveably busy and for much of it, at a total standstill."
In my experience, that statement is factually inaccurate. We've been here since August and I use the M27 between J9 and J5 on a very regular basis, at various times of the day. The eastbound exit at J9 after about 16:00 can be slow and the westbound stretch between Botley (J7) and the airport (J5) can be slow up until about 09:30. Outside these times it has been as wide open as any other motorway. Sure, if there is a prang then general rules apply.
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"I take your point about the M25 but have you seen the M27? For most of the day it's unbelieveably busy and for much of it, at a total standstill."
In my experience, that statement is factually inaccurate. We've been here since August and I use the M27 between J9 and J5 on a very regular basis, at various times of the day. The eastbound exit at J9 after about 16:00 can be slow and the westbound stretch between Botley (J7) and the airport (J5) can be slow up until about 09:30. Outside these times it has been as wide open as any other motorway. Sure, if there is a prang then general rules apply.
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apart from 'Fergie' of course 'cos she's a bit hot!
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I have to agree with .4, I've been down here for two years, and for anyone to compare the hour and a half of busy traffic on the M27 at each end of the working day with the hours of gridlock on the M25 is quite silly.
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"Restaurant is stretching the use of the word a little bit! Watch out for the crazy multiple fruit crumbles? Plum and pineapple anyone?"
Nice to know we can look forward to the same standard of food then! Although I believe that the catering at CTC is very good. I wonder why!
Nice to know we can look forward to the same standard of food then! Although I believe that the catering at CTC is very good. I wonder why!
