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EGLL19791986 16th May 2007 17:55

Why should we go to Swanwick?
 
Given the fact that 'Prince' Harry has just been excused service in Iraq (despite the huge amount of tax payers money that has been wasted on his training) why should I and others accept being posted to Swanwick? Or does being rich and privileged exempt you from being a 'mobile grade'?

Ceannairceach 16th May 2007 17:59

I think I'll claim similar privileges over the move to NPC. I wonder what my chances will be?

Spitoon 16th May 2007 18:07

I think you answered your own question.

Lock n' Load 16th May 2007 18:24

In HRH Harry's defence, it isn't his decision and he was probably raring to go. He's probably as p*ssed off not to be going as those who threatened are that he won't be their target. After all, back when his uncle was at war, the Argentines played more or less by the rules of "civilised" war and so did the UK forces. They would have been happy to have shot him down or sunk his ship, but they wore uniforms while attempting to do so.

For everyone else in a mobile grade, hey, I know it sucks big time when you have family settled and friends in one area and are forced to move. But if you can't take a joke.....

anotherthing 16th May 2007 18:58

Hmm -

Stay at West Drayton (a piece of Manhattan as the property developers are trying to advertise it), or move to the south coast... near the sea, near the New Forest, good transport links into London village if you want them, cleaner air, no M25 (if you move).

I'm quite happy to be a mobile grade in this instance..... at least once we have moved we can virtually guarantee that we will not move again in our career (unless we want to).

Considering we are 'mobile grades' I think we get off lightly compared to others - particularly the military, seeing as that was brought up in the thread starter!

cruisecontrol 17th May 2007 10:20


Hmm -

Stay at West Drayton (a piece of Manhattan as the property developers are trying to advertise it), or move to the south coast... near the sea, near the New Forest, good transport links into London village if you want them, cleaner air, no M25 (if you move).
If only it were that clear cut for everybody. Sure, if you're unlucky enough to live in or around West Drayton then Swanwick will seem like a dream place to live. Personally I've seen nothing there to beat the beautiful Chiltern countryside I live in now. I take your point about the M25 but have you seen the M27? For most of the day it's unbelieveably busy and for much of it, at a total standstill. That section of the South Coast is not even very nice compared to others to the East and West of it. To find anywhere REALLY nice to live you're looking at a longish journey each day to work, in fact no different to the current situation at West Drayton at all.

I don't know who chose this location all those years ago, or why but I know that I won't be thanking them for it. I'm dreading it.:{

terry1261 17th May 2007 12:26

NATS people can be a funny bunch.

scream, shout, stomp feet about something not in contract and not fair- can't say i blame you.

scream, shout, stomp feet about something in your contract - JUST GET ON WITH IT

begbie 17th May 2007 12:44

"scream, shout, stomp feet about something in your contract - JUST GET ON WITH IT"

Hear, hear..

If you don't like it, go and get a static post job somewhere else..

Number2 17th May 2007 13:12

There are plenty of beautiful villages and countryside around Hampshire - certainly just as pleasant as High Wycombe! I do wish people that are happy to take the money would stop bleeting about the inevitable moves. You could always leave NATS if you really want to stay where you are.

EGLL19791986 17th May 2007 13:38

Some interesting replies and not all as hostile as I was first expecting. I think some of you have missed the point slightly. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't somebody court martialled a while back for refusing to go to Iraq?

To be fair I think I actually agree with the decision. If he did go it would be a fiasco, it would take half the existing British forces over there to look after him not to mention a victory for some of the more unsavoury elements in the country if something did happen.

However, I do think it calls into question the point about having royals in the armed forces in the first place. It's also a bit of an insult to the friends and families who have lost loved ones (and they didn't have a choice if they wanted to go or not). Would be interesting to hear what some of our military colleagues think.

I wonder if an ATCO would be happy having a 'Royal' colleague if they couldn't validate? (apart from 'Fergie' of course 'cos she's a bit hot!)

The bit about going to Swanwick was a bit tongue in cheek since I've alway accepted that I'm a mobile grade (doesn't mean I have to like it though!)

Widger 17th May 2007 13:54

Why go to Swanwick
 
As above plus,
Nice smokers shack by the lake,
Restaurant with a view of the lake, not the security fence with the shops behind obscured by tacky red blinds.
Swanwick is full of totty unlike the desert that is HMP and as for CTC!!!!!
Climate controlled environment.
Shopping at West Quays, Winchester and Chichester.
Quick hop to the ferry for the booze cruise/holiday
SOTON airport up the road for that getaway to the sun without the hassle of LL or KK.
Lots of luverly pubs near Wickham, Botley etc.

120.4 17th May 2007 15:34

Cruisecontrol.
"I take your point about the M25 but have you seen the M27? For most of the day it's unbelieveably busy and for much of it, at a total standstill."

In my experience, that statement is factually inaccurate. We've been here since August and I use the M27 between J9 and J5 on a very regular basis, at various times of the day. The eastbound exit at J9 after about 16:00 can be slow and the westbound stretch between Botley (J7) and the airport (J5) can be slow up until about 09:30. Outside these times it has been as wide open as any other motorway. Sure, if there is a prang then general rules apply.

.4

Me Me Me Me 17th May 2007 16:03


apart from 'Fergie' of course 'cos she's a bit hot!
Oh dear!! Here's hoping the move to the south coast avails you of a selection of better looking women than you're clearly used to!! :ok:

intherealworld 17th May 2007 16:32


Restaurant with a view of the lake
Restaurant is stretching the use of the word a little bit! Watch out for the crazy multiple fruit crumbles? Plum and pineapple anyone?

Gonzo 17th May 2007 17:30

I have to agree with .4, I've been down here for two years, and for anyone to compare the hour and a half of busy traffic on the M27 at each end of the working day with the hours of gridlock on the M25 is quite silly.

MancBoy 17th May 2007 19:02

Gonzo, if you work at egll why do you live in hampshire?

Dannyboyblue 17th May 2007 19:22

Would you want to live in Hounslow?:E

ATSA_Grunt 17th May 2007 21:04

Come 2 Swanwick. Not all the "ERICS" bite!! Yes we know about that 1!!

EGLL19791986 17th May 2007 22:45

"Restaurant is stretching the use of the word a little bit! Watch out for the crazy multiple fruit crumbles? Plum and pineapple anyone?"

Nice to know we can look forward to the same standard of food then! Although I believe that the catering at CTC is very good. I wonder why!

goldfrog 18th May 2007 07:49

As I have spent the last two years building your new ops room it would be a shame if you didn't turn up :bored:


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