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NATS interview process

Old 5th Aug 2019, 10:13
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Originally Posted by Mohammad Khan View Post
Thanks for your reply. I meant rejecting a posting, in case it's too far from my home. I guess I might have to contact them to find out for sure. Thanks again, though.
You need to appreciate that you are applying for a mobile job grade, and therefore the company has the right to post you to where their business needs are. If you are successful in your application, and decide to go to NATS, on the first few days of your course you will sign paperwork agreeing to this, in addition to it being written into your employment contract. You are also bonded to the company, therefore you cannot complete your NATS funded ATCO training and then quit/run off without owing approx £40k.

Therefore if you wish to "pick and choose" where you are posted I would really think twice about applying/joining. I know it sounds harsh and I really understand it can be disruptive for a family but this is the choice you have to make.



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Old 6th Aug 2019, 10:54
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Hi Guys/Girls

I was lucky enough to get through the stage 3 recently, medical next month and early 2020 start for training, I understand its a mobile grade etc but I am pretty sure they will ask us for preferences at some point, so have started to give it some thought.

Does anyone have any firm info on what occurs where? As i understand it Area is split between Swanwick and Prestwick, London approaches are all done from Swanwick? and Tower is always located on each individual site? anyone know if other approaches are centralised, and if so, to where? or do they work out of the individual sites?

thanks in advance
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 16:27
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Originally Posted by The GP View Post
Hi Guys/Girls

I was lucky enough to get through the stage 3 recently, medical next month and early 2020 start for training, I understand its a mobile grade etc but I am pretty sure they will ask us for preferences at some point, so have started to give it some thought.

Does anyone have any firm info on what occurs where? As i understand it Area is split between Swanwick and Prestwick, London approaches are all done from Swanwick? and Tower is always located on each individual site? anyone know if other approaches are centralised, and if so, to where? or do they work out of the individual sites?

thanks in advance
look at the tower for London city!
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 17:05
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Originally Posted by The GP View Post
I was lucky enough to get through the stage 3 recently, medical next month and early 2020 start for training
Congrats!
Originally Posted by The GP View Post
Tower is always located on each individual site?
Normally Towers are where they are expected, unless they switch to Digital/Remote Towers like in London City or Cranfield.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 17:28
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Originally Posted by The GP View Post
Hi Guys/Girls

I was lucky enough to get through the stage 3 recently, medical next month and early 2020 start for training, I understand its a mobile grade etc but I am pretty sure they will ask us for preferences at some point, so have started to give it some thought.

Does anyone have any firm info on what occurs where? As i understand it Area is split between Swanwick and Prestwick, London approaches are all done from Swanwick? and Tower is always located on each individual site? anyone know if other approaches are centralised, and if so, to where? or do they work out of the individual sites?

thanks in advance
Be aware that, whilst preferences are taken near the end of the course, subject to you passing, out of 15 on my course 3 got one of their preferences.

In terms of what occurs, you normally get an email from HR going "you are welcome to submit 3 preferences if you wish." Be aware that postings vary from Aberdeen in the north to Southampton in the south, including Aberporth in the west and everything in between. Area courses will be sent to either Swanwick (TC or AC) or Prestwick. Radar only rated people will be sent to either Swanwick to do London approaches, Aberporth ranges, or Aberdeen to staff the offshore function. There are also many trainees holding at units awaiting to start their unit training, so factor all of this into your expectations throughout training. It is definitely worth it in the end though!

It is a great job and a great company to work for, who really do look after you. Again I just cannot stress enough to expect the unexpected with regards to postings. Just because someone has a family with kids does not mean they will get posted where they want.... I can say this with 100% certainty.....!!!
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 12:03
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Thanks, That is an impressive looking facility, I had heard that remote towers were being considered but didn't know this was operational yet.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 12:06
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Thanks, yes that London City Tower is impressive! I would expect these will become more common over the next few decades as traditional tower operational life spans expire.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 12:18
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Thank you, that does help clear things up for me, it was pretty much what i was expecting with the 3/15 figure, i guess as you say I'll just have to wait and see. Exciting times ahead!

Do you know how far in until you find out your unit placement? I'm assuming most stay on where they complete unit training?

Sorry for all the questions btw, and thanks in advance.
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 18:26
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Originally Posted by The GP View Post
Thank you, that does help clear things up for me, it was pretty much what i was expecting with the 3/15 figure, i guess as you say I'll just have to wait and see. Exciting times ahead!

Do you know how far in until you find out your unit placement? I'm assuming most stay on where they complete unit training?

Sorry for all the questions btw, and thanks in advance.
You complete your college training. At the end of this, you receive your posting. Once you begin at your posting/unit this is where you will train and validate your license, and thus your place of work as an ATCO.
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 15:01
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Hi new here,
NATS UK is wanting work visa before applying.But the rules say that you either
1. need a job offer in hand to apply for a work visa
2.a sponsorship from your company who is recruiting you
In both the cases NATS UK is not going to take the responsibility.I have asked them but they said you need to have a work permit before applying.
I would request all of you here,my respected seniors or my loved juniors or my mates if anybody have any idea please help me out.
I would be thankful to you.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 16:07
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Has anyone got any news when NATS will be opening there recruitment stages
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 18:59
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Originally Posted by chiranjib View Post
Hi new here,
NATS UK is wanting work visa before applying.But the rules say that you either
1. need a job offer in hand to apply for a work visa
2.a sponsorship from your company who is recruiting you
In both the cases NATS UK is not going to take the responsibility.I have asked them but they said you need to have a work permit before applying.
I would request all of you here,my respected seniors or my loved juniors or my mates if anybody have any idea please help me out.
I would be thankful to you.
I can understand your predicament, but I donít think itís that unusual for a company to only accept applications from people who already have a right to live and work in the country concerned, while at the same time being unable to assist you in terms of sponsorship.

From what I understand, NATS get thousands of applications a year, and although I suppose they *could* assess overseas candidates who donít currently have a right to work here, that is probably a gamble they donít want or need to take.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 19:03
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Originally Posted by GandalfGaming2144 View Post
Has anyone got any news when NATS will be opening there recruitment stages
Probably not the answer you want, but given the current wait to start courses for those who have passed Stage 3, and the delay for those who have recently completed Stage 2 moving on to Stage 3, I can’t imagine it will be in the next 12 months. Pure speculation, though... so who knows?

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Old 13th Aug 2019, 07:27
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TATC Application Reopening

Hi,.does anyone know roughly when the application process will reopen for new applications?
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 17:47
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Originally Posted by TJJC View Post
Hi,.does anyone know roughly when the application process will reopen for new applications?
See the post directly above yours.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Quilt View Post


See the post directly above yours.
Cheers, noticed the ANS are open for applications with the process starting early next year.
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Old 18th Aug 2019, 13:46
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Originally Posted by TJJC View Post
Cheers, noticed the ANS are open for applications with the process starting early next year.
Remember that ANS only have contracts (currently....) at 2 airports though, each of those with around 20 ATCOs so can't imagine there is a huge demand for new ab-initio ATCOs!

My advice would be to definitely stick out the temporary stop on applications at NATS, get experiences that you can talk in your interview about, and apply when the recruitment window reopens.
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