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Fabrifix Calm down. If you think the job makes you "Histerical" (sic) then you really should be looking elsewhere.
The title of this thread is perhaps a bit arrogant.You all have questions about Eurocontrol, but, as wannabes you are in no position to have the full picture.A number of people who actually know what they are talking about have joined in.
TT ( now living a quiet life elsewhere) was an instructor at IANS and also a valued colleague at Maastricht)
The lovely Moira makes a very valid point. It's not about notches on your gun. It will take a lot of determination on your part to get through, if you don't want it 100% try something else. There will be an enormous investment, financially and timewise, made in you. We don't want to see it go to waste.
The Engerland team does
The title of this thread is perhaps a bit arrogant.You all have questions about Eurocontrol, but, as wannabes you are in no position to have the full picture.A number of people who actually know what they are talking about have joined in.
TT ( now living a quiet life elsewhere) was an instructor at IANS and also a valued colleague at Maastricht)
The lovely Moira makes a very valid point. It's not about notches on your gun. It will take a lot of determination on your part to get through, if you don't want it 100% try something else. There will be an enormous investment, financially and timewise, made in you. We don't want to see it go to waste.
no soccer team talks about winning the world cup before reaching the finals and actually winning it.
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TT ( now living a quiet life elsewhere) was an instructor at IANS and also a valued colleague at Maastricht)
I dont know about the quiet life bit
Why dont you just leave your name here so you can get some 'special' treatment?
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Originally Posted by Lon More
Fabrifix Calm down. If you think the job makes you "Histerical" (sic) then you really should be looking elsewhere.
The title of this thread is perhaps a bit arrogant.You all have questions about Eurocontrol, but, as wannabes you are in no position to have the full picture.A number of people who actually know what they are talking about have joined in.
TT ( now living a quiet life elsewhere) was an instructor at IANS and also a valued colleague at Maastricht)
The lovely Moira makes a very valid point. It's not about notches on your gun. It will take a lot of determination on your part to get through, if you don't want it 100% try something else. There will be an enormous investment, financially and timewise, made in you. We don't want to see it go to waste.
fabrifx: "no soccer team talks about winning the world cup before reaching the finals and actually winning it."
The Engerland team does
The title of this thread is perhaps a bit arrogant.You all have questions about Eurocontrol, but, as wannabes you are in no position to have the full picture.A number of people who actually know what they are talking about have joined in.
TT ( now living a quiet life elsewhere) was an instructor at IANS and also a valued colleague at Maastricht)
The lovely Moira makes a very valid point. It's not about notches on your gun. It will take a lot of determination on your part to get through, if you don't want it 100% try something else. There will be an enormous investment, financially and timewise, made in you. We don't want to see it go to waste.
fabrifx: "no soccer team talks about winning the world cup before reaching the finals and actually winning it."
The Engerland team does
sure ) but I don't think it is the right time to think about the course..when and IF I will be lucky(and smart) enough to pass all 4 test phases, then I will start realising how my life will change and start learning what my responsibilities will be and the effort it will take me to become a good ATCO. I'm a very calm person and I don't like talking too much in advance, because it'll seem that I 'm arrogant and presumptuous and this isn't me!!By the way, i don't know why the english bookmakers say the final will be Italy-Brazil and quote italy's victory 1.4 and Brazil 1.5...I'm italian but after all the scandals that are coming out lately, I don't think we deserve it at all!!
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Why dont you just leave your name here so you can get some 'special' treatment?
Thought the "valued colleague" would throw them off the track
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Yeah the movies got it wrong, we don't call it pushing tin over here. It is pushing metal... But no matter... Good luck to all of you who are trying to become controllers. It is a GREAT profession only lowered by some of the dolts in managment and government who have NO CLUE as to what is really going on and only look at the short term solutions since they are not going to be along long term to deal with it <G>...
Oh and for those of you who say one step at a time, you are correct, that is what it takes, just keep working really hard and start your team work early while in school so that you learn together. It is easier that way. Remember too that once you get behind, catching up is nearly impossible. Almost like working traffic <G>...
Take care
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But no matter... Good luck to all of you who are trying to become controllers. It is a GREAT profession only lowered by some of the dolts in managment and government who have NO CLUE as to what is really going on and only look at the short term solutions since they are not going to be along long term to deal with it <G>... Oh and for those of you who say one step at a time, you are correct, that is what it takes, just keep working really hard and start your team work early while in school so that you learn together. It is easier that way. Remember too that once you get behind, catching up is nearly impossible. Almost like working traffic <G>...
Take care
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soontobeATCO thank you for this thread.
I am going to take feast test next week.
How much time will i have for each part of the test,and how many questions are there (cubes,diagrammes,numeric reasoning etc.) ?
Does anybody know exactly?
I am going to take feast test next week.
How much time will i have for each part of the test,and how many questions are there (cubes,diagrammes,numeric reasoning etc.) ?
Does anybody know exactly?
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Originally Posted by miki kv
soontobeATCO thank you for this thread.
I am going to take feast test next week.
How much time will i have for each part of the test,and how many questions are there (cubes,diagrammes,numeric reasoning etc.) ?
Does anybody know exactly?
I am going to take feast test next week.
How much time will i have for each part of the test,and how many questions are there (cubes,diagrammes,numeric reasoning etc.) ?
Does anybody know exactly?
The afternoon, for the "strips test", you will have 1;30hrs training and then 35 min for the test itself.
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flyingsystem, didn't the lady that tested us say that the selections for june were gonna take place from monday june 12 til friday the 16(today).. I might be mistaken but that's what I think I heard, although I admit that I was concentarted more on the exercises than on what she said.. the important is that everything went the way I hoped ...
The tests are hard but I expected them to be worse, I don't know why but I was not stressed at all at the end and I was fresh and clean that night for some beers at Maastricht center..I don't know how the stripping part went, since I never studied those things, but I really liked the exercises of the first part.. the shape sorting was the best, I think I did that very well together with the cubes, the memory numbers and flight directions..
I don't wanna talk to early cause I don't know how I did the second part but anyways it was a really nice experience and its a great place with nice people. Hopefully the dream will go on...
by the ways, thanks soontobeatco..did they let u know anything for the second/third phase?? they should take place together in the middle of july..
...The tests are hard but I expected them to be worse, I don't know why but I was not stressed at all at the end and I was fresh and clean that night for some beers at Maastricht center
..I don't know how the stripping part went, since I never studied those things, but I really liked the exercises of the first part.. the shape sorting was the best, I think I did that very well together with the cubes, the memory numbers and flight directions..I don't wanna talk to early cause I don't know how I did the second part but anyways it was a really nice experience and its a great place with nice people. Hopefully the dream will go on...
by the ways, thanks soontobeatco..did they let u know anything for the second/third phase?? they should take place together in the middle of july..
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Yes Fabrifx, I think you are right, she said that there is a test each day of this week. But anyway I responded to Miki Kv.
It was really a nice experience, but it seems to me that I will not pass the second part...dont know why, but I wait the result.
Btw when will they send the results? I just hope that it'll be quick!!!
I hope we'll meet again in July for the next part!
It was really a nice experience, but it seems to me that I will not pass the second part...dont know why
, but I wait the result.Btw when will they send the results? I just hope that it'll be quick!!!
I hope we'll meet again in July for the next part
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Originally Posted by flyingsystem
Yes Fabrifx, I think you are right, she said that there is a test each day of this week. But anyway I responded to Miki Kv.
It was really a nice experience, but it seems to me that I will not pass the second part...dont know why, but I wait the result.
Btw when will they send the results? I just hope that it'll be quick!!!
I hope we'll meet again in July for the next part!
It was really a nice experience, but it seems to me that I will not pass the second part...dont know why
, but I wait the result.Btw when will they send the results? I just hope that it'll be quick!!!
I hope we'll meet again in July for the next part
!I'm not so sure about the second part either, I didn't find any opposite conflicts cause it was too hard and it was the first time I ever saw air traffic exercises but I found about 4-5 local conflicts and then I never had to get the voice repeat the info on the strip when we had to update the time and the altitude.. however I discarded most strips a bit late so I don't know how I did overall.. lets see next week! C ya!
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Great help
Hi STBATCO,
I've only recently been given the link to this thread and it seems to be a rather helpful insight as to what is tested. I have successfully completed my morning tests and moved to the pleasant afternoon test where we got to play a small part of the 'role' of an ATC. I thoroughly enjoyed that test and wished it were longer! I had identified about 3 opposing conflicts, a number of local conflicts and at the same time arranged the aircraft in chronological order while listening out for the announcements. The removal of obsolete aircraft was an easy operation too.
I must say that the testing was somewhat intense and I found myself sweating profusely all the time, but it was more of an anxiety issue that I assume we all get during testing and examination periods. I went unprepared and with barely 4hours of sleep that night as I was stranded at the train station the night of my arrival (clear thinking got me to the hotel, else I'd have spent the night sleeping on a bench and missing the tests completely)! As you said only 5 make it through from 12 to the afternoon period. I guess most fail the morning session due to English standards. It is rather obvious that each and every ATC is required to have complete control over the English language and must proficient in its use.
STBATCO, I have the following questions if you could be so kind to answer: My only hope is that I will be successful. I am determined, now more than ever, to be so.
Hope to hear from you soon!
Regards and best of luck to all of you
I've only recently been given the link to this thread and it seems to be a rather helpful insight as to what is tested. I have successfully completed my morning tests and moved to the pleasant afternoon test where we got to play a small part of the 'role' of an ATC. I thoroughly enjoyed that test and wished it were longer! I had identified about 3 opposing conflicts, a number of local conflicts and at the same time arranged the aircraft in chronological order while listening out for the announcements. The removal of obsolete aircraft was an easy operation too.
I must say that the testing was somewhat intense and I found myself sweating profusely all the time, but it was more of an anxiety issue that I assume we all get during testing and examination periods. I went unprepared and with barely 4hours of sleep that night as I was stranded at the train station the night of my arrival (clear thinking got me to the hotel, else I'd have spent the night sleeping on a bench and missing the tests completely)! As you said only 5 make it through from 12 to the afternoon period. I guess most fail the morning session due to English standards. It is rather obvious that each and every ATC is required to have complete control over the English language and must proficient in its use.
STBATCO, I have the following questions if you could be so kind to answer:
- How long is it till you receive the (e)mail from EUROCONTROL notifying your success/failure to move on to phase 2 testing?
- What exactly goes on in the Phase 2 testing? You mentioned a teamwork test in the morning I believe, followed by an interview. Could you explain the morning tests a bit more please?
- Regarding the interview, if I understood you correctly you said that you know your assigned time within the same day upon successfully passing the morning tests. Is that so?
- What in general is asked during the interview? Could you expand a bit more on the mathematical questions please?
My only hope is that I will be successful. I am determined, now more than ever, to be so.Hope to hear from you soon!
Regards and best of luck to all of you
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Originally Posted by bmontalto
As you said only 5 make it through from 12 to the afternoon period. I guess most fail the morning session due to English standards. It is rather obvious that each and every ATC is required to have complete control over the English language and must proficient in its use.
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I was sleeping this morning and I recieved a phone call that just makes you start the day in such a good mood.. I was told that I had been successfull in both tests the other day and I was invited to the second phase on july 12!!!! who else has been called for that day?? C ya all...
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Originally Posted by fabrifx
the number of people who make it to the afternoon isn't five but it dipends on how many people get a specific score..it can happen that no one passes as it could be that all 12 go on to the afternoon... I did my test thursday, June 15 and 5 passed..A girl told me that on monday she was the only one who passed out of 12 and another guy told me that on wednesday, six passed!
We had the test on the same day I believe. I just got called by Eurocontrol today this morning saying I was successful and am now off to my Phase 2 testing shortly in July 
I really hope that I make it though as aviation is really what I live for.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by bmontalto
Fabrifx, I think I remember you We had the test on the same day I believe. I just got called by Eurocontrol today this morning saying I was successful and am now off to my Phase 2 testing shortly in July
I really hope that I make it though as aviation is really what I live for.
Cheers
We had the test on the same day I believe. I just got called by Eurocontrol today this morning saying I was successful and am now off to my Phase 2 testing shortly in July I really hope that I make it though as aviation is really what I live for.
Cheers
good luck and cheers!
To all you wannabees, don't forget there is another (although slightly less lucrative) option here! http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.4995
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Originally Posted by fabrifx
wait a sec, where are you from? I had the tests thursday june 15..we were 5(+1 girl that passed monday so 6 total).. there was an italian(me!), a bulgarian, a swedish, two belgian, and a hollish.. which one them were u??! Anyways I have the 2 phase test on july 12.. and u bmontalto?
good luck and cheers!
good luck and cheers!
Ooops! I was also called today and have my testing on July 12th so I guess we still get to meet then Cheers and see you!
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Passed phase 1
Hi Fabrifx,
I also passed my first phase and I'll have to go back the 10th of July! If they are good enough I'll have my third phase on the 12th, 13th or 14th of July...
Good luck to all!
I also passed my first phase and I'll have to go back the 10th of July! If they are good enough I'll have my third phase on the 12th, 13th or 14th of July...
Good luck to all!
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Flyingsystem - thank you mate. Fabrifx and others well done!
1.memory numbers - is that in the morning test,what is it?
2.Fabrifx can you explain each step of the strip test and what you need to do beside avoid colisions?
Thank you and good luck to all!
1.memory numbers - is that in the morning test,what is it?
2.Fabrifx can you explain each step of the strip test and what you need to do beside avoid colisions?
Thank you and good luck to all!