Aus Expats - would you go home (with poll)

[Plazbot]

HAhaha. Oh the sands of time. Have a look at DP's comments re: Greg Russell on one of the first pages.

The latest hilarity I heard was that Airservices is calling in hand writing experts to find out who wrote a caption on a picture calling one of the team leaders a monkey! I **** you not!

As for comments about returning, I left with the firm idea in my head that Airservces would not take me back. That may not be the actual case, but all my planning and contingencis are based around never going back. Not saying I will never go back as I am on record on this web site for saying I would never go to the sand either. A few little changes in the employment conditions here and there changed that very quickly.

[ferris]

A fascinating amount of water under the bridge.

Never say never, plaz

[thesunnysideup]

oh yes the monkey story is indeed true. Apparently someonealmost got stood down when innocently bringing in banana lollies on ad a few days later.

[peuce]

If they can afford to stand down Controllers for that ... there mustn't be a shortage anymore!

[thesunnysideup]

Almost got stood down. so there is almost no shortage, right?

[peuce]

Oops! ... I almost read it correctly!

[MrSandman]

What I just noticed is that there are 137 people who have voted in this poll. While some may be non OZ ex pat ATCs, that sure is quite the workforce loss to AsA.

[AirNoServicesAustralia]

I would say that 137 is a fair reflection of the numbers who have left over the years. If you count, Ireland, Germany (both operational and training), Eurocontrol, Canada, Hong Kong, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, UAE Centre, Dubai, Muscat and probably a few more I have missed, each at at least $300,000 a pop in training costs, the drain from ASA has been pretty substantial. The funny thing is you'll find most Aussie Expats would never leave such a beautiful country if they were given a fair go by their employer.

Not the case though hence the mass exodus continues, and most stay away for an extended period.

[suffering aussie]

the tide is changing

An interesting line to follow but for those of you lucky bastards that got out just sit tight a little longer. Management are now saying we are suddenly not short the 120 staff we were a month ago.However AsA has been under investigation for the last year and the independant but not yet public blasting of AsA management, staff handling etc etc etc will soon be exposed publicly for the truth. Management movement has already started but the next few months should undo the rest of them. Showing the ATC world for the truly lying and incompetent 'beings' that they are...all the way up the line. My hope is that with the lashing comes a higher level of understanding of how much damage these current managers are doing to the company. Their refusal to take back experienced controllers was also looked at with disbelief, our failure rate from the college (sorry 'accademy') currently sitting at around 50%. They have even put a trainee out in the field who never passed the college! (he took only a short time till he tried to put two together but was saved by another controller).
We have been quiet to long, the tide is about to turn...

[Plazbot]

No it's not.

For every yes man in a seat there are three in waiting. Your suffering will continue unless YOU take steps to change it.

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Sorry to doom and gloom there but I have been hearing about the turning tide and how 'we'll get them next time' for decades now. Time and time again, it is the STAFF that hijack themselves. If you are a Civil Air member, go and read the discussion about working additional duties after 10 days that includes sick/grey shifts. Are you kidding me? If ever there was a scenario that would be deemed unreasonable it would be this yet people are falling over themselves to do it.

Now working 6 on 4 of, never been called in on a standby shift (TOUCH WOOD) nor have I been asked to do an overtime EVER. Go back to work operational ATC in OZ? OMGLOL!