Newcastle-10

[HH6702]

I wonder if VUELING have any more plans for NCL?

Would be nice but can’t see it happening

more chance of That Turkish carrier

[SJL26779]

Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday flight to Dalaman bookable via TUI is now with Freebird Airlines - was previously TBA. Flight times below.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/750x272/tui_dlm_fhy_tue_a560a4bb2e9cf50d174089b64ca362fb0c4bec27.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/753x291/tui_dlm_fhy_fc3ed6407964317e81b0986e19a0517bde51edb6.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/748x256/tui_fhy_sun_df78e3c5bb698839c2a5af991846f8cf0b71a2a4.jpg


First flight 24th May last inbound flight 28th September.
Very busy Summer at Newcastle for Turkey flights.

[True Blue]

So the Wednesday return flight arrives in Newcastle 15 minutes before it left |Turkey? A 1.45 hour flight.

[ash666]

I seem to be seeing Lufthansa doing LH950 on a Friday.
But how come it is down for a 17.10 departure when Flightradar says dep 16:25 and arr 17:10?

And it also shows LH951 also leaving on a Friday, eg tomorrow, at 17:50???

[SWBKCB]

Not exactly sure what your query is but Lufthansa website shows LH950 arriving NCL from FRA tomorrow at 17.10, departing to FRA as LH951 at 17.50 - as does the airport website and FR24

[ash666]

Oops, mixing up arrivals and departures, doh.

And is LH967 running Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday at 11.20?

[GrahamK]

Oops, mixing up arrivals and departures, doh.

And is LH967 running Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday at 11.20?
Sounds about right, up to 6 or 7 weekly now. Seems to be doing ok

[ash666]

Sounds about right, up to 6 or 7 weekly now. Seems to be doing ok

Great, thanks.

[Jamesair1]

March 22 Airport Stats....SAMPLE ROUTES

PARIS (cdg) ....... 6475
PARIS (orly) ......; 726
DUSSELDORF .... 680
FRANKFURT ..... 2157
DUBLIN.............. 9861
MILAN................. 199
ROME.................2655
AMSTERDAM.....21,268
FARO................... 6387
ALICANTE..........15,222
MALAGA..............7365
ARRECIFE.........10,538
TENERIFE..........19,285
GENEVA..............3042
ANTALYA.............3987
PRAGUE..............2675
KRAKOW.............3297
DUBAI..................9743
BRIDGETOWN.......630
CAPE VERDI.........16

HEATHROW.........25,309
BELFAST.............18,249
BRISTOL................9886
SOUTHAMPTON....3023
EXETER...............1331
ABERDEEN..........564
NEWQUAY...........300

[chris1001]

March 22 Airport Stats....SAMPLE ROUTES

PARIS (cdg) ....... 6475
PARIS (orly) ......; 726
DUSSELDORF .... 680
FRANKFURT ..... 2157
DUBLIN.............. 9861
MILAN................. 199
ROME.................2655
AMSTERDAM.....21,268
FARO................... 6387
ALICANTE..........15,222
MALAGA..............7365
ARRECIFE.........10,538
TENERIFE..........19,285
GENEVA..............3042
ANTALYA.............3987
PRAGUE..............2675
KRAKOW.............3297
DUBAI..................9743
BRIDGETOWN.......630
CAPE VERDI.........16

HEATHROW.........25,309
BELFAST.............18,249
BRISTOL................9886
SOUTHAMPTON....3023
EXETER...............1331
ABERDEEN..........564
NEWQUAY...........300


Am I missing something with Geneva stat? I thought only flights were Jet2 with a weekly flight so how do we get over 3000 pax?

Maybe Vueling might look at Malaga as summer flights are pitiful this year.

[ROC10]

Am I missing something with Geneva stat? I thought only flights were Jet2 with a weekly flight so how do we get over 3000 pax?

Maybe Vueling might look at Malaga as summer flights are pitiful this year.

Pretty sure TUI did NCL-GVA weekly as a ski route.

On another note, what’s up with the 16 for Cape Verde? And which Cape Verde airport is that?

[SWBKCB]

Pretty sure TUI did NCL-GVA weekly as a ski route.

On another note, what’s up with the 16 for Cape Verde? And which Cape Verde airport is that?

The Cape Verde flights were Corendon Europe flts originating in Copenhagen - been a few recently, ships crews I believe? Agree that TUI have been doing GVA as well.

[Jamesair1]

Correct TUI had a weekly Sat flight to Geneva in addition to the weekly Sat flight operated by Jet2.

[HH6702]

Great to see these posts back with positive increases. Be interesting to see what happens over the coming months


March 22 Airport Stats....SAMPLE ROUTES

PARIS (cdg) ....... 6475
PARIS (orly) ......; 726
DUSSELDORF .... 680
FRANKFURT ..... 2157
DUBLIN.............. 9861
MILAN................. 199
ROME.................2655
AMSTERDAM.....21,268
FARO................... 6387
ALICANTE..........15,222
MALAGA..............7365
ARRECIFE.........10,538
TENERIFE..........19,285
GENEVA..............3042
ANTALYA.............3987
PRAGUE..............2675
KRAKOW.............3297
DUBAI..................9743
BRIDGETOWN.......630
CAPE VERDI.........16

HEATHROW.........25,309
BELFAST.............18,249
BRISTOL................9886
SOUTHAMPTON....3023
EXETER...............1331
ABERDEEN..........564
NEWQUAY...........300

[HH6702]

Starts summer 2023

[N707ZS]

How many passengers are on the Ryanair Riga flights.

[tigertanaka]

How many passengers are on the Ryanair Riga flights.

You will need to wait another month for the April numbers.

[N707ZS]

Thanks, noted its very cheep people obviously don't know how nice it is.

[HH6702]

App being updated looks like most routes continue throughout the winter

Riga still 2x weekly but change of operating days

[Jamesair1]

Is it looking like the 2 x aircraft base continues through the winter? They kept referring to it as a "Summer" base.

[CentreFix25]

Anyone know what the exact numbers of based aircraft will be from Sunday 1st. I guess it'll be what we have now with the addition of some TUIs.

[GBYAJ]

Anyone know what the exact numbers of based aircraft will be from Sunday 1st. I guess it'll be what we have now with the addition of some TUIs.

On the TUI thread someone has put together the entire program which showed 1 Max and 3x 738 at NCL plus W flights. The above comments re Freebird made me think that this may have been refined or is it even more flights? Seems too good to be true after the recent few years.

[Maverick97]

On the TUI thread someone has put together the entire program which showed 1 Max and 3x 738 at NCL plus W flights. The above comments re Freebird made me think that this may have been refined or is it even more flights? Seems too good to be true after the recent few years.

From the 1st May we’ll have 4 based a/c. Not sure on how many MAX/NG’s. Looking further ahead looking up to 12 flights per day. Including the W’s and the Dreamliners which will be up to 6 times per week in peak summer.

[LiamNCL]

From the 1st May we’ll have 4 based a/c. Not sure on how many MAX/NG’s. Looking further ahead looking up to 12 flights per day. Including the W’s and the Dreamliners which will be up to 6 times per week in peak summer.

x1 7M8 x3 738

Think the MAX has set routes and starts with FAO (am) & ZTH (pm) on Sunday

[fl dutchman]

So it looks like the following based for summer 22.

7x Jet 2, 738 currently. Increasing to 8.
4x TUI, 738.
2x RYR, 738.
Plus 1xBA, A319/320/321. 1xKL, E190/737. 1xAF, E190/E170. 1x LM E145. Nightstoppers.
In addition to several W movements from a range of airlines.

[Jamesair1]

In the peak summer period, I calculate that Jet 2 need 9 based aircraft to operate their NCL programme.

[irishlad06]

In the peak summer period, I calculate that Jet 2 need 9 based aircraft to operate their NCL programme.

9 has been confirmed in their schedule for peak. (August) with the additional
aircraft coming from EDI or GLA when they are “off peak”

[Asturias56]

aircraft coming from EDI or GLA when they are “off peak” - yes Scots school holidays are a month earlier than most English schools.

[Beatts]

Tui restarting flights soon to Orlando and Cancun twice weekly.

[Jamesair1]

In todays Daily Telegraph......Newcastle is rated joint 3rd best UK airport with Heathrow. They rated the UK's 16 busiest airports in 16 categories...joint bottom airports were Bristol and Leeds/Bradford. Top was London City.
NB Airport Management, before bringing out the Champagne....... Ncl is one of the few airports failing to offer water refill stations......but well done everyone.

[toon22]

BA have certainly got the knife out when it comes to NCL-LHR this Summer. From the initial schedule of up to 7 per day, we are down to a maximum of five and very often just three (or even on one date I looked at, two) per day. Looks like they have given up on point to point traffic this summer end giving all the capacity over to connecting flows. Hope this doesn’t permanently damage the route.

[Beatts]

They are struggling with operational issues namely people resourcing, airport capacity constraints and unstable IT systems. So they are going to be curbing capacity by cancelling around 60 flights a day. Inverness has also seen a large chop of flights not just us.

[HH6702]

BA have certainly got the knife out when it comes to NCL-LHR this Summer. From the initial schedule of up to 7 per day, we are down to a maximum of five and very often just three (or even on one date I looked at, two) per day. Looks like they have given up on point to point traffic this summer end giving all the capacity over to connecting flows. Hope this doesn’t permanently damage the route.

no need to worry about this they will be back. Staffing major issue and ncl has good rail links to London.

they will be back to 7 by next summer

[highwideandugly]

Looks like the airport have major staffing problems also..yet again aircraft holding this morning!

Great planning for the summer season?

[SWBKCB]

Looks like the airport have major staffing problems also..yet again aircraft holding this morning!

Great planning for the summer season?

That'll be the RYR Dublin that landed 2 minutes early, the BA that landed 8 minutes late and the RYR Alicante which was 6 minutes late? Looks like a 15 min break in ATC cover. Not the end of the world, really.

[highwideandugly]

Ok no problem then😀. Suppose holding fuel doesn’t matter much these days or the professional reputation of a major UK airport..

[SWBKCB]

Ok no problem then😀. Suppose holding fuel doesn’t matter much these days or the professional reputation of a major UK airport..

Nice try but you need to give yer head a shake - it was a NOTAM'd 15 minute break, not a major staffing problem.

[Beatts]

Anyone know what ever came of the supposed A330 freight flights?

[SWBKCB]

Supposedly they couldn't get operating permits for HKG.

[highwideandugly]

More holding tonight..including..Shock horror Emirates.

So SWBKCB…just what is going on? Notams issued but a bit of paper doesn’t hide , what really, for a supposedly major NE airport is going on?

Bad planning by management or bad planning by management…?

[SWBKCB]

Presumably the industry wide staff shortages - NCL, MME and Leeming all have closures this week

[highwideandugly]

Teesside closures? Don’t think so…AFS reductions maybe, but no airfield closures?

My point is..can’t remember in years…many years , this ever happening especially at Newcastle, just at a time when airports, airlines and stakeholders (I hate that btw) need to get their act together for the sake of this great industry and the travelling public…

So is it bad management…or bad management!

[nighthawk117]

Teesside closures? Don’t think so…AFS reductions maybe, but no airfield closures?

My point is..can’t remember in years…many years , this ever happening especially at Newcastle, just at a time when airports, airlines and stakeholders (I hate that btw) need to get their act together for the sake of this great industry and the travelling public…

So is it bad management…or bad management!

or a global pandemic of which the like has never been seen before?

[almost professional]

If Newcastle was struggling to recruit/retain ATCOs pre pandemic then that situation will be much worse now, to advertise/recruit/validate someone new minimum 9 months and often over a year if Radar controller needed. I would guess that there is no pool of qualified controllers looking to move after the last couple of years…..

[SWBKCB]

A major travel company has been forced to apologise after passengers arrived in Florida to find that their luggage was over 4,000 miles away in Newcastle. Holidaymakers arrived at Melbourne Orlando International Airport on Monday only to learn that their luggage had not been loaded onto the plane at Newcastle International Airport. Some passengers say they were left without pushchairs, baby formula, nappies and medication due to the error.

OK - sh*t happens and I'm sure there is more to this than meets the eye, but I'm curious as to how you miss a 787 worth of bags at Newcastle?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/florida-holidaymakers-luggage-left-newcastle-23917384

[ash666]

Someone soon needs to be an ex-employee.

[Saabandthecity]

It boiled down to TUI not loading enough containers on the 787 inbound and NCL not stocking them with no other ways to secure the bags in the hold for transit.

For example no pallets or cargo nets and no net retaining system in a hold designed for pallets/containers.

Added to the restriction in the bulk hold for weight and balance purposes.

Hopes this clarifies the situation.

[GrahamK]

Was that why an extra 787 flew BHX-NCL-MAN today.
about the same time as an E3-Sentry was conducting some training.

[SWBKCB]

Yes - the extra 787 came to pick them up.

[skyman771]

It would appear that there remain issues in respect of baggage handling at NCL .
This years flight schedules provide for a number of returning flights that arrive back c.01.00 the following morning.
Case in point last Friday there were five 738's 4xJet2 & 1xTUI that arrived around same time. However the TUI disembarked first & were first through security & into the baggage hall, followed by the pax from the four other Jet2 aircraft.
What then ensued was that the TUI pax had to stand around for an hour & a half whilst all four JET2 flights luggage came through first. An irate conversation then ensued with the baggage supervisor on duty who informed them that JET2 had their own baggage handler whereas TUI used Swissport?....
So what's this all about ?

[N707ZS]

No spare containers at the airport.

[P330]

Hearing of a near 24 hour delay on yesterday‘s Jet2 return leg from Gran Canaria. Looks like the aircraft diverted to Porto on the way home and is still there.

[SWBKCB]

Hearing of a near 24 hour delay on yesterday‘s Jet2 return leg from Gran Canaria. Looks like the aircraft diverted to Porto on the way home and is still there.

The LS542 from Gran Canaria to Newcastle was diverted to Porto, in Portugal, to allow for a "disruptive passenger" to be offloaded from the flight

Jet2 flight to Newcastle diverted to Portugal due to 'disruptive passenger' (https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/jet2-flight-newcastle-diverted-portugal-23974997)

[rog747]

It was usual to be able to bulk load Hold bags on wide bodies like the 767, DC-10 and Tri-Star - just wondered why you cannot on the 787>?

It operates to enough remote holiday airports that the question of always having enough 'cans' available thus could be an issue.
or you carry the empties with you....

Is it (a 787) too fragile to lump the bags straight in the hold>?

[brian_dromey]

What then ensued was that the TUI pax had to stand around for an hour & a half whilst all four JET2 flights luggage came through first. An irate conversation then ensued with the baggage supervisor on duty who informed them that JET2 had their own baggage handler whereas TUI used Swissport?....
So what's this all about ?

Its about the choice Jet2 and TUI have made. Jet2 have their own ground and baggage staff at many UK airports (but not all, I don't think) and even at some European ports too. They handle Jet2 and only Jet2 flights. This is very much against the trend in the industry where the function is usually outsourced to 'experts' - ground handling companies. Because of razor-thin margins in the industry, Swissport is the only company left at a lot of airports. For employees T&C's aren't great, physical work in unergonomic conditions or aircraft holds, in all weather.
Do people get "irate" at the Occao driver when Sainbusry's fails to deliver their shopping on time?

[beedoubleu]

Good news for 23 just read on Edinburgh thread via Routes online

Sun Express starting Ncl (and Brs)

[JKKne]

Apologies if this should be in the SLF forum but are Namco and the Traveller shop still open at Newcastle?

[Jamesair1]

Good news about Sun Express, .presumably we don't know the actual destinations in Turkey or the planned frequencies yet.

[GAXLN]

Good news about Sun Express, .presumably we don't know the actual destinations in Turkey or the planned frequencies yet.

Antalya is the most likely start-up destination

[Jamesair1]

That would put them head to head with fellow Turkish operator Corendon plus Jet2 and TUI

[CabinCrewe]

These operators and routes tend to go round in cycles. Everyone piles on to the same destination for a few seasons, then most pull out. I guarantee Sun Express and Correndon wont be there in same shape in a few seasons
(and not unique to NCL).

[SJL26779]

These operators and routes tend to go round in cycles. Everyone piles on to the same destination for a few seasons, then most pull out. I guarantee Sun Express and Correndon wont be there in same shape in a few seasons
(and not unique to NCL).

Corendon will most likely start Greek flights like they do from Manchester and Gatwick too and have already expressed an interest in expanding routes from the UK

[Jamesair1]

According to Wikipedia... Vueling ceases Paris-Orly on the 15th July.22.

[HH6702]

According to Wikipedia... Vueling ceases Paris-Orly on the 15th July.22.

yes correct was posted on twitter.

shame they haven’t started BCN again

[OzzyOzBorn]

I guarantee Sun Express and Correndon wont be there in same shape in a few seasons

We must consider that pre-pandemic, Thomas Cook Airlines represented a huge amount of capacity between UK airports and Turkey / Greece for the leisure market. They didn't do much to Spain. If those countries want to attract UK tourists in similar numbers going forward, someone has to backfill that lost volume of airseats. The Turkish carriers have taken on that challenge. With Thomas Cook gone, there is a gap for them to fill. TUI and Jet2 can only do so much. They don't need to reinvent the market. Just pick up some of those customers displaced by the loss of Thomas Cook Airlines.

[Jamesair1]

Chatting to a crew member today on a flight into LCY I was told that BA CityFlyer will be operating a charter series between NCL and SALZBURG.....sorry, no further details were given.

[armychap_007]

Chatting to a crew member today on a flight into LCY I was told that BA CityFlyer will be operating a charter series between NCL and SALZBURG.....sorry, no further details were given.

Yes, that's correct. It will be on behalf of TUI Lakes and Mountains. They have operated GLA-SZG charter flights for several years now. The aircraft will operate GLA-SZG-NCL-SZG-GLA on Saturdays. Think this is the first time they have operated the NCL route, in the past it has been operated by TUI and before that flybe.

[Flightrider]

Correct, BA CityFlyer E190 operating:

Saturdays 28May-03Sep
BA4521 GLA-SZG departs 0740
BA4524 SZG-NCL arrives 1330
BA4523 NCL-SZG departs 1500
BA4522 SZG-GLA arrives 2040

10Sep operates GLA-SZG-GLA only

[beedoubleu]

BA Cityflyer did have a Saturday lunchtime W rotation service from NCL in 2011 and pretty sure this was also SZG.

[GAXLN]

According to Wikipedia... Vueling ceases Paris-Orly on the 15th July.22.

It would appear that reports of the demise of Vueling's ORY-NCL route from mid-July may be incorrect. Flights remain on sale after 15th July and appear to run now until 9th September.

[Jamesair1]

Paris (cdg).................9003
paris (ory)..................1251
dusseldorf.................1639
frankfurt....................3965
dublin......................18,356
bergamo................... 2424
rome...........................3148
amsterdam.............22,589
geneva.......................1495
dubai.......................10,996
zadar..........................1735
paphos.......................1735
chania........................2479
malta..........................1259
faro..........................13,810
alicante....................22,589
ibiza............................4590
mahon........................3137
malaga.....................13,337
palma.......................16,893
arrecife.....................12,226
fuerteventura..............6557
gran canaria...............7777
tenerife....................20,970
keflavik........................ 645
antalya.......................9653
dalaman.................... 4349
prague........................2496
riga.............................2073
gdansk.......................3115
krakow.......................3154
wrocklaw...................2128
hurghada...................1798
montego bay...............476
praia..............................16

aberdeen.......................589
belfast......................16,361
bristol.......................15,388
exeter...........................1532
london (lhr)...............28,904
newquay.........................380
southampton...............3278
.

[N707ZS]

Hopefully Teesside's management look at these statistics and can see where their passengers want to fly to as its quite obvious.

[Craig Kelly]

Just a quick observation it looks like they’ve dropped one winter rotation Newcastle to Tenerife in winter 22/23 and Gran Canaria isn’t bookable at all now anyone know if we are to lose anything else ?

[toon22]

Looks like Air France have gone to using mainline equipment, even an A321 this morning! Anyone know the reason?

[Jamesair1]

The Ryanair 2022/23 programme looks like this so far:-

MILAN.......................2 WKLY
ALICANTE.................3 WKLY
DUBLIN.....................6 WKLY
FARO........................2 WKLY
FUERTEVENTURA.....2 WKLY
GDANSK...................3 WKLY
LANZAROTE..............2 WKLY
MALAGA.;.................2 WKLY
TENERIFE.................2 WKLY
KRAKOW..................3 WKLY
WROCLAW...............2 WKLY

DUBLIN IS THE SURPRISE 6 WKLY IS A REALLY LOW FREQUENCY

[deltahotel9]

Looks like Corendon have dropped the Tuesday DLM flight until end of July.

[CabinCrewe]

Looks like Corendon have dropped the Tuesday DLM flight until end of July.
Mmm, that doesn't sound very encouraging. But lots of Turkey overkill generally (a bit like Christmas)

[SWBKCB]

Mmm, that doesn't sound very encouraging. But lots of Turkey overkill generally (a bit like Christmas)

Or a typical Scottich school holidays switch?

[Asturias56]

who would ever have thought you'd have more passengers to Dubai than to Paris? The world has certainly changed!!

[CabinCrewe]

Or a typical Scottich school holidays switch?
Which they have only now become aware of?

[SWBKCB]

Which they have only now become aware of?

And you know it wasn't pre-planned?

[deltahotel9]

They did sell tickets for those flights so if it was pre-planned having to now cancel them and rebook or refund customers is not great PR for a company trying to establish themselves at NCL.

[HH6702]

It’s not just NCL they have cut back from

I’m guessing they will be suffering like everyone else with staffing

[Cat Techie]

Paris (cdg).................9003
paris (ory)..................1251
dusseldorf.................1639
frankfurt....................3965
dublin......................18,356
bergamo................... 2424
rome...........................3148
amsterdam.............22,589
geneva.......................1495
dubai.......................10,996
zadar..........................1735
paphos.......................1735
chania........................2479
malta..........................1259
faro..........................13,810
alicante....................22,589
ibiza............................4590
mahon........................3137
malaga.....................13,337
palma.......................16,893
arrecife.....................12,226
fuerteventura..............6557
gran canaria...............7777
tenerife....................20,970
keflavik........................ 645
antalya.......................9653
dalaman.................... 4349
prague........................2496
riga.............................2073
gdansk.......................3115
krakow.......................3154
wrocklaw...................2128
hurghada...................1798
montego bay...............476
praia..............................16

aberdeen.......................589
belfast......................16,361
bristol.......................15,388
exeter...........................1532
london (lhr)...............28,904
newquay.........................380
southampton...............3278
.
The figures in May certainly for some regional flying will be stronger.

[Cat Techie]

It’s not just NCL they have cut back from

I’m guessing they will be suffering like everyone else with staffing
Handlers certainly are struggling. Lots of new staff not up to speed. Try and help when can.

[Asturias56]

"DUBLIN IS THE SURPRISE 6 WKLY IS A REALLY LOW FREQUENCY"

Well its 3x the frequency to Malaga - no doubt as passenger numbers increase so will the flights

[GrahamK]

Have they run out of fuel at NCL? A lot of outbound seem to be operating via other airports this morning

[skyman771]

Have they run out of fuel at NCL? A lot of outbound seem to be operating via other airports this morning
Yes noticed the TUI 73M on the NCL-CFU only managed as far as EMA, as per FR24 then never made it above FL170, assume all part of the flight plan, & not another "hiccup"...

[Jamesair1]

RYANAIR WINTER 22/23

Winter timetable now changed to:-
DUBLIN 14 WEEKLY 3x M 2 x Tu/W/F/Sa/Su Th x1

[HH6702]

RYANAIR WINTER 22/23

Winter timetable now changed to:-
DUBLIN 14 WEEKLY 3x M 2 x Tu/W/F/Sa/Su Th x1

good news there seems to be a few gaps so hopefully some new routes to come also

[skyman771]

Yes noticed the TUI 73M on the NCL-CFU only managed as far as EMA, as per FR24 then never made it above FL170, assume all part of the flight plan, & not another "hiccup"...
It transpires that there was a complete disaster at NCL this morning insofar as fuel availability is concerned. Very surprised that only one comment re this mess,.
For clarity AT LEAST ELEVEN departures from NCL this morning diverted (EMA x7), (STN x3) , (CGN x1), there may be many more................
Is this due to industrial unrest, & is it ongoing / resolved ?
A significant number of NCL pax affected by this mess, insofar as returning flights then significant delays already eg. LS514 from HER looking like 4 hours due to delays at STN.
Bit of a nightmare I'd say.

[Jamesair1]

Also since my post on the 1st June re Ryanairs Winter 22/23 timetable

Malaga has been increased from 2 to 3 weekly.....Gran Canaria has been re-instated with 2 weekly as has Riga with 2 weekly rotations plus Dublin at 14 weekly.

[Grahamy]

It transpires that there was a complete disaster at NCL this morning insofar as fuel availability is concerned. Very surprised that only one comment re this mess,.
For clarity AT LEAST ELEVEN departures from NCL this morning diverted (EMA x7), (STN x3) , (CGN x1), there may be many more................
Is this due to industrial unrest, & is it ongoing / resolved ?
A significant number of NCL pax affected by this mess, insofar as returning flights then significant delays already eg. LS514 from HER looking like 4 hours due to delays at STN.
Bit of a nightmare I'd say.
How the hell did the airport allow this to happen & who foots the bill for this mess? It must have cost the airlines concerned a fair amount in wasted fuel and landing costs never mind delay compensation costs for retuning customers

[deltahotel9]

Do we know if it was lack of fuel or lack of staff to refuel aircraft? Either way a real mess as others have said. It wasn't mentioned but one or two days last week all early morning departures were delayed, I think it was Thursday or Friday when that was by at least 45 mins to an hour in most cases, maybe connected?

[SWBKCB]

Do we know if it was lack of fuel or lack of staff to refuel aircraft

Both I hear - reportedly a one-off, last week was just the usual mix of stuff

[Chesty Morgan]

At least one airline has been tanking fuel to NCL for at least the last month. Mainly due to hippies glueing themselves to the tankers leaving the refineries, apparently.

[Cat Techie]

It transpires that there was a complete disaster at NCL this morning insofar as fuel availability is concerned. Very surprised that only one comment re this mess,.
For clarity AT LEAST ELEVEN departures from NCL this morning diverted (EMA x7), (STN x3) , (CGN x1), there may be many more................
Is this due to industrial unrest, & is it ongoing / resolved ?
A significant number of NCL pax affected by this mess, insofar as returning flights then significant delays already eg. LS514 from HER looking like 4 hours due to delays at STN.
Bit of a nightmare I'd say.
Nobody does dirty washing online.

[Harold77]

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022-06-06/flights-from-newcastle-diverted-to-refuel-due-to-supply-issues
A spokesperson for Newcastle Airport said: "Due to temporary issues with the supply of aviation fuel to a number of airlines, we experienced some limited disruption to flights from Newcastle Airport this morning.

"Each airline has a contract with a fuel supplier, who then contract fuel deliveries to haulage companies.

"We have been working with all parties to minimise the impact of this disruption and the issue is now resolved. We apologise for any inconvenience caused."

[JKKne]

We’ve got our vests on and we’re ready to get some lunch now.

never has a quote summed up my beloved fellow NCL passengers so much!

[Cat Techie]

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022-06-06/flights-from-newcastle-diverted-to-refuel-due-to-supply-issues
A spokesperson for Newcastle Airport said: "Due to temporary issues with the supply of aviation fuel to a number of airlines, we experienced some limited disruption to flights from Newcastle Airport this morning.

"Each airline has a contract with a fuel supplier, who then contract fuel deliveries to haulage companies.

"We have been working with all parties to minimise the impact of this disruption and the issue is now resolved. We apologise for any inconvenience caused."
I blame it on the lack of supply drivers outside the airfield. No glue specialists about the north east. I do not blame the airport. I blame Boris and the Monkey hangers that caused this.

[Cat Techie]

At least one airline has been tanking fuel to NCL for at least the last month. Mainly due to hippies glueing themselves to the tankers leaving the refineries, apparently.
They may, but it needs to go onto airside on licenced vehicles and drivers. Like any other vehicle on ANY AIRSIDE.

[N707ZS]

Teesside not available for fuel then.

[highwideandugly]

Apparently they are too busy these days to take extra unscheduled traffic 😀

[N707ZS]

Might be short of parking space.

[ATNotts]

Might be short of parking space.

Much more likely Teesside doesn't hold stocks of fuel sufficient to cope with half a dozen "splash and goes" at the drop of a hat, not to mention that some of the airlines may not have handling contracts or fees agreements with MME, such as they do at EMA for example.

[HH6702]

first of many added for winter

Barcelona and Cork

[Jamesair1]

Brilliant.....good to see Barcelona and Cork back again.....BCN operated by inward bound aircraft...Cork by based a/c

[HH6702]

Brilliant.....good to see Barcelona and Cork back again.....BCN operated by inward bound aircraft...Cork by based a/c

1 flight of cork is based the other is cork based.

still no work Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursdays for the second based aircraft I’m expecting more to be announced or amendments.

[SWBKCB]

Here's the airports press release, so doesn't look like anything else for now. So who has operated these routes before - EasyJet and Vueling for BCN, Jet2 and Aer Lingus Regional for ORK - anybody else?

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/ryanair-add-new-flights-to-barcelona-and-cork-from-newcastle-international-airport/

[ukchris82]

Have Air France curt their evening flight permanently.
It used to leave around 16:40 - can't see it on any schedules well into next year.

In fact some days there is only 1 flight a day.

On another note, the Riga flight last weekend that I was on was full both ways.

[Jamesair1]

Good news about the healthy loads on Riga....I noticed that Ryanair have made it a year round route.

[GrahamK]

Have Air France curt their evening flight permanently.
It used to leave around 16:40 - can't see it on any schedules well into next year.

In fact some days there is only 1 flight a day.

On another note, the Riga flight last weekend that I was on was full both ways.

The Air France schedule seems to be 12-14 flights a week at the moment. Th late afternoon flight has operated a couple of times, on a random basis, but as you say, no sign of it returning full time yet. With all the problems KLM are having at AMS though, wouldnt surprise me to see it come back at some point.

[Jamesair1]

SELECTION OF PAX FIGURES FROM NCL.......MAY 22

PARIS (cdg)...................8237
PARIS (orly)...................1331
DUSSELDORF...............1390
FRANKFURT..................3816
DUBLIN.......................16,984
MILAN...........................1685
ROME.......................... 3043
NAPLES........................2517
AMSTERDAM.............24,729
BERGEN.........................153
STAVANGER...................318
DUBAI...........................8187
DUBROVNIK..................2497
SALZBURG............... .......82
VERONA.......................1716
RIGA.............................1855
GDANSK.......................3123
KRAKOW......................3772
WROCLAW...................2120
ORLANDO.....................2366
CANCUN.......................3900
ZADAR..........................1790
LARNACA.,...................5457
PAPHOS.......................8371
CHANIA........................2930
CORFU.........................6203
HERAKLION.................4856
KOS.............................3988
RHODES......................5872
ZAKINTHOS..................6874
MALTA..........................1329
FARO.........................17,458
FUNCHAL.....................1488
ALICANTE..................26,893
GERONA......................2246
IBIZA.........................13,858
MAHON........................8977
MALAGA...................17,277
PAL,MA.....................32,438
REUS..........................,5741
ARRECIFE.................10,993
FUEREVENTURA..........4294
LAS PALMAS................8798
TENERIFE..................18,087
ANTALYA....................11,685
DALAMAN..................14,801
BOURGAS....................3116
HURGHADA..................1388
ENFIDHA......................2607

ABERDEEN............610
BELFAST............16,437
BRISTOL............13,684
EXETER................1304
HEATHROW.......33,012
JERSEY..................566
NEWQUAY..............652
SOUTHAMPTON....3257

[SWBKCB]

420k compared to 520k in 2019.

[VickersVicount]

Surprised at Malta and Paris Orly not going ‘gangbusters’ by looks of it

[Jamesair1]

Total pax number to the end of May.... 2,166,203

[YoungJerry]

I've been on the Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt quite a few times this year and it's always been busy.

Looks like it's a Embraer E90 in the schedule starting tomorrow, so slightly more capacity (and a more comfortable experience in my opinion) than the CRJ900 that has been working the route so far.

[Jamesair1]

Any explanations for the.......... TURKISH AIRLINES TK3235 from ISTANBUL ...arr....1935...,....showing on the Arrivals Board but not for subsequent departure.

now 1627 and it has disappeared from the Board......Flight Radar show it as a scheduled service B738........maybe this is a future route not yet announced?

[SWBKCB]

Basketball international - World Cup qualifier at the Arena on Sunday

[Jamesair1]

Thanks for that info.

[JonnyH]

G-JZBH destined for AYT returned tonight - suspected bird strike.

[fl dutchman]

Four out of Six flights from LHR cancelled today. ( one at short notice)

Only ONE flight from NCL - LHR tomorrow.

Not Good !!

[10 DME ARC]

I've been on the Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt quite a few times this year and it's always been busy.

Looks like it's a Embraer E90 in the schedule starting tomorrow, so slightly more capacity (and a more comfortable experience in my opinion) than the CRJ900 that has been working the route so far.

I have just done LH to LEJ via FRA return and yes the extra seats on the E190 must be good as the CRJ900 was full on way out and very nearly full coming back! But I must say personal preference is for the CRJ900! It really could do with going double daily, Especially when BA first choice for cutbacks is domestic!

[GrahamK]

Emirates frequency increases to 5.x weekly from today, still think the old times were better than the evening times currently used

[GAXLN]

Emirates frequency increases to 5.x weekly from today, still think the old times were better than the evening times currently used

And a visit today from a comparatively rare 777-200LR A6-EWF. Anyone know when the last visit of this type on the DXB service was?

[SWBKCB]

And a visit today from a comparatively rare 777-200LR A6-EWF. Anyone know when the last visit of this type on the DXB service was?

18 March. Quite a few low density a/c operating at the moment. Same every year. Hajj/Ramadan related?

[highwideandugly]

Wonder if Lufthansa will take advantage of the huge Amsterdam onward market (and chaos) and increase flights from Newcastle ?

[SWBKCB]

Wonder if Lufthansa will take advantage of the huge Amsterdam onward market (and chaos) and increase flights from Newcastle ?

Another E190 on tomorrows flight

[BA318]

Wonder if Lufthansa will take advantage of the huge Amsterdam onward market (and chaos) and increase flights from Newcastle ?

FRA also seems to be having it’s fair share of trouble and LH has had to make cancellations so they are probably not in much of a position to capitalise on it.

[P330]

I’m well aware of the airport travel chaos around the UK and beyond, but up until recently, Newcastle has been spared the worst and it’s largely been business as usual.

These last few days, something has changed though with 30 minute to 3 hour delays more frequent than on time departures. Even Jet2 aren’t immune.

Has something changed these last few days or has their luck just run out?

[SWBKCB]

I’m well aware of the airport travel chaos around the UK and beyond, but up until recently, Newcastle has been spared the worst and it’s largely been business as usual.

These last few days, something has changed though with 30 minute to 3 hour delays more frequent than on time departures. Even Jet2 aren’t immune.

Has something changed these last few days or has their luck just run out?

Just busy first thing, I believe and then those delays ripple on through the day.

[Jamesair1]

The ATC strike in Spain is probably not helping the situation either.

[Jamesair1]

Flybe have cancelled......Belfast City to NCL for Summer 22.

[N707ZS]

Was it worth even considering going against Easyjet.

[RA85684]

Different airports, different markets, plenty to go round. They did compete for years anyway. I wouldn't by any stretch say that EZY had the market (or any tbh) 'wrapped up' either

While I don't expect the new Flybe to be around by 2025 and I'm sure it's a basket case. Newcastle - Belfast isn't a daft market to get into and there is enough to go round.

[Jamesair1]

It is currently taking 9 based aircraft to operate the JET 2 timetable from NCL

[SWBKCB]

It is currently taking 9 based aircraft to operate the JET 2 timetable from NCL

An extra a/c arrived last week - the usual Scottish vs English school holidays switch

[inOban]

One of which presumably came from Edinburgh which has lost two, down to 4.

[GBYAJ]

An extra a/c arrived last week - the usual Scottish vs English school holidays switch

have Jet2 ever done this before?

while it’s a good move for both Jet2 and Newcastle I know lots of people who have previously been prepared to drive to EDI from
NCL to save a significant amount of £‘s on foreign holidays due to the non-alignment of school holidays. They just be trying to shut this market down!

Do extra aircraft go into EDi/GLA in June early July?

[GrahamK]

Some Air France changes for September, flights increasing to 17 x weekly, with a 3rd flight operating early evenings on Mon, Wed and Thurs.
Night-stopper and mid morning flights operated by AF mainline, these extra flights operated by Hop!

Given the chaos in AMS, not surprised to see this.

[ash666]

That's all very well if all you want to do is go to Paris and back but hard luck if you have a connecting flight as I learned to my cost recently (not to mention they are Tweeting the problems they are having with getting baggage to passengers).
I am sure NCL knows full well it and its reputation is only as good as the airlines it serves and after my last 2 long haul trips I have vowed never to fly with AF or KLM again so I will have to go to LHR to find a reliable airline that can keep to a timetable.
Which means, of course, that NCL has lost me as a customer through no fault of its own.

[SWBKCB]

so I will have to go to LHR to find a reliable airline that can keep to a timetable.

Good luck with that!

[Jamesair1]

I think you are probably 'chasing the impossible dream'

[ash666]

Could be right but at least I can try. And direct flights from the likes of Thai and Eva means timekeeping are not so important.
I've used Swiss in the past and because they don't fly the long haul route every day they wait for incoming flights so no-one gets left behind.

[chris1001]

Looks like they are going back to old timings this winter?

[fl dutchman]

Looks like they are going back to old timings this winter?

Fantastic news for connections to Australia in particular.

Unfortunatley seems to revert back to the late evening departure from end of March 23.

[GrahamK]

BA schedules being chopped around. Some days in August see0 flights, some days see 1 fligh, some days see 4 flights. KLM flights also being adjusted, with some days seeing 0 flights, some days seeing 1 flight,some days seeing 2 flights

[SWBKCB]

BA schedules being chopped around. Some days in August see0 flights, some days see 1 fligh, some days see 4 flights. KLM flights also being adjusted, with some days seeing 0 flights, some days seeing 1 flight,some days seeing 2 flights

What's your source, KLM website has flights bookable throughout August?

[GrahamK]

What's your source, KLM website has flights bookable throughout August?
look at the week commencing the 8th

[SWBKCB]

At least one flight every day bookable to AMS

[Jamesair1]

Looking like 10 a/c needed now to operate the JET 2 schedule

[Jamesair1]

Pax figures from NCL for JUNE 22.

PARIS (cdg).................12,808
PARIS (orly)....................1119
DUSSELDORF............... 998
FRANKFURT.................4,527
DUBLIN.......................17,597
MILAN...................... ....2953
NAPLES........................2748
ROME...........................2060
AMSTERDAM.............22,552
BERGEN........................400
STAVANGER...................995
RIGA.............................2374
GDANSK.......................3653
KRAKOW......................4293
WROCKLAW.................2670
DUBAI..........................8,720
ORLANDO.....................3303
CANCUN.......................4885
ZADAR.........................2866
DUBROVNIK.................3082
SALZBURG....................698
MALTA.........................1604
LARNACA.....................6382
PAPHOS....................10,595
CHANIA........................2790
CORFU.........................9284
HERAKLION..................7246
KEFFALONIA................2921
KOS.............................5913
RHODES......................9238
SALONICA....................1795
SKIATHOS....................2668
SANTORINI...................1368
ZAKINTHOS..................8999
VERONA..................... 3086
FARO.........................17,250
ALICANTE..................26,794
GIRONA........................2398
IBIZA..........................18,386
MAHON.........................9715
MALAGA.....................17,045
PALMA.......................37,039
REUS............................7421
ARRECIFE..................12,944
FUERTEVENTURA.........5881
LAS PALMAS..............10,683
TENERIFE...................19,513
FUNCHAL......................1284
ANTALYA.....................16,725
DALAMAN...................19,751
BODRUM.......................2797
IZMIR.............................1573
BOURGAS.....................5657
HURGHADA...................1439
ENFIDHA.......................2937

ABERDEEN....................785
BELFAST....................16,313
BRISTOL....................12,988
EXETER........................1564
HEATHROW...............32,399
JERSEY........................1334
NEWQUAY......................903
SOUTHAMPTON............3435

[Jamesair1]

Cumulative Pax No. to the end June......2,613,359

[VickersVicount]

Good old Palma!

[HH6702]

Looking like 10 a/c needed now to operate the JET 2 schedule


is this for Summer 2023 or now

[Jamesair1]

I thought I counted 10 peak period Jet2 departures on one of busiest weekend days in July.....I could have been mistaken....since then it has never been more than 9

[fl dutchman]

Think its just on Saturdays ( 10 aircraft ) Rest of week its 9.

[Falcon900LX]

9th aircraft goes at the end of this month then it's down to 8 I believe.

[Jamesair1]

New Jet 2 route for Winter 23/24 to Malta

[SWBKCB]

Aileen Wallace has been appointed as Cargo Business Development Manager at Newcastle International Airport – working with businesses and other key stakeholders across the region to further develop cargo opportunities from the north east’s largest airport. Bringing over 25 years of experience in cargo to the Airport, including a 10 year career in airfreight at Emirates, Aileen said: “Newcastle International Airport already has fantastic capabilities and is home to over 15 airlines, handling over 400 tonnes of cargo every month. We are keen to continue to grow our cargo presence within the region, and I cannot wait to be a part of it!”

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/newcastle-international-airport-s-cargo-business-development-manager-aims-to-increase-the-regions-connectivity-to-the-world/

[ash666]

Whatever happened to the Emirates 747 money flights?

[SWBKCB]

There have been various Kuwaiti flights over the years, and Dubai VVIP 747 flights. Are De la Rue still in the region?

[SWBKCB]

New Jet 2 route for Winter 23/24 to Malta

Not a full winter schedule, November and March/April only.

[Jamesair1]

Jet2 Ski and City breaks for W. 23/24 still to be announced

[Jamesair1]

I thought the K.A.F. operated the money flights and pretty certain that the Gateshead De La Rue plant is due for closure. the VIP flights are to do with the 'glorious Twelfth' shooting season which is imminent.

[GrahamK]

easyJet re-add Geneva, twice weekly from December.

[Jamesair1]

That's good, hopefully NICE might reappear again one day.

[SWBKCB]

easyJet re-add Geneva, twice weekly from December.

Is this just for the winter?

[CabinCrewe]

Is this just for the winter?
Yes seasonal winter

[ash666]

Any story to the ASL Airlines plane that landed at NCL at 6am today?

[LiamNCL]

Any story to the ASL Airlines plane that landed at NCL at 6am today?

It lands here every morning

[SWBKCB]

Any story to the ASL Airlines plane that landed at NCL at 6am today?

Operates for Fed Ex. The B.734F replaced the ASL Atr-72 that used to route CDG-NCL-GLA-NCL-CDG from the start of the summer season. Now routes CDG-EDI-NCL-EDI-CDG, so day-stops at NCL.

[ash666]

Thanks for the above, just shows my powers of observation.

On a different tack, I'm just back from a bike ride in the Rothbury/Elsdon area and both the BBC and Met agreed that it would be clear blue skies with no rain all morning.
It was largely thick clouds with frequent rain showers.
Where does NCL get its weather forecasts from and are they accurate?

[Jamesair1]

Small change in the Ryanair Winter 22/23 timetable.....KRAKOW reduced from 3 weekly to 2 weekly with the Monday flight cut.

[GrahamK]

Selected July numbers:
Zadar: 2930 (86% loads)
Paris CDG 10340
Paris Orly 2634 (best month by far on this route - 66% loads)
Dusseldorf 2239
Frankfurt 4674
Dublin 16898
Bergamo 3116 (91.6% loads)
Amsterdam 20690
Alicante 28170
Palma 41240
Tenerife 22202 (not very often that this number is higher than GLA)
Bergen 706
Stavanger 1150
Antalya 18050
Dalaman 22795
Riga 2786 (81.9% loads)
Dubai 15117 (76% loads)

Heathrow 22662
Belfast Int 18334

[SWBKCB]

Massive jump on the Dubai, almost as much as LHR has dropped...

[GrahamK]

Massive jump on the Dubai, almost as much as LHR has dropped...
The saturday flight re started in July mind on.

[SWBKCB]

The saturday flight re started in July mind on.

Yes, but- 8,720 to 15,117 is quite a jump, not just the extra flight.

[GrahamK]

Yes, but- 8,720 to 15,117 is quite a jump, not just the extra flight.
Yes, loads jumped from 60% in June up to 76 in July

[ash666]

Any reason for Orly doing so well?

[Jamesair1]

Good to see Orly catching on at last, maybe Vueling will have to think again about ending it in September.

[skyhawk1]

Possibly due to school hols and families going to Disney.

[VentureGo]

From tomorrow FR24 showing Air France mainline operating twice daily using A319 (AF1058/9 & AF1558/9)

[ash666]

From tomorrow FR24 showing Air France mainline operating twice daily using A319 (AF1058/9 & AF1558/9)

No good if they can't make connections.
After my last 3 trips with AF and KLM I've had it with connections and being lied to at AMS so my next trip will be from LHR and to hell with the immig queues.

[Jamesair1]

Ryanair expected to release the summer 2023 schedules in early September......have they been happy with the new bases performance?....any rumours of new routes..... expansion ?

[NorthEasterner]

I would expect the continuation of BCN and ORK into the summer schedule.

[SJL26779]

Ryanair expected to release the summer 2023 schedules in early September......have they been happy with the new bases performance?....any rumours of new routes..... expansion ?

Some routes have been on sale for a while

[HH6702]

Some routes have been on sale for a while


personally I wouldn’t say we would see anything new until the turn of the year.
summer 2023 is a way off and people maybe holding off booking due to increases in gas etc for over the winter.

would be nice to keep at least what we have and maybe a slight increase

[Jamesair1]

NCL losing the NEWQUAY winter flights by Loganair in line with other airports because of their current spat with Newquay airport. Hopefully should be restored in S23.

[Iank72]

I am booked on to BA1325 on Monday 24th October, looking on BA.com this flight (and our 13.55 return) are no longer bookable. Is it possible that both these flights are fully booked and no longer bookable or probably binned and we'll be contacted nearer the departure date with alternative flights.

[GAXLN]

Yes, only southbounds that day are now BA1321, 1327 and 1335.

[Iank72]

Yes, only southbounds that day are now BA1321, 1327 and 1335.
Thanks, no doubt we'll be contacted nearer departure with alternative flights.

[GBYAJ]

I am booked on to BA1325 on Monday 24th October, looking on BA.com this flight (and our 13.55 return) are no longer bookable. Is it possible that both these flights are fully booked and no longer bookable or probably binned and we'll be contacted nearer the departure date with alternative flights.

I’d booked BA1329 (3pm ish departure from
NCL for mid Oct and have been advised that it’s cancelled and offered BA1327. Looks like the 🚂!

[SWBKCB]

1 September 2022 marks 15 years since Emirates, the world’s largest international airline, connected Newcastle International Airport to the world via Dubai.

Richard Jewsbury, Emirates Divisional Vice President in the UK, commented: “Fifteen years marks a significant milestone for Emirates and Newcastle International Airport. We are delighted to celebrate this longstanding relationship and look forward to continue providing our world-class services in the region following increased demand post pandemic.”

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/emirates-celebrate-15-years-at-newcastle-international-airport/

[Iank72]

I’d booked BA1329 (3pm ish departure from
NCL for mid Oct and have been advised that it’s cancelled and offered BA1327. Looks like the 🚂!
We're are booked onto AA105 from LHR to JFK, only option will be BA1321, just means we'll be in Heathrow longer than expected.

[N707ZS]

Has Newcastle got the new scanners for departures or do you still have to plastic bag all of your 100ml items.

[SWBKCB]

Details are on the airport website:

https://content.newcastleairport.com/preparing-for-travel/security-advice/

[ash666]

Has Newcastle got the new scanners for departures or do you still have to plastic bag all of your 100ml items.

That almost re-defines optimism.

[N707ZS]

Thanks both.

[Gsm1]

Went to Belfast from Teesside last week they have the new scanners, no need to take any plastic bags etc. just needs more flights!

[SWBKCB]

Isn't this 'telling us again" rather than 'announcing" , thought these were already on sale?

Ryanair will fly six new routes from Newcastle International Airport as part of its largest ever winter schedule from the North East. Sun seekers and city breakers are being offered flights to Barcelona, Cork, Bergamo, Fuerteventura, Gran Canaria and Riga. All destinations will see twice weekly flights using the airline's two aircraft that are permanently based at Newcastle.

Speaking to ChronicleLive, Jason McGuinness, Ryanair director of commercial, said: "The Newcastle team are exceptionally good and exceptionally proactive. Richard Knight and his team have done a great job and they're reaping the rewards in terms of the continuation of the Ryanair two base aircraft into winter. All through summer when we had lots of chaos at Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester etc - Newcastle performed exceptionally well, like ourselves. They run a very good, tight ship there."

Ryanair announces six new winter flights from Newcastle (https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ryanair-announces-six-new-winter-24950921)

[HH6702]

Summer 2023 now on sale and starts with 3x weekly flights. That’s a good start hopefully more will follow.

[SJL26779]

Summer 2023 now on sale and starts with 3x weekly flights. That’s a good start hopefully more will follow.

Tuesday Thursday and Saturday flights

[SWBKCB]

Summer 2023 now on sale and starts with 3x weekly flights. That’s a good start hopefully more will follow.Award-winning leisure airline, SunExpress, has announced a new service from the North East’s largest airport to the Turkish sunshine resort of Antalya, three times a week, for summer 2023. The new service, will depart Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays from March 28 through to October 28, 2023.

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/sunexpress-announces-new-3-weekly-service-from-newcastle-international-airport-to-antalya-turkey-for-summer-2023/

[SJL26779]

Anyone know the reason for the TUI rescheduled Cancun flight from this morning to tomorrow?

[LiamNCL]

Anyone know the reason for the TUI rescheduled Cancun flight from this morning to tomorrow?

TUIA is AOG after arriving in from DSA likely not another 787 free today

[SJL26779]

TUIA is AOG after arriving in from DSA likely not another 787 free today

G-TUIL operating today's flight after it positions in from Manchester. Great to see a 789 at Newcastle.

G-TUIA must be pretty sick


UPDATE original aircraft G-TUIA now being used

[SJL26779]

Anyone have any ideas what is happening with the delayed TUI please

[GrahamK]

Anyone have any ideas what is happening with the delayed TUI please
Waiting for Hurricane Ian to disappear.

[SWBKCB]

CAA stats out - I make it 517k compared to 603k in 2019.

Selected totals - 2022 vs 2019

PMI 54,197 42,162
ALC 39,832 27,701
LHR 39,654 21,496
AMS 31,225 22,397
AGP 29,677 18,260
BFS 24,967 19,204
FAO 23,903 18,657
DLM 23,625 24,399
DXB 23,038 16,586
DUB 20,182 17,149
BRS 16,979 10,473
AYT 13,668 19,313
CDG 12,105 9,161
SOU 10,104 3,887
FRA 3,858 0
DUS 2,623 3,275
JER 1,336 4,802
SVG 1,152 1,340
NQY 1,102 695
ABZ 764 1,383

[GrahamK]

88% loads on Dubai, not too shabby.

[CabinCrewe]

88% loads on Dubai, not too shabby.
At 5/wk you’d hope so…

[GrahamK]

At 5/wk you’d hope so…
Now now Mr/Mrs Negativity :)

[Jamesair1]

Point to note.....NCL pax figures reached 3,402,111 by the end of August. Probably won't top 5m but should come reasonably close......recovery going well.

[GrahamK]

NCL named UK and Ireland airport of the year.
NCL named Airport of the Year by TTG (https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/newcastle-international-named-uk-and-irish-airport-of-the-year/)

[Jamesair1]

Congratulations to all involved.

[Beatts]

https://www.business-live.co.uk/enterprise/losses-widen-newcastle-airport-passenger-25167430

[JKKne]

I have to say I am enjoying travelling through Newcastle a lot more than I used to.

I've found security far more efficient - it works better when the queue is manned but I've not waited more than 5 minutes on several trips this summer and the car park ops are spot on. Even Border Force have been pretty efficient.

My only tiny criticisms:

There stil isn't quite enough seating around the terminal when all the charter bucket and spade flights head out.
The old WH Smith/Aspire entrance by the Gates - that whole area looks very dark shabby and would be nice as a quieter waiting area.
The same goes for gate corridors etc - just needs a bit of TLC I feel.
Shame the old arcade area went - the airport has had one for as long as I can remember - used to enjoy taking the grandkids in but looks no more! Would be nice for kids to have more to do (if I can peel away their tablets -which might be the problem)
I've had to queue for the toilets each time - another set may be handy! Space I guess may be an issue?

[Rutan16]

Great choice to be honest rather than a certain Peel owned facility imho.

[HH6702]

Ryanair has added Shannon 3x weekly from March 2023

[Travel Agent]

Part of press release re Jet2 Summer 2024:Newcastle International Airport


34 sun destinations on sale (peak number of flights per week in brackets)
Antalya (8), Bodrum (2), Dalaman (9), Izmir (2), Tenerife (8), Lanzarote (5), Fuerteventura (2), Gran Canaria (3), Reus (3), Alicante (9), Malaga (7), Girona (1), Palma (Majorca) (13), Ibiza (7), Menorca (3), Faro (Algarve) (7), Madeira (1), Crete (Heraklion) (3), Crete (Chania) (1), Corfu (3), Halkidiki (1), Kefalonia (2), Skiathos (1), Santorini (1), Kos (2), Rhodes (3), Zante (4), Larnaca (3), Paphos (2), Verona (1), Bulgaria (Bourgas) (2), Dubrovnik (1), Malta (2), Jersey (1)
Over 120 departing weekly flights during peak periods

[SWBKCB]

So the obvious question is how does that compare to 2022 and 2023? Nine aircraft base?

[Diff Tail Shim]

Congratulations to all involved.
Thank you.

[skyhawk1]

Emirates flights on sale daily from December on their website. Not seen anything official from them or airport. Can anyone out there confirm as it’s good news if true.

[sunshine79]

Emirates flights on sale daily from December on their website. Not seen anything official from them or airport. Can anyone out there confirm as it’s good news if true.

I've just checked March and no Tuesday or Thursday flight. Could be extra flights in December because of the World Cup in Qatar.

[GAXLN]

I've just checked March and no Tuesday or Thursday flight. Could be extra flights in December because of the World Cup in Qatar.

They are on sale for the rest of the winter timetable period. I have just checked CRS availability.

[Jamesair1]

I see that NCL are attending the Routes conference.....hope some new routes come out of it.
I would like to see Lisbon and maybe Istanbul a return of Nice...Oslo and Copenhagen.

[Beatts]

https://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/news/23076563.newcastle-international-airport-upgrades-security-area/

[N707ZS]

Wonder if they might replace the beat-up couches in the departure shed.

[JonnyH]

Have Ryanair confirmed their summer schedule S23 yet? There were whispers Chania might be dropped.

Majority of routes UK wide are not for sale on their website.

[Beatts]

Back up to flights a day to Heathrow from Mon.

[SWBKCB]

Back up to five flights a day to Heathrow from Mon.

Number of flights added! :ok:

[BHX5DME]

Turkish looking at 28 new destinations and Newcastle is listed (the only UK one)

[Jamesair1]

FLYBE timetable now showing

LONDON (LHR)....MON - FRI dep. 1550
from 7th Nov.
BELFAST (BHD)...from 7th Nov. M - F & S Then increasing to DAILY. from 14th Nov

LHR ...unexpected development....BHD expected.

[toon22]

Have a look at the market shares between easyJet and flybe when flybe 1.0 last flew the route. Flybe had a maximum of 15% share and had already dropped the route from it’s Belfast network. Add to that, the folly of a once daily service to Heathrow where 80% of the traffic is connecting. How long can this shambles last?

[Jamesair1]

LHR might be a case of finding use for one of the slots it holds there. BHD ....I agree with your observations...... EZY has that market pretty well sewn up....when I look at the EZY/RYANAIR monthly figures, I hadn't realised just how big the NCL - IRELAND market is....with Cork now operating and Shannon being added next year.

[CabinCrewe]

LHR ...unexpected development.....
I give it a loss making 12 months….

[onion]

Within 2 years Newcastle Airport Local Authority Holding company (owners of the airport) need to find and pay £188m worth of debts off, including around £60m this year.
With interest rates as they are and a balance sheet that has been heading oneway over the last few years, who is going to pick up the tab?
Currently Newcastle is a £400m black hole owned by the North East tax payer!

[ATNotts]

I give it a loss making 12 months….
Was that a typo? Didn't you mean weeks?

An iceberg lettuce might outlast it.

[SWBKCB]

I make the September figures 470k without Bristol which was 10k in August. Sept 2019 was 554k. The big losers are Palma, Alicante, Malaga and LHR which are all down over 10k each compared to 2019. Canaries are up (Tenerife and Las Palmas).

Despite all the reported difficulties AMS and CDG virtually identical to 2019, as is DUS. Aberdeen massively down, as is Southampton - about a third of 2019. Maybe that might have been a better chaoice for BE...

[N707ZS]

Palma is probably Teesside locals realising they can fly from nearer home. I can also say a friend priced Edinburgh cheaper for Alicante for a family of five.

[SWBKCB]

Palma is probably Teesside locals realising they can fly from nearer home.

If it was all of those flying from MME rather than NCL, that would be a third of the reduction.

I can also say a friend priced Edinburgh cheaper for Alicante for a family of five.

Probably the long standing price effect of the difference in school Summer holiday timings.

[sunshine79]

Interesting to see TK have added NCL to 'where we fly from' Unfortunately the flights are not loaded at the moment.United Kingdom flight detailsTurkish Airlines flies to five different locations in United Kingdom: Edinburgh (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-edinburgh/), Birmingham (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-birmingham/), London (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-london/) (two different airports), Manchester (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-manchester/) and Newcastle.

London Heathrow Airport (LHR) is regarded as the busiest airport serving in United Kingdom with the number of 76 million passengers per year. The second busiest airport is Gatwick Airport (LGW) which is also in London, serving to 43 million passengers each year. Manchester Airport (MAN) reaches the annual passenger number of 23 million as the third busiest airport countrywide.

Direct flights by Turkish Airlines from Istanbul Airport (IST) take four to four and a half hours in average. The points of destination vary as Birmingham Airport (BHX), London Gatwick Airport (LGW), London Heathrow Airport (LHR), Manchester Airport (MAN) and Newcastle International Airport (NCL).

Lets hope this comes to fruition.

[SWBKCB]

Interesting to see TK have added NCL to 'where we fly from' Unfortunately the flights are not loaded at the moment.United Kingdom flight detailsTurkish Airlines flies to five different locations in United Kingdom: Edinburgh (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-edinburgh/), Birmingham (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-birmingham/), London (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-london/) (two different airports), Manchester (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-manchester/) and Newcastle.

London Heathrow Airport (LHR) is regarded as the busiest airport serving in United Kingdom with the number of 76 million passengers per year. The second busiest airport is Gatwick Airport (LGW) which is also in London, serving to 43 million passengers each year. Manchester Airport (MAN) reaches the annual passenger number of 23 million as the third busiest airport countrywide.

Direct flights by Turkish Airlines from Istanbul Airport (IST) take four to four and a half hours in average. The points of destination vary as Birmingham Airport (BHX), London Gatwick Airport (LGW), London Heathrow Airport (LHR), Manchester Airport (MAN) and Newcastle International Airport (NCL).

Lets hope this comes to fruition.

That bit about Newcastle has been on their website for quite a while for some reason...

[SWBKCB]

That bit about Newcastle has been on their website for quite a while for some reason...

Since at least September 2021

[jensdad]

Since at least September 2021
Could this be either a reference to the Sun Express flights, or maybe a codeshare? I know they're part of Star Alliance, so do they share on Lufty's FRA-NCL route?

[CabinCrewe]

TK would surely eat significantly into EK transfer numbers (and maybe further erode BA) Can’t see it generating huge amounts extra new inbound or point to point.
Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

[SWBKCB]

TK would surely eat significantly into EK transfer numbers (and maybe further erode BA) Can’t see it generating huge amounts extra new inbound or point to point.
Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

Which is the same arguement put forward when EK started, etc etc

[HH6702]

This will happen and by the sounds of it in time for next summers peak.

if it is to compete with EK, KLM etc I would expect to see the route at least 5 x weekly using 737/320’s etc

[SWBKCB]

Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

Presumably the references to Kabul and Tehran were an attempt to be funny, but EK do serve Kabul. TK serve many places in the former Soviet Union and Africa which aren't covered by EK