Newcastle-10

[SWBKCB]

Look harder - next one's tomorrow morning.

See this from March:

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/air-france-resumes-flights-to-paris-from-newcastle-international-airport/

[ash666]

I stand corrected.
Every 2-4 days.

[highwideandugly]

£4 now for 10 mins..that will please the Teesside mayor!

[GrahamK]

or 15 mins free if you don't mind walking for 3 minutes...

[oldart]

Are you talking about walking from the Long stay car park? I thought that had been stopped.

[skyman771]

GBYAJ

Interestingly I was up at NCL this afternoon for a Covid test, & looking across at the ramp, then partially visible were the tails of a number 4? Tui 738's & a 788?, presumed still in storage ?
It presented a very sad state of affairs, given that it's now Mid July & approaching peak season, so appears unlikely of any significant utilisation this year.
In looking at the NCL arrivals / departures board of late then very few Tui movements & in any event NCL isn't currently even currently a designated base.
With this amount of hardware lying about & no doubt dozens more elsewhere, another missing season, public confidence / optimism at a low. Then for someone who has been around NCL for many, many years, then it's all presents a surreal scene,
One just wonders how long this situation is sustainable before something gives.
One thing is for certain you can't run an airline on optimism for the future alone...

[The Flying Stool]

From Monday 19th, both Jet2 and TUI will be flying a considerably larger flying programme to amber list destinations. This is pretty much everywhere they would normally go apart from Turkey.

[Atlantic Explorer]

Lets see how long that lasts given the huge increase in infections in the UK. Think a lot of countries will start to get nervous letting the Brits in to holiday with the infection rate. I can see dark clouds ahead.

[SWBKCB]

There's been three 738's operating most days from NCL?

[fl dutchman]

3 x TUI 738 and 5 x Jet 2 738 flying Monday.

[skyman771]

Is this not simply "papering over the cracks"?. .. 3 TUI departures from NCL in morning to PMI, CFU & IBZ returning in afternoon & that's it for the day.

SWBKCB There's been three 738's operating most days from NCL?

Think you are confusing JET2, ref TUI then quite a few days last week when one / no flights !

Incidentally I understand that TUI's stated policy was that they were not operating to any destination on where isolation was required on return, i.e. the previous Amber Criteria. As such there remains a very limited market for TUI to operate.

Finally what's going on with TFS, one of the most popular routes & "nothing" not even on a Friday traditionally the most popular day.

Reality unfortunately is that things are as far from Normal" as they have ever been & the airport for much of the day resembles a ghost gown.

[fl dutchman]

Obviously the airport and every other airport is nowhere near as busy as things were pre Covid. But its a start. (28 departures on Monday.)

[GBYAJ]

Stating the obvious unfortunately Skyman. Who’d have thought seeing TFS back on the departure boards tomorrow would be an exciting event!

[skyman771]

Yes on looking at tomorrow's departures board, then a lot more on offer, albeit predominantly Spanish destinations.
It would be nice to think that the volume of flights on offer would continue to grow, however the only certainty at this point where growth is concerned is that of the infections as regularly displayed on Govt graphs.
Indeed dare I say that insofar as the growth of traffic has concerned, then it may soon be approaching a peak for the time being.

[GrahamK]

Loganair dropping ABZ after 1st August?

[SWBKCB]

Still seems to be some 'odd' (couple a week) flights for sale in Sept/Oct

[Atlantic Explorer]

ABZ/ NCL/SOU routes confirmed as cancelled.

[fl dutchman]

NCL-SOU Still Bookable. 2x Daily ( 3xDaily from Sept)

NCL- ABZ Gone

[Saabdriver1]

NCL-SOU is definitely continuing, as are other NCL routes to Exeter, Newquay and across to Norway from next summer.

[Jamesair1]

Is the ABZ cancellation permanent or temporary?
I noticed in the CAA May stats that far more pax were travelling to ABZ from MME than NCL.
Maybe Eastern will return!

[SWBKCB]

The price competition at MME won't have done the route NCL any favours.

[highwideandugly]

Yes , but can the mayor continue to subsidise indefinitely? I suppose he and his extravaganza on the airport must be held accountable eventually?

It’s ironic as he is trumpeting new investment and jobs on Teesside..but a lot of skilled workers still off to Aberdeen and the oil fields!

EasyJet with a quick low cost Aberdeen route would blow Loganair out of the water !

[VickersVicount]

Not enough to fill an EZY A320 on low fares I wouldn’t have thought. Don’t hold your breath for that route.
These short EZY domestic routes will be gone this time next year.

[Saabdriver1]

A big part of the problem is apparently the offshore shift pattern changes and testing requirements.

Where you used to have a full flight north on Monday morning, many of those now need to go north on Saturday and Sunday for company PCR tests and depending on who you work for, quarantine. To carry the same number of passengers, you’d need three flights instead of one. On a route where road and rail is an option, it’s just not practical.

[Jamesair1]

A shame to see the closure of a route which dates back to Air Anglia days. Do the shift pattern changes etc not also apply to MME operations? This route seems to have healthier loads.

[highwideandugly]

Yes but MME routes heavily subsidised by those with money!

[SWBKCB]

Jamesair1

What MME has is two airlines competing so prices are lower. Interesting to see how long that is sustainable.

[SWBKCB]

A bit early to be looking at CAA stats I know, but one which raised an eyebrow was BFS. Almost 50% of pre Covid figures. June 2019 - 23,435. June 2021 - 10,695

[Jamesair1]

I noticed that as well....must be pretty high demand, even in these tricky times. Below, are the rest of the stats.

PARIS...................295
CORFU..................75
DUBLIN................423
AMSTERDAM.....5871
FARO.................2060
ALICANTE..........1615
MALAGA............1023
PALMA................469
WROCKLAW.......350

ABERDEEN..........511
BELFAST..........10,505
BRISTOL.............4219
EXETER................585
HEATHROW.........8152
JERSEY.................176
NEWQUAY.............651
SOUTHAMPTON...2007

[HH6702]

Faro now year round 2x weekly

rumours of more to follow

[Jamesair1]

31 Departures on the board for tomorrow......things are looking up

[vectisman]

I'm not saying you are incorrect, but Flightradar24 is currently showing 38 departures tomorrow. So could be even better!

[ericlday]

Don't always believe FR24, shows some that will not be on the schedule.

[vectisman]

I realise that! That's why I said 'I'm not saying your are incorrect'

[Jamesair1]

I do think the airport board is more likely to be correct, like ERICLDAY I have seen flights on FR24 that I know are not operating.

[HH6702]

Opens March 2022

11 new routes
2 based aircraft

[CabinCrewe]

Had FR ever ‘based’ aircraft at NCL before?
Wonder if any link with closure of Belfast base?
Im guessing this will just spread the pot thinner amongst all the current operators on duplicating routes- who’ll be first to drop or reduce?

[HH6702]

4 brand new routes to ncl.
Riga being one of them

[GBYAJ]

guys, no doubt it’s true but is there a link yet to a full story?

[SWBKCB]

Not yet - announcement expected later today at an event at the airport.

[CCFAIRPORT]

The new routes should be

Bergamo
Fuerteventura
Gran Canaria
Krakow
Lanzarote
Paphos
riga .
Tenerife
Ibiza
Menorca
Chania and Zadar now for summer 2022

[N707ZS]

The coast near Riga has some nice beech resorts.

[SWBKCB]

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/ryanair-add-12-new-routes-21234130

So which ones aren't currently served by anybody from NCL - Riga and Bergamo for sure, and Zadar and Chania?

[RA85684]

I wouldn't have thought there will be too much dilution of other carrier's networks with this base. Ryanair are probably more likely to bring growth with cheaper fares and bring the pax back to NCL that would have ordinarily leaked out to EDI/LBA/MAN. Since S19 NCL has also lost x6 based aircraft between TCX and EZY. These have now just about been covered. All being well, and covid dependent, x5 of those based aircraft have been recovered. x1 from TUI, x2 from Jet2 and x2 from Ryanair, as well as the new routes from Vueling and Corendon, S22 is really starting to look up. It is a shame that NCL appears to have lost it's fair split of Business/leisure/charter traffic that was always held onto for so long, but in comparison to similar sized airports, we do rather well. Here's hoping EK come back, LH stay and grow to a more feasible x2 daily rotation and BA/AF/KL/LM recover their networks.

Ryanair summer 2022 looks as follows:
Dublin - x11 weekly (DUB based - there appears to be a NCL based afternoon rotation scheduled on Saturdays but they all currently appear as 'sold out' - so could be x12 weekly)
Alicante - x7 weekly (ALC based)
Fuerteventura - x2 weekly
Gran Canaria - x2 weekly
Ibiza - x3 weekly
Lanzarote - x2 weekly
Malaga - x2 weekly (AGP based - reduced from x4/5 weekly)
Menorca - x3 weekly
Palma - x7 weekly (PMI based)
Tenerife - x2 weekly
Faro - x4 weekly (FAO based)
Gdansk - x2 weekly (GDN based)
Krakow - x3 weekly
Wroclaw - x2 weekly (WRO based)
Riga - x2 weekly
Milan Bergamo - x2 weekly
Chania - x2 weekly
Paphos - x2 weekly
Zadar - x2 weekly

Not a bad setup, just off to pick which ones I'm going to use now!

[NorthEasterner]

KRK starts October 2021. Using KRK based aircraft, before switching to NCL based aircraft once base opens.

[Jamesair1]

Any news on the new cargo airline....has it any a/c at NCL?

[SWBKCB]

No - didn't operate a flight.

[HH6702]

Any ideas what is happening has this operation failed or is there hope it will still be happening ?

[highwideandugly]

Can’t believe Easy Jet aren’t interested in a Newcastle Aberdeen route? (Or someone?)

250 plus miles..terrible roads and two areas with massive planned and current industrial development?

A route that has operated for 50 years?
Don’t understand 🤔

[inOban]

A train every couple of hours (every hour if you change at Edinburgh ). Apart from a 20 mile stretch south of Berwick, almost all the road is a dual carriageway. Admittedly the Edinburgh bypass is usually solid, and the Dundee section is iffy. As against 2 flights a day at best?

[tigertanaka]

Strange that Teesside seems to be able to sustain 3 flights a day to Aberdeen (even with the Mayor's money and two operators on the route) and Newcastle is not. Clearly the Chemical and Oil/Gas industries are more evident in Teesside but Newcastle is a far larger market and the train still takes ages.

[HH6702]

Aberdeen will be back once the demand picks up.

[mmeman]

Historically of course, Teesside has always had more passengers to Aberdeen than Newcastle, up until Loganair started in 2019 and Eastern were having issues with reliability - CAA passengers figures from previous years - 2014 –
Teesside – 35034
Newcastle - 30168

2015 -
Teesside – 28224
Newcastle – 20788

2016 -
Teesside – 13225
Newcastle – 8925

2017-
Teesside – 17508
Newcastle – 11410

2018-
Teesside – 21496
Newcastle – 10923

2019-
Teesside – 17055
Newcastle – 22215

[highwideandugly]

And cancelled Teesside!

[mmeteesside]

Well that’s a very predictable move - looks to be once a day Sun-Fri with a J41

[Jamesair1]

Exactly what I thought would happen....and gradually increase frequencies as pax levels recover.

[HH6702]

Looks like EK have pulled out for winter 2021/22

[LiamNCL]

Seem to be operating from October 15th EK33/34 Arriving 19:10PM departing to Dubai at 21:10

[SWBKCB]

Seems to be a handful of student (?) flights in October and at Christmas - although mid-October seems a bit late for students?

[skyhawk1]

on EK website they have flights mon, wed, fri and sun from mid October. Hope they are coming back.

[SWBKCB]

But only in October? Can't find any in Nov or Dec?

[sunshine79]

EK have brought forward their re-start date. It was due to be 1st September. New flight times are so much better. They ,ay be re-editing the winter schedule which is why its not on sale. They are using STN flight times and flight number instead of the usual NCL EK35/36 times

[GrahamK]

Available throughout winter on EK33/34.

[SWBKCB]

sunshine79

Yes, bookable now.

[fl dutchman]

Bit confused. Appears its bookable from the end of October. MWFSu. ( Not brought forward from 1 Sept)

[SWBKCB]

It looks like Emirates have been updating their website over the past 24hrs - flights are bookable from 15 October, mainly four times a week but some weeks vary.

[FRatSTN]

They are using STN flight times and flight number instead of the usual NCL EK35/36 times

EK033/034 were the old STN flight numbers when the service launched single daily in 2018 as an afternoon arrival/evening departure, with a long layover inbetween.

When it went double daily from July 2019 the new flight numbers became EK065/066 and EK067/068. They're showing STN from March 2022 with just the afternoon EK065/066 rotation.

EK033/034 hasn't been used since, and the NCL winter timings are not the same as the previous STN times, which was a 17:45 arrival (EK067) and 20:15 departure (EK068).

[N707ZS]

Any update on the A330F, it seems to have gone quiet and doesn't seem to be operating.

[Jamesair1]

Several of us have put up a question about this and the new cargo operation which seemed to have started up........ but no-one seems to have any information.

On a different matter....with 36 departures on the board tomorrow, this must be the highest so far...with Jet2 using 7 a/c

[beedoubleu]

The only info on the cargo op is that the aircraft that was parked here for a few weeks (9H-LFS) is being used out of Kiev to various destinations, so draw your conclusions from that. Cancelled or delayed ?

[ATNotts]

The resumption of more EK schedules and the associated increase in belly hold capacity will probably be the death knell for what was probably an opportunist project.

[SWBKCB]

It's in the Chronicle, so it must be true!Nick Jones, Chief Executive of Newcastle Airport said: “We are delighted that Emirates has brought forward its return to Newcastle International Airport and the North East with four weekly flights throughout the winter. A change of flight times to an evening departure will mean passengers can maximise their stay in Dubai whether on holiday or business whilst also ensuring connectivity to worldwide destinations via the Emirates network."

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/emirates-restart-international-flights-newcastle-21385933

[Jamesair1]

Two bits of good news....Emirates return at 4 weekly and Lufthansa going daily to FRA.

[BAladdy]

Loganair have started to put there summer 2022 flights on sale. The following flights are available to book through to 14th August.

Bergen - Resumes 22nd May 2 x Weekly
Exeter - 6 x Weekly
Newquay - Initially 2 x Weekly, increasing to 3 x Weekly from 30th April and 4 x Weekly from 31st May.
Southampton 12 x Weekly
Stavanger - Resumes 4 x Weekly from 27th March

Direct flights to Jersey are not currently available to book.

[MARKEYD]

Reported on local news here in Jersey that Loganair have cancelled all flights next year into Jersey from the UK , claiming poor loads on all routes

[SKOJB]

Up against LCC so not surprising!

[fl dutchman]

BAladdy

Was there not flights to Oslo due to start sometime?

[Jamesair1]

and Guernsey

[P330]

Anyone know if TUI are planning on bringing any MAX into Newcastle during ‘22.

[HH6702]

Yes it is planned

[oldart]

Do you know if there is a TUI site that gives you the type of a/c for a particular route or c/s?

[HH6702]

not sure if you do a dummy booking it would bring up a seat plan.

from what I’ve heard there’s a few different routes got the max so I’m guessing that we will have 1 based max aircraft for Summer 2022

[P330]

Thanks..

I don’t think you can pick your seat until 90 days before, so not sure a dummy booking would work to test 2022 routes unless someone knows how to do that.....

[GrahamK]

Think NCL is planned to be 4 x 737-800 for S22

[Jamesair1]

I'm sure I read that a 9 a/c fleet at NCL is planned for S22, so any idea what the other 5 would be?

[HH6702]

thats for Jet2 not TUI

[Jamesair1]

Ooops....I should have read further back

[highwideandugly]

Anyone know when BA are increasing the London schedules?..seems to have been stuck on 2 per day for quite a while?

[SWBKCB]

Think it goes to three at the start of the winter schedule.

[fl dutchman]

LHR The schedule is constantly changing. The third flight has been put back repeatedly. Currently its due to re start on 17th Oct I think with the 4th flight due to re start 1st Dec.
All subject to change of course. Dont know when the 5th flight due to resume. ( Edit 28 March )

[HH6702]

Could we be about to see TK launching from NCL ?

[jensdad]

I wouldn't know. Do you know something we don't? It would be a strange move at this moment in time. What are their passenger figures from Edinburgh and Manchester like these days?

[SWBKCB]

From the Turkish Airlines website - cock-up or...

Turkish Airlines flies to five different locations in United Kingdom: Edinburgh (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-edinburgh/), Birmingham (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-birmingham/), London (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-london/) (two different airports), Manchester (https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/flights-to-manchester/) and Newcastle.

London Heathrow Airport (LHR) is regarded as the busiest airport serving in United Kingdom with the number of 76 million passengers per year. The second busiest airport is Gatwick Airport (LGW) which is also in London, serving to 43 million passengers each year. Manchester Airport (MAN) reaches the annual passenger number of 23 million as the third busiest airport countrywide.

Direct flights by Turkish Airlines from Istanbul Airport (IST) take four to four and a half hours in average. The points of destination vary as Birmingham Airport (BHX), London Gatwick Airport (LGW), London Heathrow Airport (LHR), Manchester Airport (MAN) and Newcastle International Airport (NCL).

https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-gb/flights/country/united-kingdom/

[Jamesair1]

I wonder if Easyjet basing more aircraft at PALMA, MALAGA and FARO in 2022 might mean a re-introduction of flights to any of these destinations from NCL next year. .... any rumours been heard?

[LiamNCL]

Seem to be starting ORY-NCL from 04/11/21

VY8146 ORY-NCL 0655-0730 Thu & Sun
VY8147 NCL-ORY 0815-1100 Thu & Sun

[ukchris82]

Wonder how AF will react to a direct competitor to Paris.

Would much prefer to keep AF for connections.

[ash666]

+1
At a guess I would say AF are more reliable and more likely that the NCL-Paris and Paris-anywhere could be ticketed together.
More connections at CDG I would also guess.

[ukchris82]

I agree.
Wonder what the thinking behind veuling is to launch this route?

[CabinCrewe]

If the Vueling numbers /fares are good and they increase frequency, AF I suspect would ditch. How many are using AF to connect over CDG that couldn't go to AMS?
VY have a habit of not sticking with routes for any length of time and often don’t compete well so very early days to worry about AF dropping.

[SWBKCB]

EZY competed with AF on CDG for many years. There's a whole raft of UK flights being launched by VY from ORY at short notice, looks a bit odd with no announcements from airports at the UK end

[fl dutchman]

I believe it may be something to do with slots AF have had to give up.

[Derry321]

Worse than useless for a weekend city break UK-Paris - 0655 from ORY would mean leaving your hotel in Central Paris at 03:30 more or less.
I can't see the French leisure market being too keen on a 06:15 check in either.
New routes are great but genuinely can not see this lasting

[SWBKCB]

The Orly departure board would suggest otherwise.

[GrahamK]

Can't see Vueling causing AF much threat. AF has been strong at NCL for for few years, heck NCL even sees more frequency than EDI, and was due to go double daily mainline + 1 Daily Hop pre covid.

[HH6702]

Shall we be seeing more from Easyjet next week

extra aircraft for Summer 2022 being based at

Faro
Palma
Barcelona
Alicante

all the above routes were busy

[SWBKCB]

Presumably next summer rather than next week! :ok:

Haven't Jet2 and RYR picked up any slack? If they were that profitable (rather than busy), couldn't they have been served in reverse since the base closing like BFS and BRS - and with BFS and BRS weren't these the majority of the NCL based operation?

[GBYAJ]

you might be right but given they shut the base after the first lockdown in hindsight it was probably a wise move given how the last year has panned out. If they did start again in 2022 the travelling public probably won’t have missed them given very few have travelled over the 2 years.

while it was great that EZY were the first low cost carrier at NCL, is EZy the right operator for Ncl on these routes? it was quite poor how ultimately they couldn’t defend their position and were beaten back to an also ran by an operator that started a route to murcia to fill the daytime gap in its 737qc freight schedule…

[ukchris82]

Interesting that AF dosn't list NCL as a destination on their website for UK cities.

Unfortunately I can't post a URL in the post.

[SWBKCB]

AF don't list other Hop destinations like Birmingham

[tigertanaka]

I would not panic just yet, it doesn't show MAN or BHX either.

[Jamesair1]

Jet 2 announced today that it will be offering extra flights to Dalaman, Tenerife, Lanzarote, Gran Canaria and Fuerteventura during October adding 7,000 extra seats from 7 airports (including NCL)

[fl dutchman]

Good to see Emirates back from tomorrow. Also BA - LHR 3rd daily (not Sat) from tomorrow. Things slowly picking up. 38 departures on Friday.

[CabinCrewe]

Will be interesting to see loads and if they're actually getting filled though. Certainly some domestics pretty busy.

[SWBKCB]

This local press article from last week mentions 65% for the first flight

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-airport-dubai-flights-resume-21795322

[10 DME ARC]

We're on EK34 in four weeks time, business class has around 80% seats already taken and EK33 Sunday flight around 70% on way back!

[Jamesair1]

Did Saturday's Premiership match under the new owners bring any interesting aircraft to the airport?

[SWBKCB]

Usual Jota 146 flights and a number of biz jets for Sundays game.

[MATELO]

Just been informed TUI have pulled their flights to Tenerife in a couple of weeks. Now leaving from Manchester with stupid times entailing hotel stops. Is this just a one off or some other more severe reason?

[GAXLN]

May be reflective of a market that is still relatively weak and fact they are up against daily Jet2.com flights in November.

[MATELO]

Confirmed. Not enough seats sold, so they can canx the flight and move it. Its written in Sanskrit in Font 1 on the T&Cs

[fl dutchman]

TUI Tenerife

Strange that these flights are still on sale right now during Oct Nov Dec. Have I missed something.? Where is it confirmed.

[GBYAJ]

i had a quick look and could see flights on Tuesday and Sunday. Friday was always a TFS day so wonder if this has been dropped as only one 737 in the winter and that will go to HRG on a Friday.?

[fl dutchman]

Yes your correct but the Friday TOM to TFS in Nov has not been bookable for months so it has not just been cancelled. Its certainly bookable in Oct and Dec as are the Tue and Sun

[GrahamK]

Looks like Tue/Sun still operating, but no Fri until December

[HH6702]

Summer 2023 May-Oct

now on sale will see what increases are planned

[skyhawk1]

Looks like TFS bookable on weds from Dec.

[HH6702]

was the above a weekly flight this summer ?

next year and for S23 it’s showing as 2x weekly

[Jamesair1]

Jersey 1x weekly ....Summer 21, ....2 x weekly

[ash666]

As my plans to travel with Lufthansa meant an overnight stop, which I won't do, am I right in thinking far more pax use FRA as a transit hub rather than finish their journey there?
Or maybe I am belittling Frankfurt as a city?

I can't understand why they have such a late flight time from NCL. Anyone know the load factors?

[Jamesair1]

AER LINGUS...Summer 2022
According to the Aer Lingus timetable.....the NCL route is planned to re-start on 27th March operating daily, with an 1045 dep on Tues/Wed and Sat. and a 1700 dep on Mon/Thur/Fri and Sun.

[SWBKCB]

Abour 65% during September - upgrade to a EMB-190 with another later in the week. Also some which flight are you saying is too late - LH966 is late morning, LH950 late afternoon?

[ash666]

Thanks.
Aren't they the return flights?
Mind, when I was looking I only saw the late afternoon offered, but even the LH967 at 11.45 wouldn't have helped.

[NorthEasterner]

It seems SP-RZC will be operating KRK-NCL-KRK today. Would this be the first time a B38M / 737 max at NCL?

[Jamesair1]

Have Vueling stopped operating the BARCELONA service? It is not showing in the Vueling timetable nor on the Airport Timetable for Summer 22.

[GrahamK]

Given the poor loads, probably

[beedoubleu]

Yes, first Max at NCL. First Buzz also.

[Jamesair1]

VUELING ....BARCELONA

Shame they restarted it this year instead of 2022 when, maybe it would have had more chance of decent loads. According to the airport, it was the most requested route for a re-start following the Easyjet withdrawal. Maybe a route for Iberia Express with smaller aircraft.

[fl dutchman]

So we now have Jet 2 twice weekly and Ryanair (BUZZ) 3 times weekly flying to KRK.
Wonder how long that lasts !

[Jamesair1]

AER LINGUS....operated by EMERALD AIRLINES...... DUBLIN - NEWCASTLE.....DAILY w/e/f 27/03/22 Now confirmed.

[BAladdy]

Can I ask where you got info from?. As not available on EI website

[Jamesair1]

The timetable is on the Aer Lingus website and check out the Emerald Airlines thread on here.
It looks like the Emerald thread has been deleted...it listed all routes and frequencies....another airline route site has also deleted the info.

[HH6702]

fl dutchman

hopefully they will cover different markets and both can last.

jet2 city break holidays
ryanair flight only visiting family

fingers crossed

[Jamesair1]

Just read an article in the Southampton thread where the Air Service Development Head at Istanbul airport singles out Bristol, Leeds/Bradford, NEWCASTLE and Southampton as UK airports on his development list for new connections.

[jensdad]

Interesting, but their inclusion of SOU tells me that said head hasn't done a great deal of research. Their runway can't take a fully loaded 737 and they don't even have a connection to AMS these days. Would like to see it happen, having said that.

[Jamesair1]

Exactly my thoughts, but still good to be on their list.

[Beatts]

https://netimesmagazine.co.uk/magazine/editorial/taking-off-again/

[VentureGo]

Aer LIngus timetable showing Newcastle - Dublin Flights (EI3350/3351) from 27th March until 13th October (Summer Timetable)

example search: https://www.aerlingus.com/html/fligh...s=0&promoCode= (https://www.aerlingus.com/html/flights-time-table.html#/sourceAirportCode_0=NCL&destinationAirportCode_0=DUB&departureDate_0=2022-03-27&sourceAirportCode_1=DUB&destinationAirportCode_1=NCL&departureDate_1=2022-03-27&fareType=RETURN&fareCategory=ECONOMY&numAdults=1&numYoungAdults=0&numChildren=0&numInfants=0&promoCode=)

[Jamesair1]

Still not bookable though, hopefully, should be soon also appeared on a hastily deleted thread a couple of weeks ago.


Aegean Airlines seem to be taking out a Thessaloniki flight tomorrow at 1100...flt.no..A34051

[GrahamK]

basketball team

[skyhawk1]

What’s up with EK tonight?

[jensdad]

Don't know for certain but I'm guessing the weather. The runway's 07/25 and Storm Arwen is doing her stuff at about 16/34 :)

[SWBKCB]

Sounds about right :rolleyes: Trying again this evening. Winds forecast to be half what they were last night but still right across the runway.

[Jamesair1]

I've noticed that Loganair flights LM834/5 seem to be appearing on the Arr/Dep. boards operating to and from Norwich.....It also appears as a timetable (without availability) on the LM website. Is this going to be a new route?. I remember a few years ago it was a route nominated for subsidy as a PSO and granted an operator....who was unable to take it up.

[SWBKCB]

Aren't those positioning/charter flt nos - and Norwich are at St James tomorrow night

[GrahamK]

Good to see KLM back up to 4 x daily from today

[HH6702]

Summer 2022

[VickersVicount]

Summer 2022
A bit of a surprise they weren't already operating PMI :bored:

[Jamesair1]

Good news.....a lot of capacity was lost with the EZY base closure and the demise of Thomas Cook.

[Jamesair1]

JET 2
extra flights added for Summer 22
KEFALONIA Tuesdays...26/7 till 30/8
ZANTE..........Weds..........27/7 till 31/8
CORFU..........Mondays....25/7 till 29/8

[JKKne]

Good news.....a lot of capacity was lost with the EZY base closure and the demise of Thomas Cook.

Just had a look at the timetable as we've a few family out in Soller.

Return flight is dreadful - leaving Palma at 7am - eye wateringly early for me!

[GAXLN]

Just had a look at the timetable as we've a few family out in Soller.

Return flight is dreadful - leaving Palma at 7am - eye wateringly early for me!

I agree but it is marginally later than the Ryanair flight out of Palma which operates Monday to Saturday next year. Time varies on Ryanair but always before 7am and on a Friday as early as 610am. Oh well there’s always Jet2.com.

[inOban]

You'll just have to pull an all-nighter as I believe the youngsters call it!

[Jamesair1]

There seems to be a bit of confusion about the frequency of the EZY new Palma route. All the official announcements I have read say 5 weekly flights yet when you look up the flights on the EZY website it only shows 4 with no Tuesday flight showing.

[SWBKCB]

There seems to be a bit of confusion about the frequency of the EZY new Palma route. All the official announcements I have read say 5 weekly flights yet when you look up the flights on the EZY website it only shows 4 with no Tuesday flight showing.

The airport website says "up to five times a week" - when are you looking?

[Jamesair1]

Easyjet timetable...May to October ...never shows more than 4 weekly flights...operating Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat. throughout the season.

[Jamesair1]

RYANAIR

A few changes to the Summer 22 schedules.
DUBLIN .... increased to 2 x daily every day
GDANSK....increased from 2 x weekly to 3 x weekly
PALMA......reduced from daily to 6 x weekly

A net increase of 2 departures a week

[SWBKCB]

Loganair operating Bergen twice weekly during the summer - Tues/Sat

[fl dutchman]

TUI. See TUI are using the 737 Max aircraft currently based at NCL.

[Jamesair1]

Now that the more, economical to operate, A321LR is entering US airline fleets ......might that make a NCL - NY route a more viable option than previously Pax nos always seemed to be reasonable (inc. Business)....obviously no idea about yields achieved.

[HH6702]

Now that the more, economical to operate, A321LR is entering US airline fleets ......might that make a NCL - NY route a more viable option than previously Pax nos always seemed to be reasonable (inc. Business)....obviously no idea about yields achieved.

hope so but can’t see this happening for another couple of years from 2024/5 maybe

[Jamesair1]

Does anyone know if there have been any interesting slot applications made for Summer 22 at NCL?

[P330]

Does anyone know if there have been any interesting slot applications made for Summer 22 at NCL?

Not answering your question, but does the fact you’re asking it mean you’re expecting something?

[irishlad06]

Does anyone know if there have been any interesting slot applications made for Summer 22 at NCL?

not slot application but Jet2.com have 9 based aircraft this year for peak. Biggest yet.

[ash666]

Am I right someone is doing a Dubrovnik flight in the summer

[GrahamK]

Am I right someone is doing a Dubrovnik flight in the summer
Jet2 and Tui

[ash666]

Thanks. Jet2 for me but it's all in the timings.

[Jamesair1]

Sorry P330....I often read on other threads that such and such has applied for slots to XYZ and wondered if anyone on the NCL thread had similar access to this information.

[GrahamK]

Reckon Emirates will be wanting the loads to pick up out of NCL quickly. The new departure time not proving popular in October and November.

[fl dutchman]

The connections on this new Emirates departure time in many cases are terrible. If the loads are poor that must be a factor. Please bring back the original times.

[SWBKCB]

A third of the 2019 Nov figures on four flights a week, in a pandemic and with major destinations like Aus and NZ closed? Doubt they're panicing just yet.

[10 DME ARC]

We did NCL-DXB-NCL in November and Business Class was full both ways, think on the way back there was a couple of upgrades as Economy was full!! For staying in DXB timings were great, I've did too many sub 4am starts for EK35!! ;-)

[fl dutchman]

B A increasing frequency on NCL-LHR back to up to 6 flights per day from April 22.

[GAXLN]

B A increasing frequency on NCL-LHR back to up to 6 flights per day from April 22.

Looks to be a slot sitting timetable with up to seven flights departing NCL on a Tuesday and Thursday and with three flights departing for LHR within 75 minutes of each other on a Tuesday and Thursday afternoon. It may still change as other opportunities come and go for BA across their network.

[GrahamK]

Lufthansa stopped until mid Feb now.

[GrahamK]

Some recent changes for the AF CDG service this summer. It'll operate 2 x daily using mostly A319s with some A318s and A320s thrown in.

[CabinCrewe]

Some recent changes for the AF CDG service this summer. It'll operate 2 x daily using mostly A319s with some A318s and A320s thrown in.
I doubt those subtypes will bear any resemblance to actual operation !

[HH6702]

Vueling keeps Paris for summer 2022

[LiamNCL]

SAUDIA 789 HZ-ARG due JED-NCL this afternoon ETA15:40

[GrahamK]

Emirates increasing to 5 x weekly from.the start of July, operating Mon,Wed,Fri,Sat,Sun

[chris1001]

Positive news for Emirates.

Malaga looks pretty desperate this summer with Ryanair dropping to only two flights a week and the awful early morning departure on the return leg.

Jet 2 already capitalising with £880 return for May bank holiday. Was hoping Easyjet would return from their Malaga base or maybe Vueling/Wizz.

[CabinCrewe]

slightly surprised EK wasn't back to daily already

[ukchris82]

Air france have cancelled my flight home in 2 weeks. They seem stuck on 4 flights a week. If Emirates can recover with a 777 and klm are up to 3 flights a day why has air fiancé's recovery been so poor?

[Rutan16]

French COVID entry rules I expect have damped forward demand .

[GrahamK]

AF had been back up to 12 flights a week. KLM also seem to have reduced down from 4 daily flights

[N707ZS]

It doesn't seem like many months ago since the airport was crowing about A330 freighters being based at Newcastle, what has happened with these. Are these the ones at Birmingham.

[SWBKCB]

It doesn't seem like many months ago since the airport was crowing about A330 freighters being based at Newcastle.

There was a statement from the airport in ZFG's press release, so not sure crowing is the appropriate term? I would imagine they were as sceptical as the rest of us, but in the middle of 2021 any new business would have looked good.

Some of the 330's operating to BHX are leased from the same company as the one that turned up at NCL, but I doubt there is anymore of a connection.

[N707ZS]

Thanks, down as not going to happen then.

[Jamesair1]

The Vueling operation to Paris (Orly) is adopting much better timing for its MON & FRI summer service, moving from early morning to early afternoon slots.

[BAladdy]

Loganair have today released there W22/23 schedule. Than plan to operate:

Exeter - Up to 5 x Weekly
Newquay - Will operate on 22NOV, 29NOV, 22DEC, 27DEC, 29DEC, 03JAN and 05JAN
Stavanger - Up to 4 x Weekly
Southampton - Up to 13 x Weekly

[HH6702]

Loganair have today released there W22/23 schedule. Than plan to operate:

Exeter - Up to 5 x Weekly
Newquay - Will operate on 22NOV, 29NOV, 22DEC, 27DEC, 29DEC, 03JAN and 05JAN
Stavanger - Up to 4 x Weekly
Southampton - Up to 13 x Weekly


good news this

[Jamesair1]

JET 2 have announced extra flights to ALICANTE, MALAGA and FARO in March and April from NCL

[GAXLN]

I see G-EILA has just landed from Bridgetown!

[Jamesair1]

BHD - NCL is being shown as a new Flybe route. Time will tell
.

[Jamesair1]

A post on the PRESTWICK thread says that the French Rugby charter flights today are parking up at NCL

[SWBKCB]

There are two Air Malta flights planned to come down for EDI until after the game. Not a lot, but given the recent BA and TUI parking is somebody doing something different compared to previous years?

[SWBKCB]

Jan 2022 stats are now out - I make it 99k although the BRS figures haven't been posted, normally about 8k? Interesting that the Spanish destinations have held up well between Dec and Jan. By contrast Jan 2020 was 266k - comparison between last months top destinations (excluding BRS) below

HEATHROW 17,274 (2022) 33,310 (2020) 0.52%

AMSTERDAM 12,751 30,075 0.42

BELFAST 11,858 19,715 0.60

TENERIFE 11,522 17,726 0.65

ALICANTE 6,309 17,888 0.35

DUBAI 6,162 21,017 0.29

ARRECIFE 6,067 8,937 0.68

[Wallsendmag]

Jan 2022 stats are now out - I make it 99k although the BRS figures haven't been posted, normally about 8k? Interesting that the Spanish destinations have held up well between Dec and Jan. By contrast Jan 2020 was 266k - comparison between last months top destinations (excluding BRS) below

HEATHROW 17,274 (2022) 33,310 (2020) 0.52%

AMSTERDAM 12,751 30,075 0.42

BELFAST 11,858 19,715 0.60

TENERIFE 11,522 17,726 0.65

ALICANTE 6,309 17,888 0.35

DUBAI 6,162 21,017 0.29

ARRECIFE 6,067 8,937 0.68
I think your percentages are out by a factor of 100

[SWBKCB]

I think your percentages are out by a factor of 100

Yep - hard sums was never my strong point, but you get the picture! :ok:

[CabinCrewe]

still pretty dire. Surprised at LHR figure. There would probably need to be a fairly quick upturn in DXB too.

[SWBKCB]

still pretty dire. Surprised at LHR figure. There would probably need to be a fairly quick upturn in DXB too.

About 45% of pre-covid figures, but I think all operators are back up and running. DXB needs Australia and New Zealand back.

Be interesting to see how that compares with other regionals.

[GrahamK]

Looks like Swift Air have taken over from ASL on the FedEx feeder

[Saabandthecity]

Looks like Swift Air have taken over from ASL on the FedEx feeder

Aircraft soon to be upgraded to a B734

[SWBKCB]

Aircraft soon to be upgraded to a B734

Don't tell me, "next month" - been hearing that for a while now! :ok:

[Saabandthecity]

Don't tell me, "next month" - been hearing that for a while now! :ok:

Jobs advertised as they going self handling, surprised that TUPe isn't being implemented. Although that will happen once jet2 go self handling in the next year or 2.

[nclops]

Jobs advertised as they going self handling, surprised that TUPe isn't being implemented. Although that will happen once jet2 go self handling in the next year or 2.
The jobs advertised are just for in the warehouse, they are not going self handling. The switch to a 734 is happening at the end of this month.

[Saabandthecity]

The jobs advertised are just for in the warehouse, they are not going self handling. The switch to a 734 is happening at the end of this month.

I work at the airport and they are going self handling as they were advertising for Ramp agents specifically to load and unload the aircraft. With the 734 day stopping at NCL instead of at GLA.

[SWBKCB]

So how does that work, for one flight a day? :confused:

[N707ZS]

Could this be the start of Amazon freight.

[Jamesair1]

There must be a reason why they have switched it from Glasgow......maybe the quanties involved warrant a seperate Glasgow - Paris operation or, as you suggest, they have further plans for the a/c.
Either way the 737 represents a major increase in freight volume capacity available.

[nclops]

I work at the airport and they are going self handling as they were advertising for Ramp agents specifically to load and unload the aircraft. With the 734 day stopping at NCL instead of at GLA.
I also work at the airport and yes one of the roles Fedex advertised for mentioned using ramp equipment around aircraft however as I mentioned earlier the jobs are all mainly warehouse based. They will continue to have a representative present at the turnaround (Loadmaster) as is currently the case with the ATR but the are not going self handling any time soon!

[GBYAJ]

EasyJet from Belfast today - was fr24 correct and although it flew over newcastle diverted before landing to Edinburgh and then returned a few hours later? If so anyone know what was up? Weather couldn’t have better today at ncl.

[CCFAIRPORT]

On easyjet app its written : runway closure at NCL airport

[GBYAJ]

On easyjet app its written : runway closure at NCL airport

ta. Mustn’t have been closed for long as I was walking past the airport not long after and everything else seemed to be arriving and departing ok.

[nclops]

There was a light aircraft stuck on the runway for a short time!

[Jamesair1]

FLYBE have announced that its new routes go on sale next week...........is NCL included?????

[Jamesair1]

BHD - NCL.....DAILY wef 25th AUG 2022

[HH6702]

BHD - NCL.....DAILY wef 25th AUG 2022

excellent news

[Jamesair1]

A significant milestone for the airport with the Ryanair base operational next week.

[N707ZS]

How many aircraft are they basing.

[SWBKCB]

Ryanair, Europe’s No.1 airline, today (05 August) announced a new base opening in Newcastle for Summer ’22, with two based aircraft, 63 departing flights per week and 19 routes in total, including 12 new connections to a host of international destinations across Europe from March ‘22.

https://www.newcastleairport.com/news-and-reporting/latest-news/ryanair-announces-newcastle-base-and-launches-s22-schedule/

[nighthawk117]

Old news.. that article is dated 05 Aug 2021

[SWBKCB]

Old news.. that article is dated 05 Aug 2021

Yes - but still answers the question that was asked, I'm not aware that the number of RYR a/c/ to be based has changed.

[HH6702]

Yes - but still answers the question that was asked, I'm not aware that the number of RYR a/c/ to be based has changed.


still requires 2 based aircraft

[GrahamK]

Good to see Air France mainline return to the Toon today. And a big increase in flights overall for the summer season.

[N707ZS]

I see the daily cargo flight comes via Edinburgh is this the new normal.

[GrahamK]

I see the daily cargo flight comes via Edinburgh is this the new normal.
Yes, now day stops at NCL.

[Jamesair1]

Is it now operated by the expected 737?

[GrahamK]

Is it now operated by the expected 737?
Last nights outward was flown by an ASL 737-400F, todays arrival from CDG via EDI, was a FedEx 737-800F

[Jamesair1]

Thank you....I notice that last nights Ryanair Dublin diverted to Liverpool.

[mmeteesside]

Last nights outward was flown by an ASL 737-400F, todays arrival from CDG via EDI, was a FedEx 737-800F
Yep now operated by ASL again on behalf of Fedex

[skyhawk1]

Why Emirates cancelled tonight

[SWBKCB]

Why Emirates cancelled tonight

Crew illness I believe

[HH6702]

Information off a good lad on twitter


Corendon Airlines' Winter 2022/23 UK schedule (so far):

Antalya - Birmingham - 1-2x weekly flights

Antalya - Glasgow - 1x weekly flight

Antalya - London Gatwick - 1-3x weekly flights

Antalya - Manchester - 1-2x weekly flights

Antalya - Newcastle - 1x weekly flight

[Travel Agent]

Information off a good lad on twitter


Corendon Airlines' Winter 2022/23 UK schedule (so far):

Antalya - Newcastle - 1x weekly flightNovember to 19th March as follows:

Sunday NCL-AYT XC7118 1320/2040

Sunday AYT-NCL XC7117 1030/1220

[fl dutchman]

BA Lounge at NCL.
Just wondering if this is going to re open following the resumption of many LHR flights.
Walked past yesterday and the windows were blacked out and all signage removed.

[VickersVicount]

The BA branded lounge is not coming back. Nada, Gone, Dead, Kaput.

[NorthEasterner]

BA Lounge at NCL.
Just wondering if this is going to re open following the resumption of many LHR flights.
Walked past yesterday and the windows were blacked out and all signage removed.

It has been closed for the foreseeable future / permanently. BA Lounge users I believe have access to Aspire.

[tigertanaka]

It has been closed for the foreseeable future / permanently. BA Lounge users I believe have access to Aspire.
Indeed, I was in just before noon today and it was dead. Not a patch on the old BA lounge.

I wonder what they will do with the space? It’s not exactly prime real estate within the terminal.

[Jamesair1]

I wonder if VUELING have any more plans for NCL?

[Jamesair1]

JET 2 adding additional capacity with a series of one-off additional flights to LANZAROTE ... Fri 29th April. TENERIFE....Sat 30th May. ANTALYA......Thurs 28th April.......PALMA .....Wed 27th April.
Apr