Challenge

[SincoTC]

Thanks LM,

Up and away!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge003.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

I'll shoot American....possibly Rocketdyne

Edit: nah,

Rolls Royce RZ2 Rocket Engine

[SincoTC]

That's right mate, the Rolls-Royce RZ-2, one of a pair (collectively known as RZ-12) that powered the Blue Streak ICBM and later the (every time successful) first stage of the European ELDO Europa space launch vehicle. Not many rocket engines achieve a 100% success rate, pity it was let down by short sighted politicians as usual :ugh:

The engine shown was recovered from the Simpson Desert after a test flight from Woomera

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Can't monitor for too much longer - early start tomorrow.

However, wanna nuther wun?

pity it was let down by short sighte politicians as usual :ugh:


What's new?

................TSR2...................

[SincoTC]

Well mate, I'm stopping for my evening meal now, but will continue to monitor SC JIC, but I'm for an early start too and won't have too much time for looking now, but I see kitbag's light is on :)

[Lightning Mate]

OK mate - enjoy your meal.

Another coming up shortly..............

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/latejob.jpg

[Kitbag]

Thank you for the faith, guess this is the one?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/TSR-2_%28engines%29.jpg/800px-TSR-2_%28engines%29.jpg

Open house if I'm right

[SincoTC]

Just handed over SC control and came back to have a quick look, and to say that it seems LM is continuing the theme of projects blighted by politicians!!

However. I see that Kitbag has got there first, well done mate :D, but you should give it a name though as this hasn't got a title ;)!!

[Kitbag]

For completeness BAC TSR 2.

Is anybody else having trouble with photobucket? I've got a couple of images that may be fun to post.

Still got to be OH

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning India Four Two.

A little premature in posting a challenge before I have declared the winner!

[India Four Two]

LM, Sorry about that :uhoh:

I didn't notice that you posted the challenge. I was mislead by Kitbag's post!

I have deleted my post.

[Lightning Mate]

No problem.

Kitbag is indeed the winner and has declared OH, so please throw yours up again.

[India Four Two]

LM, Thanks. You can go weapons tight now. ;)

I see front ends are posted occasionally, so here's one that is a bit the worse for wear.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/IMG_0725-1.jpg

[sabredog]

Boeing B-52 wreckage,Hanoi Military Museum. Pratt & Whitney J57?

[India Four Two]

Hi sd,

Yes, yes, presumably. The notice in front of the display says B-52D Bomber Engine. Shot down 12 Dec 72 by a missile, presumably an SA-2 Guideline.

Over to you.

[sabredog]

Thank you, India Four Two.
Apologies,will have to withdraw my previous challenge!
Open House

[SincoTC]

As it's still an OH, let's kick things off again!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge004B.jpg

[Kitbag]

Guessing that the odd colouring on the flat surface is due to heat, so perhaps a rocket engine on some mixed power type. Thing is, there were a lot of those in the 50/60's. Douglas Skyrocket?

[SincoTC]

Morning Kitbag,

Mixed powerplants Yes, Skyrocket No!

[Lightning Mate]

Do I see a rocket booster?

Can't see much of an aeroplane, so maybe a missile judging from the angle.

[SincoTC]

Morning David :),

You do see a rocket and it does boost the performance, but it's not a booster in the sense that it's part of the airframe and not jettisoned after use!

Don't be miss-led by the angle, it's on display poised in flight attitude!

Not a missile!

[Lightning Mate]

Blimey! That's some flight attitude.

Could be a Los Alamos heat pipe exchanger system.

[SincoTC]

Actually, looked at from the side, it's only about 30-40 deg nose up, nuffink for a Lightning mate :ok:, but then, I know you don't rate this one much anyway ;) !

[Lightning Mate]

Ah so Glasshopper.

You mean climb angle......


I know you don't rate this one much anyway

Wish I could remember what I have said somewhere in the past, but that points to a Yank.

[Lightning Mate]

Ah again....hydrogen peroxide and JP4.

Flown the non-rocket version mate.

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/NJF104A.jpg

[SincoTC]

Yes that's what I meant, I didn't mention "climb" though 'coz this one's not gotta chance in hell of doing that with its sodding great concrete plinth!!

Your past comments weren't directed at this variant, but to the standard type, but 'tiz a Yank!

Edit: I see the penny's dropped! That's the one mate :D

The Lockheed NF-104 (Trainer for reaction controls)

Flown the non-rocket version mate.

Yup, and didn't think too much of it I recall, turning ability I should think!!

Lightning Mate has control :ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Nice one mate!

Please standby......

[Lightning Mate]

GO..........

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/go-1.jpg

[skytrain10]

Looks like a Thiokol rocket engine?

[Lightning Mate]

Not a Thoikol mate.

Back to infuriating parasols....

[SincoTC]

Time for a quick lunchtime look!

Straight taper nozzle rather than the more efficient and later so-called bell type? lots of studs for a skirt extension for upper stage use? A plain double skin chamber rather than a basket of tubes, so it looks early.

HTP/Kerosine? part of Bristol Siddeley Double Gamma ??

[Lightning Mate]

Only one stage.

Pretty quick aeroplane, but you wouldn't get me into one! Not British.

Liquid propellant.

That parasol's a bugger innit!

[Lightning Mate]

Clue for a clue........?

[SincoTC]

Reaction Motors XLR-99 ?? Open House please if correct as I'm gonna be busy this afternoon and out tonight!

As it's now listed by by wiki as a Thiokol, maybe ken should have a crack :)!

Edit:

Clue for a clue........?

:p I've already given the engine type, year and country!!

[Lightning Mate]

It wasn't originally by Thoikol, but now that I've checked what you said I'll agree and give it to Ken.

However, I was after the aeroplane.

Ken has control.


I've already given the engine type, year and country!!

Where??? :confused:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mate, it was the X-15, but haven't we had that already, that's why I didn't look at it before?

Edit: Maybe we haven't, just getting old and confused it seems :(

Edit2:

Where??? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gif

Read my replies mate, to you after comment about my SC (engine), to all (year), to Ken confirming year clue (Country) Sorry, but they're a bit Reg'ish in his honour :)!

[Lightning Mate]

Dunno.!!

We need Mel on this thread too!

Perhaps one of us should start compiling a new list.


just getting old and confused it seems

Join the club.

[Lightning Mate]

You had better get back to SC mate.

[SincoTC]

That's a relief, maybe not so decrepid after all, X-15 by Graeme #422 :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Dunno.!!

We need Mel on this thread too!

Perhaps one of us should start compiling a new list.

Quote:
just getting old and confused it seems
Join the club.

It is already in hand and will be added to the sticky at the end of the month. Tonight is the opening night for my Theatre Groups production of "Tiptoe through the tombstones" a comedy thriller by Norman Robbins which I foolishly volunteered to produce and direct. Due to one of the cast dropping out has now meant I will also be on stage.

[Lightning Mate]

On stage eh. :ok:

Thank you for starting the engines list.

[Lightning Mate]

Just to confirm,

skytrain has control.

[skytrain10]

Ah....sorry LM had no real cause to look. Not sure the guess of a manufacturer's name is enough to win but I won't argue. I have nothing prepared and will be offline again soon so OH.

[Noyade]

Maybe we should start another thread - INTAKES...... I'm hoping we can incorporate intakes, engine 'guts' and the exhaust with this thread? What do others think?

In the meantime...

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/384/img129ja.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/i/img129ja.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

I'm hoping we can incorporate intakes, engine 'guts' and the exhaust with this thread? What do others think?

Why not........

[Noyade]

Excellent, lets do it then! :ok:

With some skin...

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1708/img132c.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/img132c.jpg/)

[sycamore]

Macchi 326/Impala..? OH if correct..

[Noyade]

Macchi 326

Done! Nice work sycamore, who's declared OPEN HOUSE.

:ok:

[Lightning Mate]

Graeme,

PM shortly.

[spook]

As sycamore has declared OH - try this one

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/spook228/IMGP1559resize.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Are we looking at an aeroplane......?

[spook]

LM - looking at an engine that's hung on an aeroplane!

[Lightning Mate]

Under it..?

[Ridge Runner]

A bizJet, mate???

[Lightning Mate]

Looking at that cone, is it by any chance a ramjet?

[Lightning Mate]

Location: 40° 27'51.12"N 3°32'04.45"W

That puts you on the SE service ramp at Barajas airport. :)

[Ridge Runner]

wild guess.... JT8, Spook?

[skytrain10]

IAI Galaxy?

[spook]

Sorry all - got sidetracked! RR It is a bizjet. Skytrain - not a Galaxy but right engine manufacturer.I took the photo in the UK yesterday - Yes, I know I need to update my location!

[Kitbag]

Bombardier Learjet Model 60?

[SincoTC]

Hi spook

Seeing as you said it was hung underneath a bizjet, could it be a Pratt and Whitney Canada PW306B on a Fairchild Dornier 328JET ??

[spook]

Kitbag has it:ok:

[Noyade]

Hi spook!

Standing on a ladder or are you a tall guy? :)

[spook]

Hi Noyade - Actually I couldn't see what I was taking as I had to reach up - but not much! They're not very big these Lear's :)

http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo311/spook228/IMGP1568resize.jpg

[skytrain10]

Hi spook....looks like Farnborough?

[SincoTC]

I just re-read the clues spook gave and I realise that he didn't say it hung under (that was LM's question) but on a bizjet, my confusion DOH!!

[spook]

SincoTC - Even I was confused and had to double check! Skytrain - Yes Farnboro'! Anyway I guess we're awaiting Kitbag's next challenge.

[Kitbag]

Apols, just checked in. OH unless I find something first.

[Lightning Mate]

Did I hear OH?....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/jetpipe.jpg

[skytrain10]

Wing mounted? A turboprop exhaust maybe?

[Lightning Mate]

Neither mate. :\

[skytrain10]

Ok, so a rear mounted integral jet then?

[Lightning Mate]

Rear-mounted pure turbojet - 1955....:)

[Lightning Mate]

I have just booked another long weekend in the Lake District, so will not be around next weekend for four days.

Have booked a very expensive country house hotel by Coniston Water. ;)

Going for an all day boat trip including lunch with wine.

[safetypee]

Then perhaps your weekend thoughts of a pure turbojet would include 'blue' boats and Coniston Water?

[Lightning Mate]

Maybe.................

[safetypee]

…… and bits of a Gnat (?) stuck on the back of a pseudo high speed catamaran?
And your lunch would include a ‘Scottish’ named soup. OH!

[Lightning Mate]

Well....what is it?

[sycamore]

It would have to be Donald Campbells `Bluebird`....,SP should have control....

[Lightning Mate]

SP should have control....

He should indeed, but he has declared Open House.

[jindabyne]

Have booked a very expensive country house hotel by Coniston Water

There isn't one! See you in the Black Bull :D

[SincoTC]

Well at least this one was intended to fly! Sorry, I'll get me coat.....

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge005.jpg

[safetypee]

Something vertical, with more than one of these engines?

Re the small disc-sectors on the external ring at base of the exhaust, are these thrust trimmers?

[SincoTC]

Morning safetypee, good call on LM's Bluebird :)!

Something vertical, with more than one of these engines

Correct on both counts, but I have no idea of the function of those semi-circular shaped parts, initial thoughts were brackets for a nozzle extension but if so, why would they be oddly spaced, they also seem to vary from engine to engine! They're rather small, but maybe they have some influence on the flow/noise, possibly at max thrust, pehaps someone can enlighten us?

BTW, I'm after the engine type and aircraft.

[Lightning Mate]

Morning.


pehaps someone can enlighten us?

I think safetypee is correct. They appear to be exhaust gas temperature trimmers, but there are rather a lot of them.


Something vertical

Still trying to work out what that means......Helo?

[JEM60]

Something vertical,like a Shorts S.C.1 or Flying Bedstead, perhaps.?

[SincoTC]

Good morning gentlemen (and evening Graeme if you're lurking) :)

At work now, but will monitor as often as possible.

Not a Helo LM, JEM60 is on the right track but it's not one of those two.

[Lightning Mate]

Off we go then.

Bell Model 65 Air Test Vehicle?

[SincoTC]

Sorry David, not the Bell 65 ATV

[Lightning Mate]

Another shot....German/Russian.

[SincoTC]

That narrows it down a lot mate, it is one of those two :E!!

[Noyade]

Morning.

Thought VAK 191...but now Dornier Do 31?

[Lightning Mate]

Evening Graeme.


"two vertically mounted engines"

A Yak 36?

Maybe the engines are RKBM Rybinsk RRD-41 liftjets.

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

Yes mate, it is one of the six RR RB-162 lift engines in the Dornier DO-31 :D

Noyade has Control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor. Concentrated on the VAK 191 and found a photo of it in a museum...and next to it was the Dornier. :)

OPEN HOUSE.

[Lightning Mate]

I always loved reheat.....hooligan kit.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/burnergo.jpg

[safetypee]

Reheat – a very British term. Always required for Thrust, and often to get supersonic, but not necessarily to get airborne.
Or just a lost Phantom of my memory?

[Lightning Mate]

I just love the way you answer things. :)

Imagine a Lightning with two Avons in burner, and you're only 21 years old.

The thread is all yours. :ok:

[safetypee]

For the those lacking imagination - the 'Thrust SSC' supersonic car which used two RR Spey engines:
Thrust SSC | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/29663856@N03/5680385317/)

Even with a vivid imagination, my record was only 195kts during takeoff with O/W jugs at a 6000ft alt airfield in Iran!
You could ponder the ground speed at the time as well as what the squadron was doing in that part of the world.

Open House – currently on ‘Atlantic’ time.

[Noyade]

Time for an intake?...

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1451/img149s.jpg (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/img149s.jpg/)

[sycamore]

CASA Aviojet.. OH if correct

[Noyade]

Tis it. :ok:

Open House.

[skytrain10]

As its Open House:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/541fd029.jpg

[Ridge Runner]

Hansa 320, Ken?

[skytrain10]

Hansa 320, Ken? Not a Hansa mate...aim bigger!

[Ridge Runner]

Gulfstream 2

[skytrain10]

Gulfstream 2 Too small...bigger! You are in the right country though.

[Ridge Runner]

C-119, mate????

[Flap40]

How about MD-90?

[safetypee]

B 717. The engine pylons have a ‘control’ tab/surface on them.
Engine pod with a strake.

[skytrain10]

Evening. Well it goes to Flap40. It was a MD90-30 whose V2525 pods also have a strake. Well done:ok:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/5a0f69ce.jpg

Flap40 has control

Edit to say Flap40 has declared Open House

[Flap40]

Thanks. Open house for this one. I'll find something for next time.

[SincoTC]

Here's one to kick off the day (or to close it Graeme :))!!

A lot of people have seen this variant although it never actually flew.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge006.jpg

[Noyade]

Morning.

I'm thinking of a race track on the set of Top Gear where I keep seeing this?

Shaken, not stirred...

Boeing 747-236B 'Skyfleet S570' (http://impdb.org/index.php?title=Category:Boeing_747)

Casino Royale - The Internet Movie Plane Database (http://impdb.org/index.php?title=Casino_Royale)

[SincoTC]

Good evening mate :),

I knew if you were to look in it'd be a steal, seems it's a take-away too!!

It is the modified Boeing 747-236B (Stage Name) 'Skyfleet S570'

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/CasinoRoyale747.jpg

Noyade has control and enjoy your Indian :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor. Open House mate. :)

[MReyn24050]

A list of challenges up to and including 31 Oct 2011 added to sticky above.
Mel

[SincoTC]

It's been OH too long, and seeing as I'll be monitoring SC later I'll put another one up! Should be pretty easy.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge007.jpg

[sycamore]

Avro Arrow....

[SincoTC]

Not the Arrow sycamore!

I'm off now, back soon!

[Kitbag]

Pair of J-79s in an NA A or RA 5 Vigilante

[SincoTC]

You got it KB, with a nasty little dual rear firing launcher in between them :E!!

It is a pair of J-79s in a North Amaercan A-5 Vigilante

Kitbag has control :ok:

[Kitbag]

Sorry, nothing to post here so OH

[SincoTC]

Thanks KB; well at least my little "three thread thrash" managed to get them moving again after a bit of a lull. :)

As Kitbag requested it's Open House, stand by for the rush ;)

[Kitbag]

Try this:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Challenge4Nov.jpg

[SincoTC]

Would that be a Shvetsov M-63 in a Polikarpov I-16 ??

[Kitbag]

Yep, the exhausts are pretty distinctive.

Your thread

[SincoTC]

Thanks KB,

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge008.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Trevor. Russian?

[Noyade]

Bereznyak-Isayev B1?

[SincoTC]

Afternoon Graeme,

Yes mate. it is Russian!

[Noyade]

Yes mate. it is Russian! Thanks mate. But not the rocket B1?

Must be bloody early over there mate? Working today?

I'm heading off to the cinema (don't want to, but it's family thing - gonna watch "Contagion" :rolleyes:) shortly - will be back later tonight. Cheers.

[SincoTC]

Yus, another early start!

But not the rocket B1

Sorry for the delay mate, I was having a shave and trying to check if it was right or not as they look very similar and f :mad:g IExplorer "hung-up and I had to restart :ugh:! That It isn't it according to my source, but I'm not so sure there isn't a connection!! Got another name for it?

Edit: Ah time to check more fully!! Catchya later, enjoy the film :ok:

[SincoTC]

Managed to do a little checking on this, they are different, but the designer of mine was involved in yours, so that may explain certain features!

[Noyade]

Rubbish film mate.

Florov 4302 No.2..?

[SincoTC]

Thought it might be from the trails I've seen on the box!!

Florav 4302 No.2

That'll do me mate (despite the typo :p)

It is the Florov 4302 (and pretty sure it's the No.2 airframe)

Noyade has control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.

Another one...

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/504/smallvl.png (http://img847.imageshack.us/i/smallvl.png/)

[Kitbag]

F 94 Starfire?

[Noyade]

Not the Starfire. Not American. Very unique looking aircraft.

[Noyade]

A bigger piece of the puzzle...

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9910/biggerpieceofpie.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/biggerpieceofpie.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Trying to make me burn my supper eh Graeme!!

Is that the SNECMA Coleopter ??

[Noyade]

Use the microwave mate! :)

Done deal. Remember to chew slowly, your control. :ok:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5430/20104wnhq8.png (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/20104wnhq8.png/)

[SincoTC]

Thanks mate,

Here's the next!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge008-1.jpg

[Noyade]

Appears to be behind a steel frame?

A weld at bottom right? In a test-rig?

[SincoTC]

Not in a test rig, but actually mounted in an airframe!

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.
I'm off to enjoy my Sunday, sleep well. Cheers. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Graeme:)

I'm off to enjoy my Sunday, sleep well

Thanks mate.

Hope you've had a good day!

Awake as usual, so a little clue for any early risers; this challenger led with it's chin and got knocked out!!!

[sycamore]

Boeing X-32B..?

[SincoTC]

It is indeed the Boeing X-32B :D

The design that lost out to the Lockheed-Martin X-35 aka Lightning II

The full view of the rear end and that chin!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/X32.jpg

Sycamore has control; I see your light is on, have you anything for us (and Silhouette Challenge)? If not, then please call Open House!

[sycamore]

Sorry lunch was burning......OPEN HOUSE..

[Noyade]

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5015/img154n.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/img154n.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Is it a Boeing B-50 Superforress?

[Noyade]

No mate. Not American. :)

[Noyade]

Maybe the drawing lacks detail?

Here's a photo...

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6406/2712680.jpg (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/2712680.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Kongjing-1.
Open House, if correct.

[Noyade]

That's the one sabredog. :)

Open House.

[skytrain10]

I was close! Same airframe :)

[MReyn24050]

Here is a nice easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Tailpipe8.jpg

[Noyade]

Hi Mel.

Mig 3...AQ rules! :ok:

(Now going back to make sure...)

Edit...can't locate it in AQ's archives? Definitely Soviet...

Edit 2...I remember seeing it and thinking the image was inverted. :)

Edit 3...Bugger, it's Tuesday. Open house if it is Mel....:(

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. You are perfectly correct it is the MiG 3 and it was the subject of AQ back in about 2006 I believe. As Graeme declares Open House.

[SincoTC]

let's have another sharp intake of breath, (no hidden clue there, just the other end for a change)!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge009.jpg

[Kitbag]

Was going for MiG 15, but how about the daddy of them all; Gloster E28?

[SincoTC]

Morning Kitbag,

Sorry, not one of those two; but it was fairly early!

[MReyn24050]

Fokker S14 perhaps.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Mel,

No perhaps about it sir :D!!

The Fokker S-14 Machtrainer was a Dutch two-seater military training jet aircraft designed and manufactured by Fokker for the Royal Netherlands Air Force. Development started in the late 1940s, and it was one of the first jet fighter training aircraft in the world, making its first flight on 19 May 1951 and entering service in 1955

MReyn24050 has control :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Trevor. Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Tailpipe9.jpg

[trucky04]

Grumman or something the U.S Navy would fly?

[Lightning Mate]

Good morning Mel.

Not dissimilar to the Chance Vought F2G1 Corsair Reno racer.

[sycamore]

With a 4-blader in front and exhaust flame shields,more likely an A-1 Skyraider..?

[MReyn24050]

Good Morning David. Sycamore has it, the aircraft is in fact a Douglas AD-4N Skyraider F-AZHK.

Are we going to get a challenge from you Sycamore?

[sycamore]

Sorry ,been `shopping`,so OPEN HOUSE....

[Noyade]

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8821/img171nc.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/img171nc.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Good evening Graeme,

Just a wild shot in the dark, is it a P-63 Kingcobra ??

I've got the dog back 'til Sunday, just off for a walk now on a wet and dark morning, Open House if correct! Don't think it is now, as it looks to be nose-mounted, a Russian or Jap maybe, alas as no time to look furthe right now!

[Lightning Mate]

Is that a Sabre V24?

[Noyade]

Morning!

Not a Cobra of any sort. Not Japanese or Russian or powered by a Sabre engine.
Not WWII.

[Lightning Mate]

So am I looking at a straight 12 (very unusual) or a V24?

Maybe a seaplane......

[Noyade]

Hi David.

12-cylinder Vee liquid-cooled.
Not a seaplane.

[Lightning Mate]

Lots of those around.

An Allison?

[Noyade]

Not an Allison.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5706/img174v.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/img174v.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Good grief - a bipe?

[Noyade]

:ok:.............

[Lightning Mate]

Curtiss?.....

[Noyade]

:ok:............

[Lightning Mate]

P6E Hawk?...

[Noyade]

:ok:

Your control David!

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/12/img175b.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/img175b.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks mate.

An unusual but easy one.....

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/oddjob-2.jpg

[Noyade]

Looks like a MRI scan of the left ventricle.

Cause of death - Severed aorta with steel mesh embolism.

Is the nose at left or right of screen?

[Lightning Mate]

Nose to the right.

[Noyade]

Thanks.

Interesting....

[Lightning Mate]

Just like your SC jobber............

This one, however, is on the web. :E

[Noyade]

Is this aircraft under water?

[Lightning Mate]

No mate...........

[Noyade]

(Sunday is getting closer.)

So, we have a twin-jet aircraft? Both intakes have steel mesh across the openings? Manned?

[sycamore]

Miles Sparrowhawk..?...OH if correct

[Lightning Mate]

Except that it isn't a twin-jet.

Manned.

Graeme, can you check back in on SC please.

[Noyade]

I got out of my chair, took 5 paces backwards. Twisted my head left and then right. Squinted even. I swear to God if you had of asked me if it was Animal, Vegetable or Mineral, I'd put 20 bucks on Animal...except for that mesh....

Good luck to fellow players! :)

Sunday here. Cheers David! :)

[Kitbag]

Loos more like a carb or oil cooler intake on an Me 410

[SincoTC]

Art'noon David,

issat a FW-190 supercharger intake??

Open House if correct please as break's over!

[Lightning Mate]

Attaboy TC - The Fw 152H-0. :ok:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/FockeWulfTa-152H-0.jpg

TC has declared Open House

[SincoTC]

Thanks LM,

Seeing as it's still my OH; I'll take it back and put another one up but I expect it'll go quickly!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge010.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Issa dark bit extreme lower right a wing?

[SincoTC]

'Artnoon David,

Issa dark bit extreme lower right a wing?

Indeed it is!

Edit:

Off home now, will be back online in about an hour

[Lightning Mate]

Bugger!

Then I don't get the bit on the left. :\

[SincoTC]

the bit on the left

That's also a part of the wing!

[skytrain10]

Looks a bit like a CF34 or ALF502 turbofan?

[MReyn24050]

The engine looks a bit like the Kolesov RD-36-51 as fitted to the Tu 144
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/800px-Tupolev_Tu-144_engine_nozzle.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good evening Mel,

You're spot on as usual :D!!

It is one of the four Kolesov RD-36-51 afterburning turbojets that powered the Tupolev Tu-144.

You have control :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Trevor. Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Tailpipe10.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good morning Mel,

I think that's a Viper tailpipe on the HP-115 (now at Yeovilton FAA Museum and well worth a visit)

[MReyn24050]

Hi Trevor. That is the one, I know the Museum well I used to work in Gazelle House just across the road from the museum.
Your control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mel,

Best to visit Yeovilton on one of their Cobham Hall "open house" days, very interesting additional things to see!

here's the next challenge!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge011.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Best to visit Yeovilton on one of their Cobham Hall "open house" days, very interesting additional things to see!

Yes that is when they open up their refurbishment hangar I believe. I see your latest one Trevor is a Rotary aircraft for a change.

[SincoTC]

Good evening Mel,

Cobham Hall is officially known as their "Reserve Collection", but it did look like they were doing restoration work in there when I last visited.

Not many about today! Of course, you're correct about my latest being a helicopter!

[MReyn24050]

Well Trevor seeing as nobody else has bitten I will say your challenge is the Agusta A129 Mangusta.

[SincoTC]

Hi Mel,

A bite from a Mongoose can be quite nasty!!

You're absolutely right, it is the Agusta A129 Mangusta powered by two Rolls-Royce Gem 2-1004D turboshafts (license built by Piaggio); it was the first Attack helicopter built in Western Europe :D

You have control :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Trevor. Here is a nice easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Tailpipe11.jpg

[Noyade]

Evening Mel.

Mikoyan-Gurevich I-270?

[MReyn24050]

HI Graeme
You have it the Mikoyan-Gurevich I-270
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/MikoyanI-270.jpg
Your control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel. Having trouble trying to be original, so how about a cross-section at the tailpipes?

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7725/img172a.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/img172a.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Avro Vulcan?

[Noyade]

Nice. :ok: Perfect timing mate.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5223/img187a.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/img187a.jpg/)

Your control Ken!

Bye.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Graeme. About to hit the hay, so Open House.

[Noyade]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3562/img189zz.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/img189zz.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Easy one - Sukhoi Su-15. ;)

[Noyade]

Your control mate. :ok:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9250/img193u.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/img193u.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Open House.

[Noyade]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2644/croppeda.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/croppeda.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

Issat a Yak-23 ??

[Noyade]

It is Trevor. Your control mate. :ok:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/907/800pxyak23utirearmuseum.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/800pxyak23utirearmuseum.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

And the next rear-end!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge012.jpg

[Noyade]

A few quick stabs before you retire. :)

Fiat G91, Aero L-39, F-86...?

[SincoTC]

I ain't retiring yet mate, just trying not to incinerate my supper!

Sorry, none of those!!

[Kitbag]

The 'Beware Jet Blast' puts me in mind of 1950's USN, maybe early navalised Sabre; FJ1 Fury?

[SincoTC]

Hi Kitbag,

you're spot on, it is the North American FJ1 Fury

Kitbag has control :ok:

[Kitbag]

I don't think the usual suspects will have any problems with this

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Chall19Nov.jpg

[SincoTC]

Morning Kitbag.

I think the RAT gives away the Fox, it looks like a Sea Vixen to me!

Sorry, but it'll have to be an Open House if correct as I'm very limited on time today :suspect:

[Kitbag]

It is, Open House

[Noyade]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8323/img178s.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/img178s.jpg/)

[sycamore]

I`ll start with a Convair 240,although a 4 blade prop was not regular ...

[Noyade]

Not a Convair mate.

[SincoTC]

G'day Graeme,

I think that's an Ilyushin Il-14 ??

[Noyade]

Evening Trevor.

Yes it is mate. Your turn. :)

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mate,

Here's the next, exhausting innit!

In and out of the kitchen again, but will keep an eye on it and try and have a look at your SC

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_Challenge013.jpg

[Noyade]

My thoughts.

All white = experimental?
The vertical fin could be 'webbing' between the fuselage and exhaust?

Bell X-5?

try and have a look at your SC

Don't wear yourself out. :)

[SincoTC]

The vertical fin could be 'webbing' between the fuselage and exhaust

Cunning bugger, well spotted mate!! I was in two minds whether or not to remove the colour :ugh:

It is the Bell X-5

Back to you :ok:

Edit:

Don't wear yourself out.

Thanks mate; I don't have to now that Ken's joined the party :)

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor. Looked quickly at some X-plane publications. Must admit, some other Bell products also looked promising.

Another...while you cook and chow down...

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/246/tryanything.jpg (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/tryanything.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

No chance to to get back for a look last night mate, visitors!!

Is that the wing-root we see, if so I assume it's a delta. Similar to the Convair Delta Dart before it had the final boat-tail extension and revised exhausts! Other than that, no idea and not going to have much free time today :(!

So is it a delta ? Not a Canard? Is that a trace of the fin we see, if so it looks not to have much chord length, unless it's a change of colour that makes is look short. Pure turbojet, 1950's ?

[Noyade]

Hi Trevor. It's a dark image from the net. Here's a different image - same aircraft - which should answer all your questions above...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8240/memate.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/memate.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Evening Graeme,

Ah, 'tiz a Breguet 1100 ?

Cheers TC