Challenge

[Noyade]

Indeed mate!
All yours.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6785/img742s.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/img742s.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Open House.

[Kitbag]

I'm sure this type has been featured before but Mels list seems to have disappeared so I apologise if you experts id it too easily.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/WCP9Mar13.jpg

[sycamore]

The exhausts seem to point towards the prop;so ,is it a `pusher` installation on one of those Saro flying boats,or similar...?

[Kitbag]

It is indeed a pusher installation, but not a SARO type

[sycamore]

Could be a Short Singapore 3...OH if correct

[Kitbag]

Not the Singapore, this was a little later than the glory days of the pre war flying boat and with a very different role.

[Lightning Mate]

Saab J 21A-3

Your uncropped photo I believe:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Saab_J_21A-3_zps1b6bc375.jpg

[Kitbag]

LM, the evidence is irrefutable, SAAB J 21A one of the few piston engine types to be successfully modified for jet power

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Kb.

I will have to call OH I'm afraid.

[MReyn24050]

Open House?
Here is an easy one to go on with ;-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Challenge1_zps9aa83a55.jpg

[Kitbag]

Fairey Albacore?

[MReyn24050]

This one is not from Fairey, Kitbag.

[Kitbag]

I think this is a single, radial engined naval torpedo bomber from the 1930's.
Assuming it's British.
How about the Blackburn Ripon?

[MReyn24050]

Your getting there Kitbag, it is an aircraft by Blackburn but not the Ripon.

[Lightning Mate]

Maybe Shark.

[MReyn24050]

It is indeed the Blackburn Shark:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/BlackburnShark_zps069aa8d6.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you Mel.

This one is not difficult.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/copy_zpsb6e898a5.jpg

[Noyade]

The Tugan Gannet. :ok:

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6787/vhuye2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/203/vhuye2.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

It is indeed.

Back to you. :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks mate.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8077/img771.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/img771.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Brditschka HB-23/2400 Scanliner perhaps.

[Noyade]

Well done mate, control returns to you. :ok:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1736/img772d.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/img772d.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Cheers mate.

Another, which should be very easy to find.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/jaws_zpsbb2c95b6.jpg

[Karlark]

Hi LM. Yak-20?

[Lightning Mate]

Hello Karlark - long time no see.

Not a Yak, but you are generally in the right part of the world.

[Karlark]

Soko type 522?

[Lightning Mate]

That's a deal Karl.

Over to you. :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks David. Try this one:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2013%20March/39_zps39b7d0b0.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Are we back in eastern Europe?

[Karlark]

It is from Europe but not Eastern Europe.

[Lightning Mate]

Civilian.?

[Karlark]

Trainer... one or two built.

[Noyade]

Hi Karl.

Is it Italian? The Macchi M.B.323?

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5658/1884709.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/1884709.jpg/)

These "splitting-nose jobs" keep reminding of that scene from "You Only Live Twice"...:)

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1820/whyx.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/whyx.jpg/)


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6702/youonlylivetwice11.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/youonlylivetwice11.jpg/)




http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6702/youonlylivetwice11.jpg

[Karlark]

Hi Graeme.

Is it Italian? The Macchi M.B.323?Yes and yes. :ok::ok: Your turn if you like.

These "splitting-nose jobs" keep reminding of that scene from "You Only Live Twice"Or a scene from "Alien" :)

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7513/img775z.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/img775z.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

An intake or cooling duct maybe.

[MReyn24050]

List updated today up to and including 18 March 2013. Unfortunately the Mods in their wisdom have decided that this thread should no longer be a "Sticky". I will endeavour to try to keep it on the same page.
Mel

[evansb]

SNECMA C.450 ?

[Noyade]

An intake or cooling duct maybe.

Yes.

SNECMA C.450 ?

No mate, but Wiki tells me it can do a zero-roll take off....

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate.

Maybe the Air and Space 18 Gyroplane.

[Noyade]

That's the one!
Your control.

Air & Space 18A - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_%26_Space_18A)

[Lightning Mate]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/weird_zps0f30f79a.jpg

[asw28-866]

Airship power plant?

[Lightning Mate]

It sure is.

[Lightning Mate]

What's keeping you?

It comes up straightaway on Goggle........

[asw28-866]

Ok I'll bite, as Google is my friend...Zeppelin NT?

'866

[Lightning Mate]

There ye go.

Your turn. :ok:

[asw28-866]

Thank you LM,

Apologies but will have to be OH as I can't remember my Photobucket id and am about to go do the night fright run!

'866

[Lightning Mate]

Oh dear!

Write down your ID somewhere near the computer mate.

[TheiC]

This may provide some light entertainment:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8733/23march2013.jpg

[sycamore]

Hicopleter..?..piston..?

[TheiC]

Sycamore,

No, and yes, respectively.

[Noyade]

I'm sure it's just me, unless you guys are performing a superb hoax, but I see no image?

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4558/clipboard01oy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/clipboard01oy.jpg/)

[TheiC]

Noyade,

I'm seeing the image there... It's a link to my US imageshack account. So sorry if you're missing it, let me know if it comes back please or I'll try to find another host. Can you see the cockpit posted in the other thread? That's on the same imageshack account...

[Noyade]

Can you see the cockpit posted in the other thread?

Affirmative mate. :ok:

But no challenge image yet. Still, it's a lazy Sunday morning here - it may turn up here soon. :)

[TheiC]

Well, let me know how you get on... Saturday evening here, and I have a six hour drive tomorrow through the snow to the Lake District... Didn't want to put nearly a thousand miles on my L a n d R o v e r (spelt out like that because otherwise this site converts it to say Trabant, doubtless some inside joke about a Mod) but I fear the other vehicle on my drive simply won't get me there! Oh to have your worries about the heat...

[Noyade]

Well, let me know how you get on

Will do. Best of luck with the snow mate, whatever that is. :)

Cheers.

[sycamore]

Graeme,it`s white,falls from cold clouds,sticks on the ground and brings the whole country to a standstill....as it`s `springtime here`,we`re supposed to be having a modest `heatwave` of about 10-12 degrees..it`s all Al Gore `s fault about global warming....

Back on track; looks a `slowish aeroplane` with bits sticking out...how about a large Brit biplane..?

[Noyade]

white,falls from cold clouds,sticks on the groundAhhh....I remember now! I've seen it...on Christmas cards!

Thanks Sycamore. Just blue skies and 28 deg C predicted here....again. :(

[TheiC]

a large Brit biplane..?

Sorry, no...

Now, I must away to bed for an early start with the shovel secured on the roof rack and the 72-hour supplies strapped down next to the Jetboil in the back...

[VX275]

Was this the only British military aircraft of the 50s to be fitted with an Eastern Bloc engine?

[TheiC]

Without a great deal of research, I wouldn't like to answer that!

I have a feeling you're about to name a possible aircraft...

[VX275]

As I've yet to crack the way to post images even when I know the answer, I just add to the clues so that I don't repeatedly have to say OH.
I know this aircraft as I've worked on it, which is why I'm puzzled that an aircraft built for the British Military at the height of the cold war should have a Czech built Walter Micron engine.

[TheiC]

Ah, thank you for the explanation. I think I understand your predicament.

May I, nonetheless, offer an alternative view?

In the past, there have been occasions on which one forumite has posted things which show that he has found the answer, without stating his solution... At that point, I have left those challenges alone, for fear of being found wanting in my research and deductions. A bit like a junior doctor not wishing to contribute to a bedside discussion of possible diagnoses, I have felt that I am no longer playing the game, but also, without my consent, playing to the gallery.

I (and doubtless others) would be delighted either to offer some help with image posting, because we need new blood, and recently several threads have suffered near-death experiences, or to hear your solutions and stand by to take up offers of open house.

As you and sycamore have doubtless noted, I am now trying to generate my own images rather than relying totally on material on the web, and I'll try to do more of this if more open houses come along.

Thanks for whatever you have done where you worked on the subject of this challenge, by the way, it's a lovely place to have nearby.

Why the engine choice? I guess the usual cocktail of mass, configuration, dimensions, availability, and price, plus or minus a few others...

[sycamore]

It has to be the `Durex Delta`..aka the ML Mk1 Utility Inflatabe aircraft...OH if correct..

[TheiC]

Sycamore has it... A wonderful machine!

[Noyade]

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/7424/img789.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/541/img789.jpg/)

[nacluv]

Yak-9?

.......

[Lightning Mate]

Morane-Saulnier?

[Noyade]

Morane-Saulnier?

Most certainly a Morane-Sauliner heritage - but this was not built in France.

[Lightning Mate]

What led me to that thought was the somewhat unique exhaust - exactly the same as the 406.

[Noyade]

Yes mate - this is a licence-built version of the Hispano-Suiza.

[Kitbag]

Swiss EKW D3800?

[Noyade]

That'll do me Kitbag! :ok:
In this case the 3802...

http://i45.tinypic.com/2d8kxvt.jpg

Your control.
Cheers.

[Kitbag]

TVM Noyade and LM for leading me to the answer :ok:

Here's an easy one (and hasn't Photobucket changed since I last did this)

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Chall27Mar.jpg

[Noyade]

The Whirlwind prototype mate. :)

http://i46.tinypic.com/zuj9c8.jpg

[Kitbag]

The Whirlwind prototype mate.

Yes indeed it is, YHC


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[Noyade]

Thanks Kitbag.

http://i45.tinypic.com/23k7jva.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Evening mate.

Goshawk engine?

[Noyade]

That's a 'go' for the Goshawk mate.

[Lightning Mate]

Thought you might have gone to bed.......

[Lightning Mate]

Supermarine 224?

[Noyade]

Not the Supermarine...

[Lightning Mate]

Blackburn F.3 ?

[Noyade]

Not the Blackburn...

[Lightning Mate]

Good grief!

Bristol Type 123?

[Noyade]

Not the Bristol...

[Lightning Mate]

Going through the list.

Westland F.7/30 ?

[Noyade]

It is not the Westland F.7/30.........:)

[Lightning Mate]

Hawker P.V.3 ?

[Noyade]

Not the Hawker...

[Lightning Mate]

Sod it.......

[Noyade]

Show me the list. Is this the one?...
Application list



Blackburn F3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_F3)
Bristol Type 123 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Type_123)
Gloster Gnatsnapper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_Gnatsnapper)
Hawker Fury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Fury)
Hawker P.V.3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_P.V.3)
Supermarine Type 224 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Type_224)
Westland Pterodactyl V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland-Hill_Pterodactyl)
Westland F.7/30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_F.7/30) (sometimes called the Westland P.V.4)

[Lightning Mate]

Found your image.

Westland-Hill Pterodactyl Mk V

[Noyade]

Westland-Hill Pterodactyl Mk V

Ya got there. :ok:

Yours.

[Lightning Mate]

Keep the glass full and standby....

[Lightning Mate]

Here ya go...

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/wot-6_zps3222ab6f.jpg

[Noyade]

The Avro Aldershot II...?

[Lightning Mate]

:D:D:D

Back to you mate, but it's getting late isn't it?

[Noyade]

Yep. Thanks mate.

Open House.

[Lightning Mate]

Cheers - sleep well.

[Noyade]

Looking for Easter eggs...

http://i49.tinypic.com/i1e835.jpg

[Noyade]

A bit more of the puzzle...

http://i46.tinypic.com/2r2q80p.jpg

[Karlark]

Loening Air Yacht?

Edit: to be more specific; the Custom 300 hp model?

[Noyade]

Loening Air Yacht

Your control Karl. :ok:

[Karlark]

Thanks Graeme. Happy Easter egg hunt! :)

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2013%20March/40_zps0d351670.jpg

[sycamore]

American taildragger,based on slick shoes,and slick tyres; weird undercarriage mechanism; early IR trials aircraft...?

[Karlark]

Hello Sycamore. American is correct. It was a standard camera installation, not (infrared).

[evansb]

Lockheed Altair ?

[Karlark]

Lockheed Altair ?

Close, in fact related to the Altair...

[Noyade]

Haven't found any eggs mate, but I did find this pic.
The "special" Lockheed Oríon camera ship used by Detroit news?

http://i47.tinypic.com/282jl7a.jpg

Or it could be the North American Aerofiles.com?

Happy Easter. :)

[Karlark]

That would be the one, Graeme. :ok:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2013%20March/4589930599_5ef511affe_z_zps2c9bd325.jpg

Your control.
Cheers

[Noyade]

Thanks Karl.

Still looking for Easter Eggs...

http://i47.tinypic.com/1ij5ew.jpg

[sycamore]

Suspect it might be an early P& W/CFM/R-R test engine on a B-47..? nice legs..

[Noyade]

No mate. A commercial airliner.

[evansb]

Lockheed L-1011 ?

[Noyade]

Yes mate. :ok:

Your control.

[evansb]

Thanks! Sorry, but I must declare OPEN HOUSE.

[Noyade]

Not to worry mate, I found a hole. :)

http://i45.tinypic.com/zyip1.jpg

[Noyade]

Russian APU exhaust.

[Lightning Mate]

Helicopter?

[Noyade]

Jet trainer mate.

I have injured myselfNothing too serious I hope? Not typing with your toes - are you?! :)

[sycamore]

Would have thought the paint would be better,and c`sunk rivets,but then it is Russian...Yak-130....OH if correct...

[Noyade]

You have it Sycamore. Well done. :ok:

Open house.

http://i47.tinypic.com/xd8014.jpg

[Noyade]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ui7l7d.jpg

[sycamore]

Are we in France,M`sieu..?

[Noyade]

Sycamore...India.

Sorry mate, bit of a mean one. It never flew...

http://i48.tinypic.com/156z33p.jpg

[Noyade]

It was the HJT-17 basic Trainer which was developed in parallel to the HJT-16 Kiran. The Kiran was eventually selected.

Open House.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2ldbod5.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

A little quiet around here.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/lookingatya_zps69f3885a.jpg

[TheiC]

Time passages here too.

This may be a very good challenge, or just a very left-field aircraft!

I first thought we might be looking at the aft end of an on-wing turboprop installation of some kind? Or it could be a weird twin APU exhaust set-up... The unfaired trailing edge either side hints at the latter, but if this is a tail, where is the rudder? Or, it could be (and probably is) something very exotic.

The same starter for ten as last time from me...

Did this aircraft enter series producton?

[VX275]

I think its a view from above and behind a helicopter, but other than that I don't have a clue.

[TheiC]

Yes, that thought crossed the dinner table here too...

But if so, what are the stubbby things?

[evansb]

The fast Eurocopter X-3 hybrid helicopter ?

[Agaricus bisporus]

is it a bell 222?

[TheiC]

I've a feeling evansb has it (lots of photos on the web, including some from this view)...

That said, I'm still puzzled by the stubby things! Does anyone know what they are? They look like vents or sensors...

[TheiC]

LM posted this excellent challenge four and a half days ago, and was last online, it appears, about 28 hours ago... My question, posted a little over 24 hours ago, remains unanswered.

Here's a picture, from above and behind, of the X3: http://www.tunersandmodels.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/eurocopter-x3-9.jpg

I'm happy that evansb has it. Anyone like to second, so that we can move on..?

That is, if the rules permit such a thing... If I'm out of order, tell me, please.

It would be lovely to regain a certain pace here.

[evansb]

Fare-thee-well gents. Due to my inability to edit "photobucket", I am compelled to say OPEN HOUSE...

[Lightning Mate]

evansb has certainly nailed it, and it remains OH.

[TheiC]

Thanks LM,

This one isn't on the intakes/exhausts list:

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/6228/dsc1103hf.jpg

[Noyade]

No idea mate.

What does it do? :)

[Lightning Mate]

WW2 ?.............

[TheiC]

Noyade,

It doesn't do anything, but stuff comes out of it!

LM,

Yes.

(I was going to post a slightly expanded view which would have eased things significantly, but I have a feeling LM might be on the right track; whether someone beats him to it is anyone's guess).

[Krakatoa]

Coolant from a RR Merlin PRV.

[TheiC]

Nothing along the Merlin line, I'm afraid, Krakatoa....

I'll try to add another image when I find time today.

[Lightning Mate]

Looking at the paint colour may I suggest American.

[TheiC]

You may suggest that...

Your suggestion would be a good one.

[stevef]

Looks rather like a DC3/C47 engine nacelle vent..

[TheiC]

Steve, it does indeed... Because it is one. The one on East Kirkby's C47, in fact.

You have control.

[stevef]

Thanks, TheiC, I was around Dakotas for a fair few years so it leapt out at me.

Anyone who's flown or worked on these aircraft will recognise this picture instantly.

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a517/directflight_tingwall/e15c8f51-2622-4eca-b66f-1fb244a9f205_zps326ebe71.jpg


[IMG]http://www.pprune.org/<a href=http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/directflight_tingwall/media/e15c8f51-2622-4eca-b66f-1fb244a9f205_zps326ebe71.jpg.html target=_blank>http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a517/directflight_tingwall/e15c8f51-2622-4eca-b66f-1fb244a9f205_zps326ebe71.jpg[IMG]http://www.pprune.org/[URL=http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/directflight_tingwall/media/e15c8f51-2622-4eca-b66f-1fb244a9f205_zps326ebe71.jpg.html]http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a517/directflight_tingwall/e15c8f51-2622-4eca-b66f-1fb244a9f205_zps326ebe71.jpg

[TheiC]

Well, I dare say it's either the pilot's door latch on a B-N Islander, or Trislander, or...

Something that looks identical to pilot's door latch on a B-N Islander, or Trislander.

How could I forget... That awful realisation that you've just strapped in, got comfy, stowed the papers (God only knows where), and are ready to commit aviation, when you realise that the door is still latched open and you have to undo the straps etc to shut it.

OH if correct, please.

[stevef]

Spot on TheiC! - it's a BN2 Islander cockpit door. Once seen (or heard, if the left mag switches are on), never forgotten.

[MReyn24050]

Try this one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Tailpipequiz52_zpscdcd56b5.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Mel. A Caproni of sorts?

[MReyn24050]

Hi Graeme.
This aircraft was not from the Caproni stable.

[Noyade]

The Grahame-White E.IV Ganymede?

[MReyn24050]

You have it Graeme. The Grahame-White E.IV Ganymede
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/473-1_zps0c8a1505.jpg

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel. Interesting machine.

Not so obscure...

http://i42.tinypic.com/207qm3p.jpg

[MReyn24050]

The engine is possibly a Wright R-760. The Naval Aircraft Factory N3N-3 Canary perhaps?

[Noyade]

That's him Mel. :ok:
Your control.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. Here is the next one. What engine and what installation?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Tailpipequiz54_zps6ce9aa25.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Good day Mel.

Do I see a gas turbine?

[MReyn24050]

Good Afternoon David. The engine is not a Gas turbine

[nacluv]

I am seeing that as a Vickers Wellington just after take-off carrying a third Hercules engine in the bomb bay.

For what purpose though, I have no idea.

[MReyn24050]

The engine is correct but the airframe is incorrect.

[nacluv]

I was just about to add that it is more likely to be a HP Halifax, judging by the shape of the undercarriage doors...

[MReyn24050]

You have it. It is indeed a Hercules and Halifax. You have control nacluv.

[nacluv]

Thanks, Mel.

I would love to know what that fifth Hercules was doing down there! GINMF in this instance. :( Do you happen to know? Is it as simple as just a means of ferrying spare engines?

Meanwhile, I'll have a look round for another challenge!

[MReyn24050]

Nothing exciting Nacluv. Just as you say. The publication from which the photograph came from states that it is a spare engine installed in the bomb bay using the bomb crutches for transportation purposes.

[nacluv]

How prosaic! I was hoping for something much more secret squirrel!

I'm running out of time tonight, so I am reluctantly declaring 'open house'. I'll try to find something ASAP but if anyone has one to hand then please be my guest.

[Noyade]

if anyone has one to hand then please be my guest. Thanks mate! :)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2le0w7.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Engine is possibly a BMW VI? It looks like a V12 engine. The BMW VI was fitted to the Heinkel 70 although this aircraft does not look like the Heinkel 70.

[Noyade]

Engine is possibly a BMW VI?Powered by a variety of engines Mel, and I'm not entirely sure what the power-plant above is, but the standard was a Napier Lion. Another was the Rolls-Royce Eagle. But no German engines and not a German aircraft mate.

Here's the Napier Lion...

http://i42.tinypic.com/23jx2p.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme.
I think the engine in your challenge photograph is a Rolls-Royce Eagle VII or IX.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/RREagleIX_zps20e62ff5.jpg

Both of these engines together with the Napier Lion was installed in separate versions of the Vickers Vulcan. However I cannot quite get my head around the apparent thickness of the wing that the guy is standing on.

[Noyade]

Morning Mel.

However I cannot quite get my head around the apparent thickness of the wing that the guy is standing on. This may help mate...

http://i40.tinypic.com/1znmx5c.jpg

[Noyade]

Vickers Vulcan

Forgot to answer that mate. Not a British aircraft.

Cheers.:)

[MReyn24050]

Morning Graeme. VAN BERKEL TYPE W.B. SEAPLANE MONOPLANE or S 3 - Heinkel HE 2 "Hansa" perhaps?

[Noyade]

Evening Mel.

Some very similar looking machines there! Your Van Berkel is in the right country.

It's Dutch. Very famous manufacturer. But according to Wiki, the only country that used them was Portugal...

Cheers.

[Lightning Mate]

Fokker T3.

[Noyade]

Yes, the Fokker T.IIIW. :ok:

Your control.

[Lightning Mate]

Cheers.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/fuzzy-1_zps9e1fb4db.png

[Noyade]

Blackburn Pellet?

[Lightning Mate]

That will do nicely mate - see you tomorrow (today). :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks mate, but heading to work now, so Open House.

[Kitbag]

Wish you'd left that last challenge up I was going towards an early Hughes 500. Anyway, to get this thread back to the top have a look at this one:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Chall11May.png

[eckhard]

NA B-45 Tornado?

[Kitbag]

Indeed it is, you have control

[Noyade]

Wish you'd left that last challenge up Sorry Kitbag. It slunk to the bottom and then over to page 2 without a nibble of interest, so I pretended it never happened. Sometimes it's hard to assess the degree of interest in these sorts of threads. I will put if back when the situation allows.

Cheers mate.

[Kitbag]

No worries, looking forward to its reappearance, probably need loads of time to work out what that ring of 'nozzles'? was for anyway :8

[Noyade]

Not sure if eckhard is returning, so in the meantime...

http://i41.tinypic.com/31509ad.jpg

Not a Hughes kitbag, but it is a helicopter.

what that ring of 'nozzles'? was forSmoke generator! :)

http://i39.tinypic.com/674j86.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Hughes UH1.

[Noyade]

Hughes UH1. I'm sure you meant Bell?

It is indeed the Bell UH-1H in the "smoker" mission. Your control. :ok:

http://i40.tinypic.com/34i1xjk.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Open house.

[Noyade]

One for the injun buffs...

http://i40.tinypic.com/11ug2ex.jpg

[MReyn24050]

The engine looks like a Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6 so possibly the aircraft is a Pilatus PC-9.

[Noyade]

Good morning Mel.

Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6I believe so mate. Physically, the challenge machine is much bigger than the PC-9. Normally powered by a piston engine there were models powered by a turboprop.

[MReyn24050]

From your statement Normally powered by a piston engine there were models powered by a turboprop I take it we are looking at a single engined aircraft. Howabout the DHC2 Beaver conversion?

[Noyade]

Yes Mel, it is a single engine aircraft, Canadian and from De Havilland, but not the Beaver....

[evansb]

The DHC-3 Turbine Otter then? http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6546401531_5d774b49c2_z.jpg

[Noyade]

That's the one Brian. Your control. :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks. here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/4dde2a11-24aa-40a1-857f-45dc05c0c1c0_zps7a3690c2.jpg

[eckhard]

B-52 tail cone?

[evansb]

Yes, it is the tail of a Boeing B-52. :ok: Your turn.

[TheiC]

In the absence of a reply from eckhard...

...how long before someone can take this to be an Open House..?

[evansb]

Right now! 24 hour being the usual...

[Kitbag]

Try this one.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Chall25May.jpg

[TheiC]

The closest I can find is a Hornet Moth... But it's not a perfect match underneath...

So, asking the blindingly obvious question (and therefore probably completely falling into the trap): is this a DH aircraft?

[Kitbag]

Good question











No

[TheiC]

Hmmm.

So, putting the work I did on my Master's degree (in the Blinking Obvious) to use, I'll step as gracefully as I can onto the next trap by asking...

Stampe?

...in the full knowledge that this will turn out to be the pre-production prototype of some very exotic machine I've never heard of, but at least we'll have eliminated another possibility.

[Kitbag]

Ok, I'll play nicely.
Its British, was a one off from a well known manufacturer, flew in the same decade as the Stampe

[TheiC]

Thanks Kitbag, very much in the spirit of the forum.

I'm sure the cognoscenti are splitting their sides at my logical, iterative, and hopelessly inept deductions...

Miles Hobby? Or something else from the Miles stable?

[Kitbag]

Ooh you are so close. Miles it is, but which one ?



and it seems you are the only one with the right idea!

[Kieron Kirk]

M.6 Hawcon.

Ciarain.

[Kitbag]

Close but no banana Ciarain

[Kieron Kirk]

M.5 Sparrowhawk.

Ciarain.

[TheiC]

M4 nextonthelistHawk?

(good game, I think he's got it perhaps)...

[Kitbag]

Getting there gents

[Kieron Kirk]

Ah post 3710....

M.4 Merlin.

Ciarain.

[Kitbag]

I'm starting to feel like a model number Nazi; I know you guys are so close but...




and anyway TheIC suggested that earlier

[MReyn24050]

You say was a one off from a well known manufacturer, flew in the same decade as the Stampe What about the Miles M.2S The long-range single seat version of the Hawk Major?

[Kitbag]

Late bid from Mel closes it down. It is a single seat Miles M2 Hawk Major.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/700/smaranda02e0dc.jpg

Mel, YHC

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Kitbag. However, the accolade should go to TheiC. Spotted that it was a Miles product. Once he had gathered all the clues it was just a case of consulting Don L Brown's excellent book "Miles Aircraft since 1925".

Over to you TheiC.

[TheiC]

That's very kind. The arrangement identified the engine, which led to the a range of possibilities, and then it was just whittling it down.

I'm afraid I don't have anything to hand which passes the GI test, so let's make it Open House.

[MReyn24050]

Well as you have nothing to post here is one that I am sure will not cause a problem:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/challenge2_zpsbfaaa4b6.jpg

[Kitbag]

Is this Dornier Do 17Z-2 ,Werk Nummer 1160 on the Goodwin sands?

[MReyn24050]

No not the Dornier Kitbag.

[Noyade]

One of two jet engines hugging the fuselage?
It's on your list but could it be the Su-25?

http://i42.tinypic.com/2s798c1.jpg

[MReyn24050]

You are of course correct Graeme. The "Frogfoot". It would appear these aircraft could survive some really harsh battle damage.

You have control.

[nacluv]

Not so much hugging the fuselage. More like trying to escape its clutches...

[Noyade]

Thank you Mel.

Not much to offer I'm afraid....

http://i40.tinypic.com/2w7l5wi.jpg

[Kitbag]

Probably a flying boat and this 'looks' Italian somehow. Any chance it's this; Macchi M33

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Macchi_M.33.jpg

[Noyade]

Macchi M33

Well done mate, it is indeed. :ok:

Your control. Cheers.

[Kitbag]

TVM, been a while since I got anything right, so 2 in one day feels good. This should ensure the baton is passed on rapidly;

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/Chall28May.jpg

[Noyade]

G'day Kitbag.

This I believe?...

http://i44.tinypic.com/2wmqp1z.jpg

[Kitbag]

G'day Kitbag.

This I believe?...

IMAGE#1

Yep Dassault Mystere IVN. YHC


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[Noyade]

Thanks Kitbag.

Here's another...

http://i41.tinypic.com/2uz7cyb.jpg

[Kitbag]

How about the AIDC F-CK1 Ching-kuo?

[Noyade]

Evening Kitbag!

No mate, not that Chingy thing.

[ICT_SLB]

Are you continuing the French theme with the Dassault Mirage IV?

[Noyade]

No mate, no French theme here. No Mirage.

[nacluv]

Is it a cleverly inverted photo of an F18 rear end?

[Heathrow Harry]

Strange & Weird Airplanes of the World a5sj3 ? RealityPod (http://realitypod.com/2010/09/strange-weird-airplanes-of-the-world/a5sj3/)

any ideas??

[Noyade]

Is it a cleverly inverted photo of an F18 rear end?
I'm not clever mate.

It's from Russia.

[Kitbag]

Had considered the Mig 35 before I went with the Chinese thing, so, is it that?

[Noyade]

Not the 35 mate, but it is a MiG....

[Noyade]

Here is the un-cropped photo Kitbag....

http://i43.tinypic.com/358pff5.jpg

[evansb]

MAPO Mig 1.42 ?

[Noyade]

Well done Brian, your control mate! :ok:

[evansb]

Thanks mate! Here is another challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/e8-21_zps4c79ec67.jpg

[Noyade]

Another experimental MiG mate? Ye-8?