Originally Posted by davidjpowell
(Post 11593122)
I can get to the centre of Leeds more quickly from finningley than from from Leeds Bradford..
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Originally Posted by DP.
(Post 11597750)
I'm curious. How?
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Comparing a Car to Bus? hahahaha ok legit.
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell
(Post 11597817)
By car. About 40 mins. Whereas the same journey took an hour on the bus last time I tried from LBA.
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Originally Posted by DP.
(Post 11597848)
That's good. How long does it take on public transport from Finningley? And how long in a car from LBA?
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DSA in 40mins from the centre of Leeds - impossible legally. A quick check (at midnight) and Google maps is giving a travel time of 54 mins! Try that journey during the day and it’s a nightmare, firstly having to manage the M62 and then the snarled up 2 lane A1 and Doncaster bypass. I travel from Leeds to Donny regularly and that journey can often be up to 2hrs!
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Latest rumour is Head Lease is agreed, and can be signed once the two mayors stop bickering about who is going to announce it. Progress.
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell
(Post 11606272)
Latest rumour is Head Lease is agreed, and can be signed once the two mayors stop bickering about who is going to announce it. Progress.
Let’s see who they can get in to run it first, far too much politicking going on at the moment to get a clear picture. York Aviation have issued caution I see.. |
Lease agreement between Doncaster and Peel has been signed, term of 125 years. No operator appointed as yet.
Not strictly DSA related, but with some comments in the past stating marketing of services being poor, this latest move by Sheffield City Council isn’t exactly going to help matters is it: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/polit...-fuels-4561300 No option then to have a FlyDSA arena again in future I assume. Something that Peel did do to increase profile. |
Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11620717)
Not strictly DSA related, but with some comments in the past stating marketing of services being poor, this latest move by Sheffield City Council isn’t exactly going to help matters is it: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/polit...-fuels-4561300 No option then to have a FlyDSA arena again in future I assume. Something that Peel did do to increase profile. When actual passenger numbers will be determined by who bases and the availability of reliable flights /holiday packages to varied destinations, isn't it those company's advertising efforts on the web, social media, TV and Radio that will generate the numbers. Who bases will be determined by the operator, and I have my own hopes it will be V one that can bring along Easy, Wizz, Vueling & TUI to take a good part of the cross Pennines leakage of pax to MAN |
I've just read the BBC article and I can't see any clear reference to returning the site to a fully functioning commercial airport.
I see a 125 year lease has been signed for 'the site' which to my mind suggests it could just as easily be used for warehousing and distribution while retaining the airfield for non commercial general aviation. Obviously a lot depends on who is appointed as the operator but they are surely going to need deep pockets and be prepared to lose money for several years, assuming that paying operators can be convinced to offer services. The reality is that away from SE England the UK need fewer rather than more airports. |
Originally Posted by G-FORZ
(Post 11621328)
Is Bill Board advertising and Arena sponsorship that effective in current markets?
When actual passenger numbers will be determined by who bases and the availability of reliable flights /holiday packages to varied destinations, isn't it those company's advertising efforts on the web, social media, TV and Radio that will generate the numbers. Who bases will be determined by the operator, and I have my own hopes it will be V one that can bring along Easy, Wizz, Vueling & TUI to take a good part of the cross Pennines leakage of pax to MAN Current consensus would say that the preferred bidder is not Vinci. I’d be surprised if anyone outside of the NDA really knows all that much short of some industry speculation. ATNotts, Ros Jones of Doncaster Council has stated that passenger services are a priority and it has been the focus of their tender. Not clear at the moment how the organisational structure will look, as there are conflicting statements from the Council. Will it be Council owned and merely run by an appointed operator, or will the operator be responsible for all ongoing investment after all initial public subsidies end? Lots of questions still to be answered, and I think the lease was the easy bit. |
Ros Jones of Doncaster Council has stated that passenger services are a priority |
Statement from 2Excel reads that they are looking to return, even to an unlicensed airfield. I can't remember the in's and out's of what and how, but could they operate the 727's in that way, does the size or type of aircraft even matter? They used to be regular scud runners over where I live, so flying outside of controlled airspace wasn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by MikeeB
(Post 11621427)
Statement from 2Excel reads that they are looking to return, even to an unlicensed airfield. I can't remember the in's and out's of what and how, but could they operate the 727's in that way, does the size or type of aircraft even matter? They used to be regular scud runners over where I live, so flying outside of controlled airspace wasn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11621436)
Presumably for their type of operation there would be no issue, what do Lasham do when the big stuff arrives and departs for maintenance?
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Originally Posted by jumpseater
(Post 11621594)
They operate air ground as an unlicensed aerodrome.
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Originally Posted by pug
(Post 11621623)
Sorry, meant in terms of fire cover with ref the 727. Not sure on the regs for operating them outside of CAT.
RFFS cover isn’t required at an unlicensed aerodrome, however local fire services would normally be provided with data regarding the aerodromes typical operations. |
Originally Posted by MikeeB
(Post 11621427)
Statement from 2Excel reads that they are looking to return, even to an unlicensed airfield. I can't remember the in's and out's of what and how, but could they operate the 727's in that way, does the size or type of aircraft even matter? They used to be regular scud runners over where I live, so flying outside of controlled airspace wasn't an issue.
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How much equipment will need replacing? ILS? Approach lights?
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