As I said, the passenger function will be on a much smaller scale than previously. I can promise you that passenger services are not their priority at all.

Everyone involved knows passenger services will not keep the place going. As I said, you may get a small TUI base, but that will be it.

So what is the plan to make money? Cargo (if so, the same question applies - who?), Business park with a runway in the middle?

Thanks - that was where I was heading. With BOH being opened with 2 a/c and LPL being so close to MAN, I was wondering if DSA could give Jet2 extra capacity to the east of the Pennines if LBA was getting stretched.

Bigger operations from 2Excel judging from their statement last week. Could it be double- triple from pre closure levels. If so that would be a significant increase of income.

Timmy has never been reliable when it comes to DSA, although eventually he got lucky with its closure.

Having said that any new entrant expecting to massively grow passenger traffic would be naïve. It will be a gradual thing, which looks to being supported by a multi-use airfield. While I'm pleased with the prospect of the airport opening I have a degree of concern as to the overnight noise. It will be what it will be,

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/jet2-b...rnemouth-45518

ends any speculation of a DSA base, so back to just TUI?

Even as a supporter of DSA I don't expect to see a sudden influx of airlines desperate to get in. It will be a steady slog with hopefully the experienced operator trying out new contacts...

Jet2 always seemed unlikely.

Wizz have rules themselves out returning. I don't know TUI have the spare aircraft or the appetite to do it again.

As I said before, people expecting passenger ops to be a priority are going to be very disappointed. All those posting on Facebook excited about being able to fly to Spain from there again are going to have a shock.

They are going after other business, not passenger ops.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...pments-4564748
Not just the people on Facebook


Such as? Even an expanded 2Excel (doing what?) isn't going to pay many bills.

The overheads will be far less in attracting that type of business.

I would be surprised if they can't get Tui back, obviously commercials depending.

But they will not want to go through cancellations, so I would not expect to see them before 2026, and unless (and highly unlikely) another airline offers to base a few aircraft there in the meantime, I suspect that is when passenger operations may restart.

And agreed on the FB group. There are a lot of naive people, who seem to think that flights will magically restart and the previous programme will simply resume. I think actually for DSA's longevity, starting away from passengers is a good thing.

Potential re-opening of the airport is providing growth already in certain sectors of local industry :ok:

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk...erator-4577997

As ever, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Watch this space as there are a number of airlines in discussion.

Winter25 would be my guess as a start, gives operations a chance to get to grips with what’s required as no doubt they’ll be plenty of green staff.

Is the Vulcan still safe at the moment?

If there was no commercial case for the original DSA to operate, I fail to see how anything has changed.

Half a dozen airlines tried it and none, besides TUI, succeeded. TUI alone couldn't keep the lights on.

My concern is that a reopening could be seen as nothing more than a vanity project, burning taxpayers money to the tune of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of pounds, running at a perpetual loss. The guarantees they'd have to provide prospective airlines would be incredibly burdensome if not downright eye-watering. I understand there's a lot of local support but kind words don't pay the bills and if the yields weren't sufficient to keep the cogs turning in the past, why would it change now? Cargo is one possibility but you already have the UK's largest air freight hub less than 60 miles down the road.

I'd rather see a solid plan for viability instead of agreeing to burn shedloads of cash upfront on the basis it might work this time.

I say this as someone who used DSA regularly in the past and supported the airport as much as possible. If it's viable, I'm all for it. If it's not, let's get real.

Spending cash upfront is inevitable when setting up an airport. Some of that capital spend of course would be recoverable to some extent if it shuts down again, and some won't.

But you have to have faith in the people advising the council and the fact that they have reputable and experienced operators wanting to run it...

Can't disagree with that. The only concern would be if the advisors / consultants were telling their client, the council what they wanted to hear, rather than a warts and all picture.

And that NEVER happens of course..................... :p[/QUOTE]


“He who pays the piper calls the tune”

I was always taught that consultants were only employed to produce reports that backed the views of the CEO of any organisation - that way he/she had an"outside" report to brandish at people..................