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pabely 23rd Aug 2021 12:00

More of an Easy or Virgin trick with a franchise, RYR don't tend to diversity in that way unless it is a revenue stream run by someone else.

OzzyOzBorn 23rd Aug 2021 15:53

The particular problem facing a company such as Ryanair is that a significant proportion of their customers are in the short breaks market. Whilst the hassle and expense of unnecessary covid testing may be just about worth it to save a two week holiday, it probably isn't for a discretionary long weekend away. And certainly it isn't viable for those who would generally take several short breaks per year. It isn't just the money. If your full days in destination are (for example) Saturday and Sunday, imagine having to spend the Sunday searching for a covid testing clinic in a foreign city where you don't speak the language (if they actually open on a Sunday, that is). Do you go on holiday for that? Meanwhile, the threat of quarantine lingers too.

And whilst my cited example refers to leisure travel, short business trips are rendered equally impractical by these restrictions as well.

The government know what they're doing here: they're able to pretend that they have opened up overseas travel to the masses whilst in reality setting the bar so high that few can make use of the 'opportunity'. And I strongly suspect that alot of this is driven by anti-carbon climate zealots (pre COP-26) rather than those genuinely concerned about covid spread. They'll keep this going for as long as they can get away with it. Citizens of Continental European countries aren't being forced to endure this nonsense ... and the UK had a two month start on them in meaningfully vaccinating the populace.

We need to get together at an industry level and demand a complete end to unnecessary PCR testing for travel. We were told they were required to detect new variants sneaking into the country. Well, to achieve that, those returning positive results need to be sequenced. And we know that this is happening in only 5% of cases. Quite useless. So the lies of the politicians behind this are clearly exposed. The ONLY purpose of all those PCR tests is to put air travel well beyond the reach of most ordinary people. And the politicians seem quietly content for this situation to drag on indefinitely, with contemporary debate focusing on the cost of tests rather than the justification for requiring them at all.

I'm aware that MO'L has called out this hypocrisy in media interviews. I've noted similar representations from MAG and Jet2. We need more to join in now. A concerted industry-wide campaign. The time has come to agitate for these testing requirements to be scrapped, not marginally reduced in price. The airline industry owes UK politicians no loyalty or thanks. We owe them no courtesy. Remember Rishi's promised "tailor-made package of help for the airline industry" ... whatever did happen to that? And Labour are even worse than the Tories. Their kneejerk refrain at every opportunity has been to call for harsher restrictions and longer lockdowns. Libs and SNP likewise. I despair. Only a hardcore of backbench Conservatives have spoken with any sense on these matters. How have we let it come to this?

davidjohnson6 23rd Aug 2021 20:38

Ozzy has a point... but may not be aware that there are ways to do weekend breaks from the UK. I am less worried about weekend breakers with Ryanair

The first thing is to get a pack of 7 antigen-self-tests from your local pharmacy for free. Test everyone in your group the night before you leave home to minimise the risk of surprises

Collinson (one of the more reputable testers) has on-site testing at multiple airports. At Luton airport, they open for business at 5am each day
One turns up at the airport 2 hours before one's flight, get an antigen test for about £35, PDF of results in your phone available 30 mins later... if all is good, then get on the aircraft. If one does a test in the UK with a recognised test clinic (eg Collinson) on Friday morning, the PDF produced covers you for a return to the UK until Monday evening without the risk of quarantine happening anywhere (unless you get a random on-arrival test in Greece) or having to look for a clinic while on holiday. Choose hotels which are refundable until midday on arrival day if you are particularly cautious

Of course there is the cost of the antigen and PCR tests - total about £100 per person... but those weekend breaks can be done while limiting the risk

From the UK, if double vaccinated, it's only really Benelux, Bulgaria, Hungary, Italy, Sweden and maybe Greece + Serbia that is out of bounds for weekend breaks... everywhere else is doable right now

Flightrider 23rd Aug 2021 20:45

DJ6, I can't dispute or decry a word that you've written, but you're a braver soul than I. I suspect most of the average travelling public could do what you're suggesting but simply don't have the confidence to take the plunge and do so. I put myself firmly into that category - the desire to travel doesn't (yet) outweigh my perception of the likely hassle factor.

buzz_hornet 23rd Aug 2021 22:17

Ryanair appear to have removed all Belfast International flights from sale after 30 October 2021. The airline is also expected to leave Belfast City on 12 September 2021 If true, it will mean no Ryanair flights in Northern Ireland

Alteagod 24th Aug 2021 06:08

Have heard from well placed sources that BHD would not entertain his demands for terminal changes unless FR committed to winter flying program. Not sure how tru but maybe Mr Ambrose successor is a bit more hard nosed with FR.

Sober Lark 25th Aug 2021 15:33

Recovery of passenger confidence to fly will take time so not unexpected.

4eyed anorak 26th Aug 2021 07:38

Its all to do with what Ryanair believes are not enough airport/tax incentives.

VickersVicount 26th Aug 2021 23:03

So what other UK regional airports are giving them big enough incentives? How long will NCL last ? Doesnt that just skew the market

mikkie4 27th Aug 2021 01:41

About as long as SEN

SWBKCB 27th Aug 2021 06:56

Slightly different business model. RYR are filling the gaps left by EZY and TCX at NCL.

southender 27th Aug 2021 17:59

There was a mighty big gap to fill at SEN when easyJet left.

SWBKCB 27th Aug 2021 18:06

Apples and Oranges - NCL has a wide range of scheduled operators, and had Jet2, TOM and RYR as well when EZY left. SEN had a small number of LCC's. SEN's business model was based on picking up the overspill when the other London airports reached capacity, NCL aims to serve the local region. Shall we get back to Ryanair?

Just a spotter 6th Sep 2021 15:29

It would appear that for now, Ryanair and Boeing are not besties, as MOL has walked away from negotiations for 737 MAX 10's and is 'throwing shade' on the way out the door.

From The Irish Times, 6th Sept 2021


“However, Boeing have a more optimistic outlook on aircraft pricing than we do, and we have a disciplined track record of not paying high prices for aircraft,” [...]“We do not share Boeing’s optimistic pricing outlook, although this may explain why in recent weeks other large Boeing customers such as Delta and Jet2, have been placing new orders with Airbus, rather than Boeing,” he said.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ment-1.4666094

Curious Pax 6th Sep 2021 18:05

By MOL’s standards that was a very polite, measured statement that smacks of an expectation of talking again within a few months!

True Blue 6th Sep 2021 18:16

Does MOL have as much power as he thinks. There are really only 2 aircraft suppliers now. Fall out with one, the other has him over a barrel. Unless he wants to buy from China!

The96er 6th Sep 2021 18:21

Or Russia perhaps !

EI-BUD 6th Sep 2021 19:29

I completely agree with this. It might be the low cost way to have typically a common fleet but with the likes of MC-21 in Russia (which soon will be in service), and Comac in Russia which MOL has talked about before, I think it's only a matter of time until one of these types makes an appearance in Europe. Russia has lost his international business on the Sukhoi and have learned lessons. I wouldn't rule anything out.

Just a spotter 6th Sep 2021 19:46

The MAX-10's, if ordered, seem to have been pencilled in for Lauda.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...o-retire-a320s

Perhaps Airbus have retained that foot hold

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...he-right-price

EI-BUD

Cityjet didn't have a happy time with their Russian choice, the SuperJet 100 didn't live up to expectations.

https://flyinginireland.com/2019/01/...hoi-operation/

OzzyOzBorn 6th Sep 2021 22:08

The main problem with the SSJ-100 seemed to be the complete lack of engineering support and access to spare parts once the aircraft was operating outside the Russian sphere. Aircraft could be grounded for lengthy periods if a technical fault arose ... faults which could be rectified quickly on a Western type with abundant spares to hand. This seemed to be the main problem encountered by Interjet in Mexico; I understand that Cityjet had issues too. If Comac wish to make inroads into markets beyond Russia, they need to learn the lesson from Sukhoi's experience. There needs to be a supply line linking overseas fleets with ready access to spares and engineering support.

EI-BUD 12th Sep 2021 06:14

Thanks Just A Spotter,
Completely, Cityjet's experiment with the Sukhoi failed sadly. However, this does not mean that the we won't see the MC21 appearing in Europe, if the Russian's want to make this new entity work they will need to get their support services into order. I wouldn't discount the new type.

On the Cityjet topic the main driver for the withdrawal of the type was the experience that Brussels Airlines had with the type and their subsequent rejection of the aircraft.

Curious Pax 12th Sep 2021 09:22

Interesting that 3 of Ryanair’s 737s being prepared at Boeing have been changed from EI- registrations to 9H- despite being in full Ryanair livery. All other 9H- models have been in Malta Air livery, and the SP- models that have started being delivered are in Buzz colours. What can it all mean?

Noxegon 12th Sep 2021 12:17

I've flown on a Ryanair-liveried jet with a Maltese registration before.

Curious Pax 12th Sep 2021 13:59

You’re quite right, a load of the -800s were moved to 9H-. What surprised me was that these new ones are in the same 9H-VU* series as the Malta Air-liveried ones

Welshtraveller 13th Sep 2021 16:38

Bristol - Wroclaw
 
Is Ryanair flying from Bristol to Wroclaw next summer? If so, when are the flights usually released? The schedule ends in late March. Thanks.

MARKEYD 13th Sep 2021 21:45

Would suggest you keep an eye out on the website like everyone else , no one really knows till FR release their schedule

tictack67 14th Sep 2021 07:07

Or until the wheels leave the ground

Just a spotter 15th Sep 2021 08:22

From The Irish Times, 14th Sept 2021


Ryanair has invested €50 million in a new aviation training centre in Dublin. The airline said it intends to use the centre to train more than 5,000 new pilots, cabin crew, engineers and ground operations staff across Europe over the next five years.

The new centre […] contains three full-motion simulators – one 737 MAX and two Airbus A320 – together with two fixed-base simulators for the Boeing 737 and Airbus A320. […] Ryanair said the Airbus simulators at the new training centre would be used for staff at its Lauda Air subsidiary.
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ntre-1.4673846

The Airbus commitment seems at odds with previous statements about phasing out the A320 in Lauda and switching the fleet to 737 MAX.

HH6702 15th Sep 2021 11:28

maybe he walked away from Boeing last week as he is about to get a deal with Airbus

MerchantVenturer 16th Sep 2021 19:30

Welshtraveller

Wroclaw now appears in the Ryanair booking engine from Bristol for summer 2022 but only until mid-June. That is also the situation with the other Ryanair Polish routes from BRS. Random checks from other UK airports to Poland show a similar situation at some of them.

chaps1954 17th Sep 2021 08:42

Maybe a work in progress

davidjohnson6 5th Oct 2021 10:34

In spring 2020, Ryanair was due to start some routes from Armenia
Wizz are starting Yerevan routes in Dec 2021.
Transavia have just announced a Yerevan route
AirArabia / FlyArna are planning to open a Yerevan base

I'm wondering if we might see Ryanair revive their Armenia plans soon. With Turkey and Azerbaijan as neighbours (and relations not exactly friendly !), air travel becomes rather more important than in other countries.

CW247 5th Oct 2021 16:17

Hi all. A strange one. A couple of days ago, I stepped off a Ryan Air flight with a heavy headache. It persisted for 36 hours. Unheard of for me. I'm flight crew myself. The next morning, one of my finger nails turned blue. I noticed on a previous flight too, around a month ago, the cabin air quality on FR flights is bad. The last flight had very poor flow from the vents. Is there anything they have done recentlywith regards to packs or filters that might be responsible for what I experienced? I'm a reasonably fit and healthy guy. Passed a medical past month!

CCFAIRPORT 6th Oct 2021 10:14

NEW BASE : VENICE
18 new routes

cagliari
comiso
cork
crotone
gdansk
helsinki
katowice
lisbon
madrid
marseille
menorca
nuremberg
odessa
santander
stockholm arlanda
toulouse
trapani
vienna

all begins march 2022

Seljuk22 6th Oct 2021 16:59

CCFAIRPORT

Wizz announced the same today.

Nil by mouth 13th Oct 2021 17:03

Ryanair Bird Strike
 
Not sure if this is newsworthy or not?
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/...y-bird-strike/

armagnac2010 13th Oct 2021 17:07

No it's not, unless you are a direct relative of the poor bird. Even if being 'hit by bird strike' is a remarkable achievement....

eu01 18th Oct 2021 05:28

Is there any significant dispute between Ryanair and Corfu airport right now? Came to my mind as the connections to CFU in the next Summer schedule are only a small fraction of what it used to be...

candj 18th Oct 2021 09:27

Hi,Anyone have any news on Rynair out of Eastmidlands for next summer. Trying to book but nothing available, all other Rynair airport appear to be now on sale. Eastmidlands and Ryanair suits what I need, don’t want to have to book Birmingham and then find out Eastmidlands will be available after all.Thanks.

CCFAIRPORT 18th Oct 2021 10:39

3 new routes cancelled this winter due to lake of slots

Lisbon-Bari
Lisbon-Oujda
Lisbon-Tours


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