Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11597764)
Not a win win at all. TUI lose significant control of their product. Customers ask more questions why they should book with TUI when booking direct may be cheaper. What is TUI really providing that booking.com and ryanair.com cannot ?
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Reggio Calabria will be a new base with 1 based aircraft
https://corporate.ryanair.com/novita...ggio-calabria/ |
Ryanair are abandoning all domestic routes within Sweden, blaming taxes, fees blah blah blah. Affects ARN - LLA/SKF/GOT/MMX/VBY; all trunk routes for SK, TF and DY.
(Meanwhile, for context, Norwegian reported 2023 results this week: EBIT 2.23 billion NOK (212 million USD) margin of 9%; about to pay out dividend of 50 million USD its shareholders. I don’t believe FR moaning about taxes and fees when other airlines are doing just fine.) FR were welcomed in Sweden, but without guaranteed connections in ARN they would have struggled to survive on just P2P. Report (in Swedish) about the cancellations: https://www.tn.se/naringsliv/35560/s...sta-flygbolag/ Norwegian’s results: https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/611110 |
Originally Posted by ara01jbb
(Post 11599137)
Ryanair are abandoning all domestic routes within Sweden, blaming taxes, fees blah blah blah. Affects ARN - LLA/SKF/GOT/MMX/VBY; all trunk routes for SK, TF and DY.
(Meanwhile, for context, Norwegian reported 2023 results this week: EBIT 2.23 billion NOK (212 million USD) margin of 9%; about to pay out dividend of 50 million USD its shareholders. I don’t believe FR moaning about taxes and fees when other airlines are doing just fine.) FR were welcomed in Sweden, but without guaranteed connections in ARN they would have struggled to survive on just P2P. Report (in Swedish) about the cancellations: https://www.tn.se/naringsliv/35560/s...sta-flygbolag/ Norwegian’s results: https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/611110 The truth is Ryanair struggles massively on domestic services. I think the only real exception is Italy, and also Spain (which are both very different types of market compared to Northern European domestic). Same for Wizz Air actually. |
Originally Posted by ara01jbb
(Post 11599137)
Ryanair are abandoning all domestic routes within Sweden, blaming taxes, fees blah blah blah. Affects ARN - LLA/SKF/GOT/MMX/VBY; all trunk routes for SK, TF and DY.
(Meanwhile, for context, Norwegian reported 2023 results this week: EBIT 2.23 billion NOK (212 million USD) margin of 9%; about to pay out dividend of 50 million USD its shareholders. I don’t believe FR moaning about taxes and fees when other airlines are doing just fine.) FR were welcomed in Sweden, but without guaranteed connections in ARN they would have struggled to survive on just P2P. Report (in Swedish) about the cancellations: https://www.tn.se/naringsliv/35560/s...sta-flygbolag/ Norwegian’s results: https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/611110 |
Yes, but Ryanair are profitable
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Originally Posted by ara01jbb
(Post 11599137)
Ryanair are abandoning all domestic routes within Sweden, blaming taxes, fees blah blah blah. Affects ARN - LLA/SKF/GOT/MMX/VBY; all trunk routes for SK, TF and DY.
(Meanwhile, for context, Norwegian reported 2023 results this week: EBIT 2.23 billion NOK (212 million USD) margin of 9%; about to pay out dividend of 50 million USD its shareholders. I don’t believe FR moaning about taxes and fees when other airlines are doing just fine.) FR were welcomed in Sweden, but without guaranteed connections in ARN they would have struggled to survive on just P2P. Report (in Swedish) about the cancellations: https://www.tn.se/naringsliv/35560/s...sta-flygbolag/ Norwegian’s results: https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/611110 |
42 aircraft will be based in Poland this summer
https://corporate.ryanair.com/inform...sce/?market=pl Malaga will get 3 more aircraft - 16 in total https://corporate.ryanair.com/spanis...aga/?market=es Tenerife will be doubled to 4 aircraft https://corporate.ryanair.com/spanis...ife/?market=es 10 aircraft for Budapest https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...est/?market=hu 5th aircraft for Catania https://corporate.ryanair.com/novita...nia/?market=it |
And now On The Beach
From Travelmole:
https://www.travelmole.com/news/ryan...hvby5jby51aw== It seems to me that Ryanair is trying to regularise its relationships with OTAs to increase business, and minimise the inconvenience/cost of unregulated access to bookings. Sounds like a good strategy. |
Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 11604886)
From Travelmole:
https://www.travelmole.com/news/ryan...hvby5jby51aw== It seems to me that Ryanair is trying to regularise its relationships with OTAs to increase business, and minimise the inconvenience/cost of unregulated access to bookings. Sounds like a good strategy. |
Fortune magazine: |
As much as I do not like, nor do I choose to fly on Ryanair, I do think the CEO MoL has every right to slam Boeing.
He is one is their biggest customers (although at the end of the day he maybe not completely loyal) and his airline has been seriously affected, first by the 2019 737 MAX Groundings and then huge delays in new aircraft, orders not delivered on time (or at all) over the past few years, and now with more delays yet to come. That in itself could cripple many companies, but MoL is a very clever man and will use this in his favour of course. Ryanair ordered (on 9 May 2023) 300 new Boeing 737-MAX-10 aircraft (150 firm with 150 options) for delivery between 2027 to 2033. That type has not even yet been certificated, nor any production models built. If the M-10 does not get delivered on time, or get the same 737 Pilot type rating, and/or does not even come to fruition (worst case) then again MoL's Contract no doubt gives him exclusive clauses for compensation. He (MoL) also just announced to the Travel Industry that if any U.S. airline customers refuse to take delivery of 737 MAX 10 aircraft, then Ryanair would take them. United Airlines has ordered 277 MAX 10 jets with options for another 200, and said last week the airline's new fleet plan does not include the model, which had already been mired in regulatory and delivery delays before the Alaska Airlines incident. "We (MoL CEO Ryanair) have told Boeing that if some of these American airlines don't want to take the MAX 10 aircraft, Ryanair will take those aircraft," He described the MAX 10 as "transformational" and said Boeing would always make great aircraft "but quality does need to be improved." "If Scott Kirby (CEO United Airlines) doesn't want to take his MAX 10s, then we'll very happily take them at the right price" . Asked if Ryanair was nervous about its huge reliance on the Boeing MAX or was looking at ways to diversify, they said: "No, the MAX is a great aircraft." But said "if something were to happen", Ryanair would have the option of not selling its older 737s. TUI Airways UK also have a dilemma over its large 737M-10 order that was supposed to have been in service from 2021 to replace the 757's, and they (TUI) seemingly have no game plan should the -10 faces further delays, or does not come to fruition at all. For this summer TUI are again relying on a huge and increasing amount of ACMI/3rd Party aircraft leases at many of it's UK and Eire bases. |
I think United said they are looking at contingency plans for in case the MAX-10 doesn't turn up, rather than they are out of their plans completely.
What's the current position on the MAX-10 certification? |
It’s only a matter of time before OLeary tests the water with Airbus. He is spot on, Boeing are a complete sh1t show and there is only so long that airlines can continue to be let down on future order books whilst also putting their staff at risk and the balance sheet struggling.
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And how does Airbus produce the number of aircraft that Ryanair would need?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11605388)
And how does Airbus produce the number of aircraft that Ryanair would need?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11605380)
I think United said they are looking at contingency plans for in case the MAX-10 doesn't turn up, rather than they are out of their plans completely.
What's the current position on the MAX-10 certification? The Certification for the Type is still mired with Boeing seeking (pleading) in yet again asking for extending exemptions, and submitting further cockpit redesigns, confirming aircraft stability, and of course for the coveted 737 Cockpit Pilot type rating commonality. There seems no end date. (That expired at the end of last year). As for Ryanair changing tack in supplier --- They are extremely (as we all know) influential. I'll leave it there. As for the other latest news that Ryanair fares will rise by up to 10% this summer as MoL blames the Boeing delivery delays, I feel that will not impact their Sales too much. |
Originally Posted by SKOJB
(Post 11605390)
Good question for which I don’t have an answer, just my personal opinion that I think RYR at some point soon will try out the NEO
Or, if the 737M-10 fails, MoL will just fall back on the existing 737M8-200 type of which he still has a huge back order book. He would be placed for Ryanair's M-10 orders to be changed to the M8-200, and with that he would receive huge contractual compensation and the new airfarmes at bargain/reduced prices. We've been there before. The only caveat and dilemma he is then faced with would see a negative on Ryanair's growth and expansion with reduced seat costs if flying with the M-10. The smaller 8-200 seats 197 pax, whereas the M-10 will seat 228. |
Of course Ryanair are gathering info on operating the A320 through their subsidiary Lauda Air.
If Ryanair wanted to add A320s, Airbus would ramp up production, something currently closed to Boeing due to FAA restrictions. |
Some more announcements for the summer:
3rd aircraft for Kaunas https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...aunas-for-s24/ 16th for Palma https://corporate.ryanair.com/spanis...o24/?market=es 11th for Krakow https://corporate.ryanair.com/inform...w-dla-krakowa/ |
Originally Posted by LGS6753
(Post 11605649)
Of course Ryanair are gathering info on operating the A320 through their subsidiary Lauda Air.
If Ryanair wanted to add A320s, Airbus would ramp up production, something currently closed to Boeing due to FAA restrictions. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/28/u...g-737-max.html If they don't fix things quick the M-10 could be on serious hold for quite a while. If Airbus could get supply chains to upscale again then could additional production lines be added in US to accommodate United and others to free up Hamburg & Toulouse for a sizable Ryanair order and what sort of lead times would this involve? The M-8200 is just a stepping stone, Ok big one, to the M-10. As slots become more scarce in Europe, the 321 will be king with the best cost/pax, those extra 30 seats will sell at the highest price. |
Tel Aviv suspended - again.
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/ryanai...osts-row-45015 |
New route
From 3rd June (1pw) Brussels-CRL/Ponta Delgada |
Another distribution agreement:
https://www.travelmole.com/news/ryan...hvby5jby51aw== |
Anyone know what’s up with GRUKB? Has had a fault every other day for the last week.
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Anyone have a rough idea of when the winter sale goes ahead?
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Originally Posted by Mcvicker03
(Post 11622735)
Anyone have a rough idea of when the winter sale goes ahead?
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Lauda Europe future
Apologies if this has been covered previously, but it is being reported elsewhere that Ryanair are now seeking to increase Lauda's fleet to 50 aircraft, as opposed to replacing the existing 27 Airbus A320s with 737s. Reasoning for this, according to MOL, would be cost savings through not needing to retrain existing Airbus crew to the Boeing fleet. Options currently being looked at include:
Source: https://simpleflying.com/ryanair-ceo...mily-aircraft/ |
I would love to see Lauda take on neo's, and I can see FR group making an order for A321's for delivery post-2030 and I think that, very similarly to Jet2, we will see subsequent follow up orders take place and an eventual large fleet of Lauda A321's operating for FR on the continent.
I have no doubts that the other FR group airlines will stick with the 737 MAX, especially the -10's, but I do think we will see Lauda become a larger cog in the Ryanair machine, and I woudn't be surprised to see Ryanair's larger bases especially in southern Europe and the Spanish Islands move over to Lauda bases if they do take on A321neo's. The CASM and lifting power that the A21N could offer on trunk routes like STN/DUB/MAN-PMI/TFS/ALC would be irresistible. I also don't think it's outside the realms of possibility to see A21N's arrive on property in large numbers even before the MAX 10's arrive. I say A321neo throughout as I can't see them ordering A320's unless the price is significantly reduced. By seat cost, the A21N wins hands down. |
Changed a flight last night on the app, no fare difference, only the standard €45 flight change fee...however, my initial seat that I paid for wasn't available, so I opted to purchase another seat (although cheaper at €3), so the total cost came to €48.
Paid with my Revolut card, received the new confirmation email also stating €48, however, my Revolut account was debited €52...there were no fees to pay with this card type (Visa) according to the email confirmation...am I missing something or do Ryanair owe me €4? It seems even if you change the currency in the app during the payment process (to sterling), you are still charged in Euro's (in this specific case, as the flight originates in France, so therefore the local currency). Or is it because the app detects my location and charges me in the currency of the country I am currently at? |
Originally Posted by MANFAN
(Post 11637557)
Changed a flight last night on the app, no fare difference, only the standard €45 flight change fee...however, my initial seat that I paid for wasn't available, so I opted to purchase another seat (although cheaper at €3), so the total cost came to €48.
Paid with my Revolut card, received the new confirmation email also stating €48, however, my Revolut account was debited €52...there were no fees to pay with this card type (Visa) according to the email confirmation...am I missing something or do Ryanair owe me €4? It seems even if you change the currency in the app during the payment process (to sterling), you are still charged in Euro's (in this specific case, as the flight originates in France, so therefore the local currency). Or is it because the app detects my location and charges me in the currency of the country I am currently at? As for the price discrepancy can’t you question it with Revolut? |
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