Originally Posted by RW20
(Post 11638707)
It's always been a problem with Rivet Joint,if you have a view different to his then the personal insults follow.
Lets not be carried away with the Caen announcement, any new route from SOU is good news,but the list of French destinations that had been quoted that Easy might go for is pie in the sky. SOU needs new Sun routes and increased frequency for a sustained future,competition is tough with Jet 2 down the road starting ,it seems Easy is the only airline at present that is committing in a limited way to provide some sun routes,2025 is going to be the tell-tell year for the airport. |
Having previously listed the former French destinations previously flown from SOU I thought that I would add all of the other destinations that were previously operated from SOU.
I previously listed these destinations in a post from a couple of years ago. AUSTRIA 🇦🇹 Innsbruck Salzburg BELGIUM 🇧🇪 Antwerp Brussels BULGARIA 🇧🇬 Varna CROATIA 🇭🇷 Dubrovnik Split CZECHIA 🇨🇿 Prague GERMANY 🇩🇪 Berlin Dusseldorf Frankfurt Hamburg via Antwerp Hannover Munich Paderborn GREECE 🇬🇷 Mykonos Skiathos IRELAND 🇮🇪 Cork Galway ITALY 🇮🇹 Alghero Milan Bergamo Milan Malpensa Verona MALTA 🇲🇹 Malta International NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱 Rotterdam SPAIN 🇪🇸 Barcelona Ibiza Lleida Mahon Murcia Tenerife SWITZERLAND 🇨🇭 Bern Zurich UNITED KINGDOM 🇬🇧 Birmingham Bristol Cardiff East Midlands Exeter Gibraltar Humberside Inverness Isle of Man Leeds London Stansted Liverpool Newquay Norwich Plymouth St Mary's Teesside Current destinations flown from SOU. FRANCE 🇫🇷 Bergerac Caen Chambéry Paris CDG IRELAND 🇮🇪 Dublin NETHERLANDS 🇳🇱 Amsterdam PORTUGAL 🇵🇹 Faro SPAIN 🇪🇸 Alicante Malaga Palma SWITZERLAND 🇨🇭 Geneva UNITED KINGDOM including the Channel Islands 🇬🇧 Aberdeen via Newcastle Alderney 🇬🇬 Belfast City Belfast International Edinburgh Glasgow Guernsey 🇬🇬 Jersey 🇯🇪 Newcastle Stornoway via Glasgow (edit) I'm sure many reading this will be fully aware of the current destinations flown from Southampton but I wanted to add them to give a better comparison to the previous ones. |
Not forgetting Stornoway via GLA
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11638742)
How many of the airlines that operated the long list still exist?
Aurigny British Airways Eastern Airways Although obviously the majority of those former French 🇫🇷 destinations were previously operated by Flybe. |
Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 11638791)
Not forgetting Stornoway via GLA
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
(Post 11638789)
UNITED KINGDOM 🇬🇧 Aberdeen via Newcastle Alderney Belfast City Belfast International Edinburgh Glasgow Guernsey Jersey Newcastle |
Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
(Post 11638800)
I hate to do this and maybe it is time for me to get a life but can I point out that the Channel Islands are not part of the UK.
Edit..regarding my previous post. I have added flags attached to the destinations in the Channel Islands. |
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
(Post 11638802)
I worked for British Channel Island Ferries for eight years, and I am fully aware of that fact. But for arguments sake, it was easier to include them under the United Kingdom. The same applies to the Isle of Man which I also listed under the United Kingdom banner.
Edit..regarding my previous post. I have added flags attached to the destinations in the Channel Islands. |
I think Turkey is operational out of range even with the extension ,however I think SOU management need to focus on Corfu,MaltaGenoa as they are not hugely developed from BOH. As stated before not being able to base A/C at SOU due restrictions is always going to hold back the airports development.
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
(Post 11638805)
I appreciate your efforts. I promise not to be such an a-hole for a couple of days at least.
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Originally Posted by RW20
(Post 11638807)
I think Turkey is operational out of range even with the extension ,however I think SOU management need to focus on Corfu,MaltaGenoa as they are not hugely developed from BOH. As stated before not being able to base A/C at SOU due restrictions is always going to hold back the airports development.
That's a huge understatement as it's included in almost 90% of your posts. Genoa is a great city indeed, but with British Airways, EasyJet, and Vueling ceasing flights from London to the Italian city over the last couple of years, I certainly can't see it being offered from Southampton. Corfu and Malta, I'm in total agreement as both destinations are within reach of SOU. Any discussions regarding destinations in Turkey 🇹🇷 should be instantly closed down due to the fact that the country is way beyond the operational limits of SOU. |
Nice to see Caen added.
Daft commnet by the new Ops bloke re ''bigger planes'' LOL. The majority of those former French leisure and ''second homer'' destinations as mostly previously operated by Flybe, were seasonal (Summer only) In the Winter season some Ski resort airports are very popular as we currently see with Lyons and Chambery, and to nearby GVA. Grenoble is another one. Other routes notably missed are Verona WEDS and SUN (Summer) Flybe flew it twice weekly and Inghams Lakes and Mountains Holidays filled the planes. Corfu (and Malta) could work if flown on a W pattern - say BRS-CFU-SOU-CFU-BRS, plus both Aegean, Sky Express and KM Malta Airlines fly a number of summer charter flights (with A320) Skiathos and Mykonos were both a missed opportunity; Flybe's JSI charterer were a nightmare, and BAs JMK began in the throes and woes of the Pandemic. Had they been properly marketed and the routes handled far better then they would have been winners. If TUI Holidays had some guts and push then they could offer way more from SOU than just 2 flights a week to Majorca. Any TUI expansion at SOU would not IMHO, impact their BOH expansion and could well set them apart from Jet2's start up at BOH by offering more holidays from 2 local airports. Trouble is, and here's the thing, (which applies to both SOU and BOH) apart from winter flights to the Canaries and weekend SKI flights then the rest is all summer only. |
because that's when the good people of the Southampton/Bournemouth area want to fly?
The whole area is (relatively) well off financially - but it's very much leisure based, and Euro-centred |
For all those who have said the 737-800 can’t operate from SOU, an Enter Air 737-800 operated in and out effortless today. Albeit on a short hop.
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
(Post 11639400)
For all those who have said the 737-800 can’t operate from SOU, an Enter Air 737-800 operated in and out effortless today. Albeit on a short hop.
Enter air have also flown into Gibraltar 🇬🇮 but with a limited load a sports team GIBRALTAR cannot accommodate regular loaded 737 800 operations The old classic versions could though no problem |
'short hop' is a bit of an under-statement lol
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Regarding the Enter Air Boeing 737-800 that arrived at SOU today.
It arrived from Brussels, and after a couple of hours on the ground, it later departed for Brize Norton. Does anyone have any other information regarding these flights? This morning, Saturday, 20 April 2024, there was an EasyJet A319, EasyJet A320 plus the Enter Air Boeing 737-800 on the ground at the same time. Hopefully someone took a photo of that. |
As always, Sotonsean, an interesting post, but in the interests of objectivity I'll point out that comparing the destinations that have ever been served from an airport with the destinations served at one moment in time (i.e now) is probably always going to make things look bad now - the equivalent lists for Heathrow would probably show something similar. I agree, though, that SOU has taken a hit in a way many UK airports haven't.
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I’m hearing a 3 aircraft base from March/April 2025 is on the cards. Mutterings in the crew room.
It apparently includes night stopping for the SOU based crew at AMS, MAN and BCN. There wouldn’t be overnighting aircraft in SOU. |
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
(Post 11639488)
Regarding the Enter Air Boeing 737-800 that arrived at SOU today.
Hopefully someone took a photo of that. https://i.postimg.cc/kGhznSjc/Enter-air.jpg So today I called into SOU twice via train. After taking out a mortgage for the fare lets just say SOU with never benefit from London passengers using the airport as an alternative unless they are wealthy and don't mind a long train journey. https://i.postimg.cc/MHBDyn06/Sou1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/RV8ZqGXx/IMG-2770.jpg I watched the easyjet depart using just half the runway, once it disappeared into the blue yonder the only sounds came from birdsong from the car park roof. As for the terminal, it is a delight and reminds me of Inverness. https://i.postimg.cc/8z7CwLJm/South-3.jpg Just 14 check-in desks plus 3 self service from Easyjet. https://i.postimg.cc/nz2ZnL9L/South-4.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/rpqPMN1S/South-5.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/L6dHphXm/IMG-2773.jpg So plenty of space with few passengers. Not what Southampton fan boys want to hear but from a passengers point of view it doesn't get much better than this. 10/10 for me. Finally, I am sure the last time I called into the airport, part of the first floor was land side. This would be 30 plus years ago. |
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