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Sharklet_321 21st Apr 2024 14:47

Oh dear :D I realise the error I made - 1m passengers indeed, not 2m

DC3 Dave 21st Apr 2024 14:53


Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 (Post 11640045)
Oh dear :D I realise the error I made - 1m passengers indeed, not 2m

Still one almighty boost.

SKOJB 21st Apr 2024 15:02


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11640052)
Still one almighty boost.

Indeed and importantly the airport would very soon reach break even of 1.2m. However in my opinion at least one, if not two aircraft would initially be the A319.

Asturias56 21st Apr 2024 15:10

" Three fully utilised SOU based aircraft could be around 2m passengers a year which catapults the airport into major regional status if this was to come to pass."

the trick is the phrase "fully utilised" - that's a very big step up in available seats.

SKOJB 21st Apr 2024 15:29


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11640067)
" Three fully utilised SOU based aircraft could be around 2m passengers a year which catapults the airport into major regional status if this was to come to pass."

the trick is the phrase "fully utilised" - that's a very big step up in available seats.

maximising aircraft utilisation would surely come from the addition of domestic departures to NCL, EDI and MAN, along with AMS and CDG. The KLM and Loganair services could be significantly impacted.

Sotonsean 21st Apr 2024 16:42


Originally Posted by ShedDriver (Post 11640002)
Search for airside ops manager Jeremy Edmunds on LinkedIn, he's posted three great pictures of the aircraft lined up. Unfortunately I can't post them here yet due to insufficient posts.

Thanks for the reply and the link, much appreciated.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6b7623ad8.jpeg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bb13e7069.jpeg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f2c5d7fc2.jpeg

Excellent photos, gives a great impression of what the future may look like at SOU.

TCAS FAN 21st Apr 2024 18:33


Originally Posted by Sotonsean (Post 11640111)
Thanks for the reply and the link, much appreciated.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6b7623ad8.jpeg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bb13e7069.jpeg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f2c5d7fc2.jpeg

Excellent photos, gives a great impression of what the future may look like at SOU.

Hopefully even better than this,only 3 of 4 Stands occupied.

speedrestriction 21st Apr 2024 21:46


Originally Posted by SKOJB (Post 11639894)
There was a poster on the airport FB group a few weeks ago suggesting that an easyjet base was to be announced and they had heard this from crew at LGW who were being transferred down to SOU, we shall see!

What they were suggesting is untrue. The crew would find out at the same time as the public if that were to be the case.

Asturias56 22nd Apr 2024 07:56

"maximising aircraft utilisation would surely come from the addition of domestic departures to NCL, EDI and MAN, along with AMS and CDG. The KLM and Loganair services could be significantly
impacted."

Agreed - Loganair won't go head to head with EasyJet

Ascupart 22nd Apr 2024 07:58


Originally Posted by SKOJB (Post 11639894)
There was a poster on the airport FB group a few weeks ago suggesting that an easyjet base was to be announced and they had heard this from crew at LGW who were being transferred down to SOU, we shall see!

There was a recent article in the Daily Echo (sponsored by the airport) entitled "Southampton Airport could be set for flights to Greece, Italy, Malta" - I wonder if this was teasing a new EasyJet base?

willy wombat 22nd Apr 2024 09:08

While I admire the optimism and enthusiasm of many of the posters, I wouldn’t read anything at all into crew room rumours.

SWBKCB 22nd Apr 2024 09:33

Or airport puff pieces. What matters is what EZY make this summer. Nothing will be finalised yet for next year.

stewyb 22nd Apr 2024 10:06

Whilst never say never of course to any future basing and that is surely the airports end goal, it’s more likely in the short term that we will see some added easyJet routes for W23/24 (CDG, MAN) and S25 (AGP, BCN, BOD, NCE) as examples from away bases. Would imagine easyJet will build up to around a dozen away based routes just as they did with BHX before potentially committing further. Also wouldn’t be surprised to see EZY GLA go double daily.

RW20 22nd Apr 2024 14:10


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 11640474)
Whilst never say never of course to any future basing and that is surely the airports end goal, it’s more likely in the short term that we will see some added easyJet routes for W23/24 (CDG, MAN) and S25 (AGP, BCN, BOD, NCE) as examples from away bases. Would imagine easyJet will build up to around a dozen away based routes just as they did with BHX before potentially committing further. Also wouldn’t be surprised to see EZY GLA go double daily.

Stewyb ,No one can knock your optimistic view for the airport ,but Easy need to see the loads for the S24 from SOU (hopefully good) to see if there is a long term future at the airport. With the rapidly expanding BOH operation I'm sure there is room for maneuvering with destinations within SOU operational capabilities.
Its critical that SOU management get on the case and promote the airport more.


stewyb 22nd Apr 2024 14:59


Originally Posted by RW20 (Post 11640638)
Stewyb ,No one can knock your optimistic view for the airport ,but Easy need to see the loads for the S24 from SOU (hopefully good) to see if there is a long term future at the airport. With the rapidly expanding BOH operation I'm sure there is room for maneuvering with destinations within SOU operational capabilities.
It’s critical that SOU management get on the case and promote the airport more.

Of course the future will depend on how S24 pans out but with several easyJet routes now in place, my simple take is there must already be an appetite from both sides to expand operations so long as certain measures are being met. Something surely has to stick at some point and let’s hope this is the case with the airport enticing EZY because alternative options begin to look increasingly thin. Cautiously optimistic that’s me:ok:

Skipness One Foxtrot 22nd Apr 2024 15:09


Originally Posted by stewyb (Post 11640474)
Also wouldn’t be surprised to see EZY GLA go double daily.

Some context :
Return seats available per day with various models :
Loganair
5 x Daily J31=190 seats
5 x Daily J41=290 seats
3 x Daily ER4=294 seats

flybe
4 x Daily Q400 = 624 seats

easyJet
Only 2 x Daily A319 = 624 seats

That's a different world IMHO, if they can do this, it's evidence that the future would be much more easyJet and less Loganair.

SouthernAlliance 22nd Apr 2024 15:27

We have heard snippets on here that easyjet GLA is going well with decent loads so a double daily in the future could be an option. The extra daily rotation with a 319 would be the seat equivalent to LM x 3 daily summer timetable

SWBKCB 22nd Apr 2024 15:31


Originally Posted by SouthernAlliance (Post 11640684)
We have heard snippets on here that easyjet GLA is going well with decent loads so a double daily in the future could be an option. The extra daily rotation with a 319 would be the seat equivalent to LM x 3 daily summer timetable

Doubt EZY have an aircraft sitting waiting to put on SOU-GLA, so where would the extra capacity come from, and would it make more money on SOU-GLA than on what it is currently doing? May work in Winter, but year round?

SouthernAlliance 22nd Apr 2024 16:15


Originally Posted by RW20 (Post 11640638)
Stewyb ,No one can knock your optimistic view for the airport ,but Easy need to see the loads for the S24 from SOU (hopefully good) to see if there is a long term future at the airport. With the rapidly expanding BOH operation I'm sure there is room for maneuvering with destinations within SOU operational capabilities.
It’s critical that SOU management get on the case and promote the airport more.

Worth noting with any easyjet operation at BOH, them and their 3 main competitors would be fighting over limited apron space, terminal capacity (of which it will already be very snug), car parking and airport advertising. At SOU easyjet would almost have free rein to use all these exclusively. Could be a deal clincher with minimal operational impact from competing airlines. Of course the right incentives need to be given in the first place to make anything happen

vectisman 24th Apr 2024 10:33

Loganair are to terminate Glasgow to Southampton from 10th May according to @SeanM1997


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