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willy wombat 24th Apr 2024 10:39

Everything after May 10th showing as “sold out” so probably true. I await comments from all those posters who happily proclaimed that there was plenty room for LM and EZY on SOUGLA.

SKOJB 24th Apr 2024 10:47


Originally Posted by willy wombat (Post 11641941)
Everything after May 10th showing as “sold out” so probably true. I await comments from all those posters who happily proclaimed that there was plenty room for LM and EZY on SOUGLA.

Hardly surprising with the seat pricing LM charged and easyJet has clearly taken the market share on this route in a short space of time

SWBKCB 24th Apr 2024 10:51

Hopefully EZY stick around

The Nutts Mutts 24th Apr 2024 10:55

So that's one flight per day compared to three or four. Terrible for connectivity- so many business travellers used those Loganair SOU-GLA flights (including myself).
I'm seeing this as a blow for SOU and the region. That's not me being anti-SOU or negative, but as someone who lives locally and travels a lot I'll really miss the option of business-friendly flights from SOU to GLA and I think others will too.

cavokblues 24th Apr 2024 11:10

I presume Easy will make the daily flight year round? Currently from 1st November it drops to 2 x per week.

SKOJB 24th Apr 2024 11:14


Originally Posted by cavokblues (Post 11641966)
I presume Easy will make the daily flight year round? Currently from 1st November it drops to 2 x per week.

think easyjet has just copied over last winters schedule to next winter. Predict this to change and continue a daily service

Albert Hall 24th Apr 2024 11:15

It gets worse this winter unless easyJet react to this - they have only two weekly services on sale on Thu & Sat for GLA-SOU.

How long after this before easyJet open up on EDI-SOU as well though, and then that's Loganair gone from SOU completely? If you see that it's this "easy" to dislodge them, why would you not keep on going?

willy wombat 24th Apr 2024 11:17

It will largely depend on what little gaps in the GLA fleet’s program EZY need to fill. GLASOU will never be a core route for EZY.

SKOJB 24th Apr 2024 11:20


Originally Posted by willy wombat (Post 11641971)
It will largely depend on what little gaps in the GLA fleet’s program EZY need to fill. GLASOU will never be a core route for EZY.

If they are filling planes then why stop?

willy wombat 24th Apr 2024 11:26


Originally Posted by SKOJB (Post 11440390)
Surely it’s good news for SOU. Loganair offer high frequency high fares that suit the business person who wishes to travel there and back in a day and their employers are picking up the air fare. 49 seats on a E145 is probably 80% filled by business users as the leisure traveller is just unwilling to pay the huge ticket costs. EZY with its limited frequencies will be used primarily by friends and family being flexible with dates and times, thus both airlines have their niche and will operate side by side. My thoughts although maybe wrong!

Not so much maybe wrong as definitely wrong.

Albert Hall 24th Apr 2024 11:27

If you look at what they do on GLA/BHX in the winter, it's absolutely dire - nothing that could be classed as a workable schedule for business travel or commuters. If SOU/GLA ends up the same in the long run then it will just switch off a load of business travel from SOU.

willy wombat 24th Apr 2024 11:29


Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot (Post 11440470)
Nope, Loganair also needs the leisure market and must offer higher fares to make multiple daily frequencies work on a smaller aircraft. They will likely lose enough volume to easyJet to tip the operation into the red and that will be the end of that. This isn't a market that's about to explode in volume IMHO.

Someone actually knew what he/she was talking about.

SWBKCB 24th Apr 2024 11:43


Originally Posted by SKOJB (Post 11641975)
If they are filling planes then why stop?

Are they filling planes, and at what price? Maybe a chance for them to stick their prices up? :E

RW20 24th Apr 2024 12:44


Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts (Post 11641954)
So that's one flight per day compared to three or four. Terrible for connectivity- so many business travellers used those Loganair SOU-GLA flights (including myself).
I'm seeing this as a blow for SOU and the region. That's not me being anti-SOU or negative, but as someone who lives locally and travels a lot I'll really miss the option of business-friendly flights from SOU to GLA and I think others will too.

Its a blow that was predicted ,one flight a day from Easy will not cut it with business travellers . What happens if Easy pull out?SOU have bent over backwards to attract Easy in ,Its time for more Easy routes to prove it was right.

GayFriendly 24th Apr 2024 13:46

I think the days of multi times daily regional flying in the UK are mostly over. Like SOU, BHX once boasted multiple daily, business friendly frequencies with BE: 8 a day to GLA, EDI, twice daily MXP, BER, 4 times daily to DUS, daily LYS.....these ex BE routes are now all served (except DUS) by EZY but at very much reduced frequency, and in the case if GLA and EDI, sometimes just a flight a day! It's tough to fill an A320 on a daily basis on such routes.

DUS is operated by EW at twice daily, the frequency they operated alongside BE - from 6 flights a day Mon-Fri to 2 - another good example of an Airbus operator at BHX matching frequency to demand

If EZY do come to SOU with a base, you will for sure get new routes but at a 2 or 3 times weekly service. It's either that or no service at all

The big difference with BHX of course is that we have Jet2, FR and TUI who, with EZY now added into the mix, provide a decent frequency of service combined between them on key routes. SOU won't have this with just EZY and am sure nobody wants the all eggs in one basket scenario at SOU again.....but without EZY, what for SOU?

SouthernAlliance 24th Apr 2024 16:19

The airport are certainly ramping up easyJet coverage across their SM platforms, not before time!

VickersVicount 24th Apr 2024 17:21

Wonder if theres an AGS GLA-SOU-EZY love triangle?

LTNman 24th Apr 2024 18:25

What happened at Southend regarding EasyJet domestic services from that airport is a concern despite being regarded as having good loads at the time.

Albert Hall 24th Apr 2024 19:07

It is a huge concern but now the worry expressed by many (and I was amongst them) has materialised, the airport has no choice but to pursue easyJet to the far ends of the earth for growth on Glasgow. And given that they own both airports, they should be placed to really make this happen.

Skipness One Foxtrot 24th Apr 2024 19:15


Originally Posted by willy wombat (Post 11641982)
Someone actually knew what he/she was talking about.

I'd rather have been wrong but all the eggs are goin' in the orange basket who now have SOU by the balls.


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