Unless easyJet has done a deal with another airline yet to be announced, they do not have slots at LHR. They are certainly holding none right now.
And with bases in Palma, Faro, Malaga and Alicante, they could serve Southampton if they wanted to. No W patterns would be needed. It’s exactly the same as the new services at Birmingham where the only remotely complicated routing is that to Corfu. |
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It would appear that we are now down to the final two hurdles, firstly waiting for the S of S to determine if the application is to be called in and secondly EBC to complete a new Section 106 Agreement to lock in the environmental mitigations that the airport offered/council requires.. https://www.eastleigh.gov.uk/plannin...ng-application |
Confident that if the Section 106 is robust and mitigates many of the environmental concerns, it will be passed back to EBC to rubber stamp!
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it looks like a long way to go before any concrete is laid.On a separate note has there been any improvements on take off obstacles on 20 're Marhill copse? |
See posts 419-421, unfortunately a non-event.
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In recent history have any 20 departures taken advantage of the 15 degree starboard slew which was implemented many years ago to mitigate the tree problem?
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"In recent history have any 20 departures taken advantage of the 15 degree starboard slew which was implemented many years ago to mitigate the tree problem?" Just about every departure. The runway 20 Noise Preferential Route (NPR) provides for it. The NPR must be flown by all turbo-jet aircraft and those with a MTOW 5700 KG or greater. The problem was, and may still be, that for some aircraft when calculating take-off weight the height of one or more trees in/adjacent to Marhill Copse was too high/close to the end of the runway to allow for a 15 degree turn to be taken in to account. in order to afford the much better obstacle environment. Once the runway extension is complete (all doubters on this thread please note my positivity) as the start of take-off run will be farther away from the trees it may be sufficient to take full advantage of the 15 degree turn option. |
Seems TUI has cancelled its summer flight program to PMI, still some ‘holidays only’ bookable using BACF schedules
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Where have you got that information from ?
August 7th flights onwards ,which I’m on that flight ,looks like they have just consolidated just to BACF ,as I was originally scheduled on Volotea. |
looking at TUI website, you can no longer book flight only for the whole summer
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oh right I’m on a package holiday ,may be different.
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Loganair have over the last couple of days removed from sale there 3 x Weekly service to IOM
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BA added Chambery and Edinburgh for winter season!
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Fantastic to see a Winter Ski flight come back to Southampton, flight programme as follows:
BA2939 EDI-SOU 20:00-21:30 FRIDAY BA2935 SOU-CMF 07:15-09:55 SATURDAY BA2936 CMF-SOU 10:45-11:25 SATURDAY BA2935 SOU-CMF 07:15-09:55 SUNDAY BA2936 CMF-SOU 10:45-11:25 SUNDAY BA2900 SOU-EDI 12:15-13:40 SUNDAY |
Also a Sat pm slot up for grabs, wonder where to?
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I would personally bet on Alicante or Malaga - can't see them trying Geneva against easyJet. Maybe a small chance of something like Innsbruck/Grenoble/Salzburg/Turin if there is demand for it and a tour operator interested?
Also, I thought the airport was open from 7:30am on Sunday's? They might struggle to make that 7:15am departure... |
If its only one flight per week should be possible if the 10 out of hours provision per month is still in place within the current Section 106 agreement.
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The cuts haven't stopped yet, but overall at least traffic is starting to build up again. The Dublin and Manchester and accompanying base start dates for Blue Islands have been delayed for what I believe is the 5th time, and are now due to start exactly a year after they were originally planned to! I've left the BA flights other than Faro off as they are likely highly subject to change depending on where countries fall on the Govt's colour lottery every 3 weeks... As it stands every other destination has a start date beyond 19th June.
As of today Southampton has the following operating: Aurigny Guernsey - 5 weekly AT7 (Mon-Fri) Blue Islands Jersey - 9 weekly AT7 (2x Mon and Fri) Eastern Belfast City - 4 weekly AT7 Manchester - 4 weekly AT7 Loganair Edinburgh - 9 weekly ER4 (Thurs-Mon 2x except 1x on Sat) Glasgow - 8 weekly ER4 (Thurs-Mon 2x except 1x on Sat and Sun) Newcastle - 5 weekly ER4 (Thurs-Mon) 24/05 Eastern start Gibraltar - 2 weekly E70 (changes to E90 early June) 29/05 BA start Faro - 2 weekly E90 31/05 Aurigny increase Guernsey to 7 weekly Eastern increase Belfast City to 5 weekly Eastern increase Manchester to 5 weekly Loganair increase Edinburgh to 11 weekly Loganair increase Glasgow to 11 weekly Loganair increase Newcastle to 9 weekly 06/06 Loganair increase Newcastle to 10 weekly 18/06 Eastern resume Teesside - 5 weekly J41 21/06 Blue Islands increase Jersey to 14 weekly (there are some extra flights prior to this on a few dates from 28/05, but no consistent schedule increase) Eastern resume Leeds Bradford - 5 weekly J41 Loganair increase Edinburgh to 13 weekly Loganair increase Glasgow to 13 weekly Loganair increase Newcastle to 13 weekly 25/06 Eastern start Dublin - 4 weekly AT7 28/06 Eastern increase Belfast City to 6 weekly KLM resume Amsterdam - 7 weekly E75 01/07 Aurigny resume Alderney - 14 weekly D28 Aurigny increase Guernsey to 14 weekly Blue Islands resume Guernsey - 12 weekly AT7 05/07 Eastern increase Manchester to 11 weekly Loganair increase Newcastle to 16 weekly 22/07 Eastern start Rennes - 3 weekly AT7 23/07 Eastern start Nantes - 3 weekly AT7 26/07 Loganair increase Edinburgh to 25 weekly Loganair increase Glasgow to 24 weekly Loganair increase Newcastle to 18 weekly 02/08 Blue Islands increase Jersey to 20 weekly 31/08 Blue Islands start Dublin - 7 weekly AT7 Blue Islands start Manchester - 19 weekly AT7 03/09 Blue Islands increase Jersey to 23 weekly 06/09 Eastern increase Belfast City to 11 weekly Eastern increase Leeds Bradford to 10 weekly |
Thanks for such a comprehensive update Adfly, I'm always appreciative of your input on this thread.
There's been some noise on Twitter and some chat on the Cardiff thread that Eastern might be about to announce a Jersey route from SOU. If that happens I'm assuming it'll be something to do with their Aurigny codeshare and potentially a way to encourage through traffic from their other SOU routes. |
Isn’t there an Aberdeen to Soton route?
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Not a direct one at the moment, but you can fly ABZ-NCL-SOU with Loganair (if I remember correctly you can stay on the aircraft at NCL).
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BA commence operations tomorrow. Why is there one flight departing to Faro yet two arriving? Thanks
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The aircraft operates:
Saturday BA8481 LCY 07:45 FAO 10:50 BA2930 FAO 11:35 SOU 14:20 BA2927 SOU 15:10 FAO 18:10 BA2928 FAO 19:00 SOU 21:45 Sunday BA2927 SOU 07:40 FAO 10:40 BA8480 FAO 11:25 LCY 14:15 G-LCYM is currently planned to operate. |
BAladdy - Do you have the first SOU-JMK-SOU dates yet please?
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Believe it is currently planned to start from SOU on 20th June.
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Does anyone have any information on the outbound loads on the recently started GIB flights?
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29, 52, 34
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Many thanks.
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BHX are better than those
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With these low figures it won't be long before this route disappears.
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No it won’t I am afraid
Quite reasonable figures for the start of the season and a new route |
Considering 52 pax makes a 68% load factor on the E170, and having been one of those 52 I know there were in fact 63 booked, an even better 83% load factor, the route is doing remarkably well and with £75+ fares, I wouldn't be too worried about the future of this route.
Eastern's new buy on board will most likely be making a valuable contribution as well, from what I saw everyone bought something and between 2 of us we spent £42 on the flight in booze and food. If that's representative of the average holidaymaker I think Eastern have made a good little move with these routes. Even the inaugural GIB-BHX had 20 onboard and the inaugural BHX-GIB was full. If I was Eastern I'd be very quickly thinking about what other GIB routes could be capitalised on while it's one of the few green list places available. I'd be looking towards BHD, NCL and LBA. |
Going on the fares being charged, BHX-GIB must be selling very well which is no surprise seeing as it's a green list route and was previously served by Monarch who also did well on the route.
Can't find any return flights for less than £200 from BHX going all the way through to end of Sept. I'm sure the route will also do very well from both airports, I have to admit I was sceptical when it was announced but the green list status for Gibraltar couldn't have given Eastern a better start! |
I'm not surprised the SOU-GIB route would do well - it's been a long time coming; but I am surprised that Eastern is making it work. In my opinion this route would be even more popular if it was operated by BA Cityflyer or even easyJet. Eastern doesn't have huge reach and is constrained by budgets they can't spend a fortune on marketing etc etc... If it doesn't end up working for them in particular i'm pretty sure it would be picked up by BA in the future.
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In normal times when the choice of countries to which one can travel is large.... would SOU-GIB really be that popular ? If places like France were open without quarantine, then some of the people travelling to GIB might look elsewhere. If it were possible to fly direct to Malaga, that might remove the need/temptation to use Gibraltar as a backdoor to Spain
We have a highly artificial travel environment right now... it's not realistic to make any kind of predictions about the SOU-GIB route for 2022 |
Well said. I would think the same of some of the UK domestic connections as well. Very much of the now but long term maybe not as much
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That might be based on what they're charging rather than how many seats they've sold though. I cannot imagine that the economics of flying an E170 or 190 would work at £64.99 anyway on a sector like this, so the fact that there aren't any fares of that nature about might reflect that they never put them on sale to start with, not that they've sold out.
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Eastleigh Borough Council have formally issued planning permission for the runway starter strip after the negotiations on the Section 106 agreement between the council and airport were completed. This would appear to indicate that the opposing groups' attempts to have the application called in by the Government have been unsuccessful. Here's hoping that construction work commences soon.
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Thanks for the update. Fingers crossed they get spades in the ground ASAP.
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Hopefully this winter in order to minimise the impact on flights due to the temporary reduction of declared distances during construction, caused by excavations in the current runway strip end the reduction/non availabilty of a RESA at the north end of the runway. With careful planning and execution, including some night work, the impact could be minimal.
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