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RW20 4th Jun 2021 12:56

There is a statement from the Airport MD today that states that the government have not called in the planning application,but this is tempered by him quote "Sadly though, the permission may still be subject to a legal challenge. I would encourage the opposition groups not to seek any further delay to the delivery of the construction phase – and the 265 jobs that go with it – by seeking to challenge the permission. "
How would this challenge be implemented?

TCAS FAN 4th Jun 2021 13:32

Judicial Review? If you have deep pockets to fund it if the final decision doesn't go your way!

Flitefone 9th Jun 2021 18:02

A bit more information on the Section 106 agreement:

Southampton Airport agrees Section 106 Agreement in relation to its approved runway extension | Business South

The basis on which the Council agrees airport activity.


adfly 14th Jun 2021 21:47

BA S22
 
Some good news, BA appear to have some S22 flights on sale from SOU starting from 30/04, currently bookable up to early June. Pretty much identical to the original plan for this year at the moment but it is early days.

Alicante - 1x weekly
Bergerac - 3x weekly
Berlin - 1x weekly
Edinburgh - 1x weekly
Faro - 1x weekly
Florence - 2x weekly
Ibiza - 2x weekly
Limoges - 1x weekly
Malaga - 2x weekly
Mykonos - 1x weekly
Nice - 1x weekly
Palma - 2.5x weekly (2 dep, 3 arr)

EDIT: KLM to Amsterdam is also on sale 2x daily at the same times as before on an E75 for S22

RW20 16th Jun 2021 17:34

legal challenge coming shortly from the campaigners,reported widely!

cavokblues 16th Jun 2021 19:20

Some creative minds writing that press release:

Unemployment is at record levels after the pandemic


Is it? Yesterday's unemployment figures were pretty good all things considering and fell for the fourth month running.

SKOJB 16th Jun 2021 19:52

Delaying tactic only as the outcome will not be any different, waste of time and money but hey this is what they do!

southside bobby 16th Jun 2021 20:05

...& perhaps not if the legal challenge gets caught up in a reformulated/restrictive Government regional airport policy coupled with a tough green agenda coming down the track.

Princess Nut Nut/Attenborough & our future King were all hard at work at the G7.

Rivet Joint 16th Jun 2021 20:43

SKOJB

100%. I think the government is a bit busy at the moment not that these delusional hypocrites would notice. What a world we live in where bullying and nuisance is tolerated so long as it’s wrapped up in a supposed noble cause. The airport was having over 2 million annual passengers not so long ago so a cap of 3 million isn’t much more.

The one thing that I wish the airport would mention more is that during the planning process anyone can lodge an objection or a support. It’s my understanding that the majority were in support of the application which should be the end of the argument. More residents support the extension so how these extremists think they speak for all of us is lunacy. Let’s not forget the planning meeting went on for a few days to hear all their baseless moaning so it’s not like they haven’t had a fair chance to speak all their rubbish. Meanwhile the fifth cruise terminal is in its final stages of completion just next door to the historic flour mill that ABP pulled down and there is a brand new huge cruise ship fresh from the ship yard spewing huge clouds of smoke non stop. Funny how these mentalists don’t have a problem with all that.

TCAS FAN 18th Jun 2021 08:55

RW20

Have just looked at the AXO website, their case for a review and the attempt at crowdfunding. Had considered invoicing them for my valuable time taken to read such drivel!

Rivet Joint 22nd Jun 2021 17:40

KLM back on 28 June.

TCAS FAN 23rd Jun 2021 14:42

Looks if AXO & Co will shortly reach their £10K crowdfunding target to mount the Judicial Review. Apart from the enrichment of their legal team Leigh Day and David Wolfe QC and delay to work starting, doubt it is going to result in anything more. Now a waiting game for all concerned.

RW20 23rd Jun 2021 17:46

TCAS FAN,
It looks like ASK and Co are going to be a serious threat to the Airport plans,they seem to be building up cash and steam with a strong backing.
one things for sure and that is there won't be any work going on this year!

SKOJB 23rd Jun 2021 20:31

With all due respect, you have been wrong in your assumptions in every step of this process to date. It will happen and most likely commence early next year!

TCAS FAN 25th Jun 2021 10:53

RW20

I doubt that £10k is going to go far, have you checked QC's hourly rates? That assumes that he/she is not one of the local NIMBYs or a fellow tree hugger!

stewyb 25th Jun 2021 11:13

Good to see KLM resume on Monday and Aurigny to Alderney on Thursday. BA will hopefully commence IBZ/PMI soon and may look to run MAH as they do at LCY!

Dropoffcharge 25th Jun 2021 14:06

TCAS FAN

The 10k has now been reached and passed, I'm not sure where DW QC sits morally on the whole climate topic? He has helped fight against the 3rd runway at Heathrow so guess this is why AXO have appointed him, the CCC (Climate Change Committee) published there parliament progress report yesterday, which could be bad timing for SOU and there plans, as you say a waiting game, but no doubt a long and drawn out one.

Rivet Joint 25th Jun 2021 18:10

T3 also now using the e190 on the Gibraltar route.

TCAS FAN 28th Jun 2021 12:21

See that the goalposts have moved, AXO & Co now target £25K, with just under half of it raised. Have they worked out that QCs are an expensive playmate?

stewyb 28th Jun 2021 13:21

Likelihood is there’s going to be an expensive bill for them to pay at the end of this process!

Dropoffcharge 28th Jun 2021 13:21

I noticed that as well, how many times will the budget get stretched? I'd say the more times they raise the limit, the more people might loose interest in backing them.

BA318 28th Jun 2021 13:56

Its quite common for these crowdfunding schemes to extend the donation target once they hit one. In anything like this you can never have too much money so they usually extend it with a small explanation of what the next stage would support.

RW20 28th Jun 2021 14:36

It's clear that there will be a substantial delay in the runway extension,and with many covid mutations to come,the question is will this ever happen?
The airport can and will survive ,but the hope of progressing to the next level must be very dubious at least!.

Buster the Bear 28th Jun 2021 22:09

Airport fees increasing, air traffic navigation charges likely to rise and the price of oil heading slowly to $150 a barrel, does not bode well for fares. This may well impact discretionary travel.

SKOJB 30th Jun 2021 11:25

Drove by airport recently and noticed Eastern’s E190 nose in on stand 10. Didn’t think these stands capable of accommodating this size of aircraft, bodes well for BA ops!

dixi188 30th Jun 2021 20:42

Some years ago a FlyBe E195 was parked nose out on stand 10 or 11 and the APU exhaust set fire to the stand number sign. The signs were lowered after that.

Rivet Joint 9th Jul 2021 12:04

BA at SOU are taking their time to adapt to the changing rules. Also not sure why the Spain routes are not being run this year. They would probably be the most popular given BEs long-standing offering. Flights to Spain being done from most the other airports and have been for a while, so cannot point to the rules for that country.

stewyb 9th Jul 2021 12:56

BACF commence PMI and IBZ on 17th July with all remaining routes starting on 07th Aug (according to BA website)

Rivet Joint 9th Jul 2021 19:07

Good spot! Guess that’s not long to wait.

RW20 15th Jul 2021 20:00

BA318

looks like they have reached a level of funding to fully engage a company to sustain a judicial review to stop the expansion
They certainly mean business,and the expansion doesn't look like starting for some time,if not ever?

adfly 17th Jul 2021 10:39

More chopping and changing and cutting as per, but here is an up to date summary. Stars by the stuff that looks like it could just be a placeholder. Govt are proudly placing more nails in the industry coffin by not allowing double vaxxed to return from France without isolation (what is the :mad:ing point of everyone getting vaccinated if this sort of rubbish rubbish is still a thing?)

Southampton to Newquay has also appeared in Eastern's booking engine but is not presently bookable. Probably a fair market for that in the summer - much better than the awful 4-5 hour drive!

As of today Southampton has the following operating:

Aurigny

Alderney - 14 weekly D28
Guernsey - 14 weekly AT7 - Blue Islands aircraft used for some flights

BA Cityflyer

Edinburgh - 1 weekly E90
Ibiza - 2 weekly E90
Palma - 2 weekly E90


Blue Islands

Jersey - 14 weekly AT7

Eastern Airways

Belfast City - 6 weekly AT7
Gibraltar - 2 weekly E90/E70/ER3...
Leeds Bradford - 4 weekly J41

Manchester - 4 weekly AT7

KLM Cityhopper

Amsterdam - 4 weekly E75

Loganair

Edinburgh - 14 weekly ER4
Glasgow - 14 weekly ER4
Newcastle - 14 weekly ER3/ER4


19/07

Eastern start Dublin - 4 weekly AT7

26/07

Loganair increase Edinburgh to 19 weekly
Loganair increase Glasgow to 20 weekly

01/08

* Blue Islands resume Guernsey - 14 weekly *

02/08

Blue Islands increase Jersey to 20 weekly

07/08

BA Cityflyer resume Faro
BA Cityflyer start Alicante, * Bergerac *, Berlin, Florence,* Limoges *, Malaga, Mykonos,* Nice *


31/08

Blue Islands start Dublin - 7 weekly AT7
Blue Islands start Manchester - 19 weekly AT7

01/09

Loganair increase Edinburgh to 24 weekly

Loganair increase Glasgow to 25 weekly

03/09

Blue Islands increase Jersey to 23 weekly

06/09

Eastern increase Belfast City to 11 weekly
Eastern increase Leeds Bradford to 10 weekly
Eastern increase Manchester to 11 weekly
Eastern start Nantes - 3 weekly AT7

Eastern start Rennes - 3 weekly AT7
Loganair increase Newcastle to 18 weekly

Jamesair1 17th Jul 2021 16:00

Thank you for the update of the schedule of operation at SOU.....your efforts are appreciated

Rivet Joint 17th Jul 2021 16:25

Thanks for keeping up these posts, very useful. It looks like KLM are often using the E90 on the route which hopefully is a good sign.

stewyb 19th Jul 2021 14:23

Florence has been put back until S22 and EGC has Tue departure removed

Wycombe 20th Jul 2021 10:43


Southampton to Newquay has also appeared in Eastern's booking engine
Noticed recently (I think sometime last week) that a SOU-LBA flight was operated by a J41 that came from NQY.

Buster the Bear 20th Jul 2021 14:33

Eastern booking engine shows that there are flights on Saturday and Sunday to Newquay, but not bookable yet.

BAladdy 24th Jul 2021 09:31

The launch of BACF flights to Limoges and Nice has been pushed back to S22

stewyb 24th Jul 2021 10:06

No surprise given the ridiculous quarantine rules applied to France. Assume Bergerac remains as many passengers using this service will be 2nd home owners in the Dordogne and 10 day quarantine will not be an issue!

stewyb 31st Jul 2021 10:56

EZY GVA has added an additional early evening departure on Sat (excluding Jan where Sat has been removed altogether) now up to x 4 weekly!

richardwpprn 6th Aug 2021 19:56

G-LCYU is inflight to SOU for a big day tomorrow for BACF.


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