A) It's not a new route, its a returning route |
A brand new route will always get more focus on it and a bigger fanfare than a returning route.
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Wizz have started to load up Summer 2022. So far only difference to this summer seems to be Corfu and Heraklion starting on the 14th and 13th June respectively. Nothing onsale yet though.
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any news on Qatar - Is it well and truly gone or still just ‘suspended’ ?
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Depends who you ask!
Probably be a while until we see them back! Personally I'd be surprised if we saw them back for 2022 and it might also depend on how helpful the Welsh government might be compared to last time especially with the whole climate emergency thing. |
Yes, long-haul travel to the East is not returning in any meaningful form this year.
The biggest markets from CWL were Australia and Thailand. Australia has said they won't reopen to foreigners this year so that's a no. Thailand is planning for a limited restart to tourism from the fourth quarter for vaccinated tourists who will also have to have multiple tests, but that will likely be limited and may be pushed back. Summer 2022 would be the first viable restart date if they ever do restart. |
Surprisingly Aer Lingus are launching Belfast
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Not sure surprise as already launching DUB. Depends on what T3 are at. For customer experience ATR or J41. Would rather ATR and the fares seem much better than what T3 had proposed. Its probably a strong enough market for both but I would have had money on BRS rather than CWL to be honest from BHD
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For those that continue to criticise CWLs marketing team.....here you go...
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...n-and-belfast/ Appears they were just waiting for BHD to be released. Several posts from various different social media channels already circulating too |
There Facebook post has had 26 comments in the 19 minutes it's been up
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A Bristol route would have required frequency to compete with easyJet, Cardiff is less frequency and fits better around the current flying schedule with the need for another based aircraft. Cardiff also unlikely to attract an easyJet or Ryanair.
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Fair points. I tip my hat to you
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PDXCWL45
It appears that they have made these 2 routes summer high season only and as a result have made ACE the route that crosses over (ending June, starting September) - which is strange because ACE, along with all the Canary Islands, is most definitely a year-round route... Maybe one to fill with a 2nd based in the future!? |
caaardiff
A quote from Spencer in this article implies the DUB route will “enable easy connections to North America via Dublin” However, there is currently no option to book a through ticket with EI to any destination in North America. This may be a plan for the future as it was previously, but at the moment the flight times aren’t ideal for most transatlantic links from DUB. I can’t see a demand for self connecting either... |
The issue with connecting flights is having enough aircraft available for morning flights to meet those connections. Given EI regional extensive network into the UK, that probably puts CWL lower down the list with having BRS as an alternative. Using CWL as a leisure only route for now means single daily mid afternoon flights fit in better with the aircraft scheduling. Who knows what will happen once USA flight demand returns.
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So good news and bad news for TUI Summer 2022.
Naples is back onsale 1 weekly on Mondays no doubt filling the vacant slot left by the dropping of Sharm el Sheikh. Unfortunately it looks like the 1 weekly Faro on Thursdays has been dropped. Will be interesting to see what replaces it. All subject to change. |
Odd how they have dropped FAO, unless they plan to use Wizz metal to operate the flights. Maybe something else is in the pipeline there as you say.
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It's not just Cardiff but Bristol as well which has had other routes cut as well.
Finger's crossed for a new route but I expect an extra frequency on something else. |
Are there any other changes for 2022? Will it still be 3 TUI aircraft ? They’ve not added a new destination for a few years now since DBV, NBE & NAP so fingers crossed.
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From what I've still 3 aircraft. Naples has filled the vacant slot left by the dropping of Sharm el Sheikh. If there's to be a new route my best guess would be to Turkey. Maybe Bodrum?
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BRS have lost quite a few TUI flights......wonder what is happening as 2022 is most realistically be the year most will take holidays after the last 1.5 years of COVID.
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Jet2 effect maybe? They were originally going to base 6 aircraft at BRS but maybe now looking at 5?
This is TUI S22 summary for CWL so far. 3 based aircraft, 23 destinations, 44 weekly departures, 1 non based. Faro dropped, Sharm el Sheikh dropped, Naples returned. Palma de Mallorca 6 weekly Tenerife 3 weekly Dalaman 3 weekly Ibiza 3 weekly Antalya 2 weekly Alicante 2 weekly Malaga 2 weekly Lanzarote 2 weekly Paphos 2 weekly Corfu 2 weekly Rhodes 2 weekly Zante 2 weekly Kos 2 weekly Menorca 2 weekly Keffalonia 1 weekly Reus 1 weekly Bourgas 1 weekly Naples 1 weekly Gran Canaria 1 weekly Dubrovnik 1 weekly Enfidha 1 weekly Larnaca 1 weekly Heraklion 1 weekly |
Canarian Airways
Anymore news on when (or if) Canarian Airways will start TFS ?
CWL & GLA are the only U.K. airports to be announced and believe they are due to start in June (all COVID dependent of course). Note the A319 has now been painted into their colours so things must be progressing well..... |
You mean Lattitude (spelling intended) ?
Latest from Web Site seems to be aimed at up market Packages and CWL is no longer mentioned, perhaps chased away by Wizzair even before that starts! |
Wizz @ CWL
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Good news!
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Can see that Eastern have added JER onto their booking engine (no destinations showing or announcement made yet).
I wonder if CWL-JER is on the cards here as it would suit the based aircraft especially over the Saturday and Sunday period..... |
Belief is it'll be Southampton.
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It would fit into their schedule as an evening flight. Or make BHD the evening flight and JER the mid morning flight. Shouldn't need extra crew.
Or can see BHD going altogether. |
They would be mad to start that route. Blue Islands are already 4x daily with the loganair codeshare as a booster.
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It's one of Southampton staple routes so it'd be surprising if they didn't launch it for me anyway.
Would be nice if they launched it from CWL as well though! |
Agree here that JER would slot in quite nicely for them given the J41 is parked up all weekend long. Manx/BA used the J41 to JER along with the ATP back in the day.
I can’t see them dropping BHD as they are going head to head with EI/Stobart starting a month before them too plus the T3 are cheaper on some days too. Be great to see JER back on the boards as a great staycation destination. |
It's unlikely they will use it on weekends. Would make crewing it more difficult. Weekdays work as the crew can do 4 sectors (2 return flights).
As for BHD, can't see T3s prices staying low for long, it's not possible using the J41 to keep prices low. Plus EI have a much bigger brand presence as well as a better aircraft from a passenger perspective. |
Looking at the times it would only be possible Monday to Thursday IF the crew are Cardiff based and not Belfast based. Looking at the weekend timing's it looks like the aircraft returns to Belfast and doesn't stay in Cardiff.
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knowing the way T3 jump on and off of routes, I doubt it will last long!
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I thought the BHD route is using the CWL based aircraft and crew ? It is filling in the gap between the VLY flights. A Saturday and/or Sunday JER may work in their favour.
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That's what my understanding was of the flight.
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Letsflycwl
Well the aircraft will be based at CWL except between Friday night and Sunday by the looks of it. And I've been told by a well sourced contact that the Jersey route definitely won't be Cardiff. |
Good news to see both Loganair and Edinburgh back!
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All correct as also showing on the Loganair website with fares at £49.99 oneway.
Seems Loganair done a complete u-turn as I’m sure they said they’d not return to CWL when they pulled both the EDI & GLA routes. |
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