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PDXCWL45 15th Jan 2021 13:10

They do continue to receive A350 1000s deliveries and have 787 9s outstanding not to mention narrow body aircraft parked up. They also have 777 8s and 9s on order as well as A321neo and LR.
I do think they'll be fine aircraft wise and I wouldn't be surprised if they may well try and expand their way out of this situation.

PDXCWL45 16th Jan 2021 08:25

Wizz Air have started recruiting for their new Cardiff base!
https://wizzair.com/en-gb/informatio...ght-attendant/

Letsflycwl 18th Jan 2021 17:56

It’s reported that Eastern have pulled out of MME after less than a year after all the fan fare and publicity. Loganair are taking over all the routes including LHR.

Would Eastern be a good candidate for CWL ?? After all they do the VLY and soon to be BHD route and will now have spare aircraft that were intended for MME. They also do quite a bit of sport charters through CWL and will have some CWL based crew and also a based J41.

EDI, JER, DUB and possibly CDG may be a good fit for them (all pending on COVID situation). There can’t be many regional carriers left for these routes and we know Loganair have no interest in CWL.

I think MME were having a ATR72, J41 and the E70 based there.....

Most probably dreaming as COVID has messed up lots of things in this industry but just curious what Eastern are going to do next with Loganair muscling on their routes from other U.K. airports.

caaardiff 18th Jan 2021 18:17

Eastern are realistically one of the only options left for CWLs domestic routes. Wizz was one of the few, if not the only last option for CWL and they pulled it off, so I really wouldn't be surprised if they do expand at CWL. It will be interesting to see Eastern next move as they are slowly being pushed out at most of the Airports they recently expanded at.

Letsflycwl 18th Jan 2021 18:33

My thoughts exactly and especially as Loganair have muscles in on most of their routes and said CWL is not part of their long term plan. Eastern have those ATR 72’s plus more on order plus the E70’s which is quite a tidy sized aircraft to operate the likes of EDI, JER, DUB & CDG plus already having a based aircraft and crew here. It could be a good fit for them (pending on fares, publicity, deals and of course COVID). They are also still advertising for CWL based crew too......

SWBKCB 18th Jan 2021 19:05

Eastern still have Aberdeen and Newquay on sale from MME. Cardiff no longer listed in the destinations from MME.

Letsflycwl 18th Jan 2021 19:07

True but BHD, DUB, LHR, JER, ALC all pulled since Loganair muscled in.

globetrotter79 18th Jan 2021 20:47

Wouldn’t Cardiff-Newcastle be an obvious one for Eastern to go back on, now their TeesSide base seems to have been pulled?

davidjohnson6 18th Jan 2021 20:52

Perhaps CWL-EDI or CWL-GLA would be a safer bet instead of CWL-NCL ?

Letsflycwl 18th Jan 2021 20:54

In a real world yes but who knows in this COVID world. As previously mentioned Eastern just seem like a good fit for most of the ex Flybe routes ex CWL especially as they already have the based J41 and serve both VLY & BHD.

It would be great to see them base an ATR or the E70 here especially as no competition but it is all going to be on recovery from this pandemic in the long term and what deal/incentive CWL would offer any airline to pick up these key routes (DUB, EDI, JER, CDG).

CWL757 18th Jan 2021 21:18

Anyone know how the wizzair loads are looking?

Saabandthecity 18th Jan 2021 22:05

T3
 
Its highly likely eastern will soon disappear from scheduled operations due to their lack of focus and direction, with a tiny operation remaining in ABZ and the MME base failing for a few reasons and the strong competition at SOU to which eastern is a weak player due it's own fault of poor reliability, poor customer service (flight/cabin crews not included) and general sloppy operations.

caaardiff 19th Jan 2021 07:32

They've just taken on a few new aircraft so at this point I would think they have no choice to try and find work to utilise them as they are still early on in any lease deal. I cant see them finding enough ad-hoc work to keep them utilised so they may be forced to continue scheduled operations until they can A) pick up enough charter work and B) Bin off some aircraft.

SWBKCB 19th Jan 2021 07:37

The EMB-170 was parked up for a couple of years, so won't be costing much - similarly the J.41's and EMB-145's. Are the Atr-72's leased? Wasn't this part of the Bristows deal?

ATNotts 19th Jan 2021 07:40

caaardiff

That was one of the mistakes FlyBe probably made. Have aircraft, must fly them; however if flying them costs more than grounding them then flying them is definitely a bad idea.

Saabandthecity 19th Jan 2021 07:42

Its difficult to see what else Eastern can do that they haven't already and given up on, which other aircraft have they taken on? I know they finally got a few 41s through the heavy checks after they got left at Cranfield. And the ex Air Moldova 190 is back up for sale without operating once.

Saabandthecity 19th Jan 2021 07:45

SWBKCB

The 41s will eventually run out of parts if the engineers/technicians don't move on before then. 1 of the 145s won't be operated due to the cabin not being to eastern spec. The ATRs are currently leased, Lake had submitted a bit to purchase the aircraft from NAC who declined the offer this was back in 2019.

Fly757X 19th Jan 2021 07:46

SWBKCB

Correct, the ATRs and the E170 are leased (NAC and GECAS I believe).

All of the JS41s are owned so seen to be used on a rolling basis and the ER4s are currently for sale. There has been no listings anywhere for the ER3s which are making their way back to the U.K. but they are also owned as well at present.

fanrailuk 19th Jan 2021 10:09

This is a CWL discussion, not a T3 forum.

Please use the correct thread.

fanrailuk 22nd Jan 2021 13:15

Qatar Airways CWL - DOH service no longer on sale via their website for any future dates. Same applies for BHX.

As speculated. Let's hope it returns for 2022...

PDXCWL45 22nd Jan 2021 14:19

Cardiff is still onsale on their app and I'm told their website.

fanrailuk 22nd Jan 2021 14:21

It is not on sale on either channels, sadly.


RedDragonFlyer 22nd Jan 2021 16:59

Not in any way unexpected. Long-haul travel to the east in any sort of meaningful numbers will not be returning in 2021. Closest realistic restart date is summer 2022. There are many factors involved in that though. I think we are all hoping for QR to return in better days.

PDXCWL45 22nd Jan 2021 17:47

It appears that the app was a glitch. No idea about the website. Hopefully they'll be back in the future!

fanrailuk 27th Jan 2021 20:38

Ryanair S21
 
AGP

According to the App and website, it looks like Ryanair are adding flights to Malaga this summer and extending it to the end of the summer season in October with it starting it in June as planned.

5 x weekly in June (M,Tu,W,F,Sa)
6 x weekly in July & August (no flight on Sun)
3 x weekly in September & October (Tu,Th,F)

FAO

Faro remains 2 x weekly Mondays & Fridays for the entire summer season.

As a side note, Vueling have started to load their W21/22 November & December flights to ALC - currently at 3 x weekly (Tu,Th,Sa) up to 18th December.

PDXCWL45 28th Jan 2021 14:12

Barcelona looks like it might be returning. Its appeared on the app as 2 weekly Tuesday and Saturday from May until the end of October but at the moment no flights loaded. Fingers crossed they'll be loaded soon and maybe even Malta might return as well!

PDXCWL45 29th Jan 2021 12:45

Well unfortunately it looks like the increases were too good to be true!
Malaga will remain 3 weekly but on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays except June when it's 2 weekly with no Thursday flight. The route will operate in September and October so some good news there.

Unfortunately Barcelona has disappeared from the drop down on the app.

Letsflycwl 1st Feb 2021 20:59

It was reported elsewhere (I think Twitter) that Ryanair uploaded lots of new flights which were visible on the app/website for a few hours and included other airports such as STN, ABZ, BRS etc along with CWL that were then hidden.......who knows really but we may see BCN appear at some point again

fanrailuk 5th Feb 2021 09:17

Ryanair S21
 
CWL - BCN starts 1 May to 30 October

2 x weekly - Tuesday & Saturday

On sale now.

Letsflycwl 5th Feb 2021 12:23

Thats good news - I wonder if MLA would return at some point too ?

ATNotts 5th Feb 2021 13:13

No, the good news will be IF it starts operating on 1st May. Presently I really cannot see how leisure travel is going to get up and running much before July, I mean the plan at the moment is only to have vaccinated over 50s by May.

ericlday 10th Feb 2021 14:26

CANARIAN AIRWAYS IS BORN, THE NEW CANARY AIRLINE https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/e....5/16/2708.png
Today Wednesday, the Cabildo of Tenerife hosted the presentation of Canarian Airways, a new air carrier led by hoteliers Tinerfeños and One Airways, which will begin operating from June from Tenerife South Airport with a single 144-seater plane.
The new airline will launch from next March the sale and booking of tickets, flying to destinations such as Madrid, Barcelona, Vigo and Bilbao, Glasgow, Cardiff and Berlin.

SWBKCB 10th Feb 2021 15:36

At first glance I thought somebody had re-launched Cambrian.... :(

Letsflycwl 10th Feb 2021 15:53

Interesting why CWL has been picked, not that I’m knocking it. One A319 has already been bought by the airline (ex Atlantic Airways) but cannot find a website for the airline at present but guess it be nice to have a new carrier for sure as and when it launches.

SKOJB 10th Feb 2021 16:24

Saw mentioned 144 seats so assume A319, will be interesting to see if this ever gets off the ground!

Letsflycwl 18th Feb 2021 20:08

Could there be a “potential” return of Aer Lingus and a CWL-DUB route ? CWL has appeared on drop down menu but all flights are showing “sold out” along with other flights to BHX & EDI from ORK & SNN.

Baffled as to why EI pulled that route so only time will tell

Alteagod 18th Feb 2021 20:14

Could be BHD CWL route maybe

CWL757 18th Feb 2021 20:19

Letsflycwl

they pulled the route because CWL management got too comfy in bed with BEE, as they did with WW causing FR to pull out of the DUB route in 2006 (?). Fingers crossed CWL-DUB will return!

PDXCWL45 18th Feb 2021 20:29

The other story is that they weren't getting enough onward traffic to the USA and wanted to use the aircraft to expand at other airports.
CWL has been on the drop down for Dublin for quite a while.

Letsflycwl 18th Feb 2021 20:57

Wasn’t DUB one of BE’s most used route passenger wise though ? I remember in the FR days with both the 732 & 738 that the loads were always high. Yes £££ has to do with it but DUB was certainly not an under used route. If EI can serve EXT & NQY then logically CWL would also work but again all down to £££, COVID recovery and demand.


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