Vueling
Vueling to start scheduled flights between CWL and Paris Orly as of 02/11/2021 on Tuesdays and Saturdays.
It has been reported that Vueling have secured slots at ORY resulting in CWL along with BFS, BHX, EDI, GLA & NCL all appearing to have been added after they gained Air France slots at ORY. |
Good news to see Paris back on the departure boards!
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Yeah I agree, let’s hope it gets used and an additional flight be added if that’s the case !! 2 a week is better than nothing……
Same goes for FR and the DUB sector, be great if this got to go daily like it used too with FR. Just need the JER sector to be filled for next summer. |
Wizz have reinstated the winter seasonal CWL-SSH sector and are due to start 01/11/2022 now instead of this year.
With all the Wizz expansion lately (notably DSA within the U.K.) I wonder if there be more in the pipeline next year for CWL? |
think it’s going to be more of a case of let’s see if they start before we think about expansion. Don’t mean to be all doom and gloom but they’ve not operated a commercial flight from the base yet so let’s see.
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Thats you not because they took the decision to postpone everything until March 2022 due to the pandemic and there is no reason why they are not going ahead with the CWL base.
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Not CWL bashing as I want it to succeed too but you have to be realistic. There are many reasons in business why ventures don’t progress. Airlines don’t exist to start routes to please us enthusiasts, they’re there to make money.
look at the QR flights. They’re postponed but do you realistically see them returning? W6 will have weighed up the economics of CWL and had the demand been there, flights would now be running. They’re not. So they’re postponed until next year which suggests that demand is not yet there. Why would they expand if demand is not yet there for some of the most popular destinations? |
I get your point but Wizz took the decision to postpone to March 2022 due to the uncertainty on restrictions / red list / requirements which if we go back to the summer when they announced this were all over the place with all airlines cancelling or extending their restrictions. I think it was a wise move to simply postpone to when everything is calmer which should hopefully by March.
It is not only CWL for Wizz but also DSA & LGW were all affected so guess time will tell. the destinations offered by Wizz are safe and sensible (maybe not SSH unless people want the guaranteed sun) but now with a date confirmed and hopefully with a big marketing push by both Wizz and CWL bookings should gradually increase…..all being well. |
I do realistically expect QR to return at some point…
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Yeah I agree…..the loads were steadily picking up prior to Covid so hope they do too. Then again many people said it would never last but it did and it would still be operating in a non-Covid world.
Lets hope they do return at some point in the future and I’m sure CWL management will work their best at this. |
The demand isn't there because of the pandemic and travel restrictions hence why they made the wise decision imo to postpone until March 2022. As for expansion we don't know what they have planned but their CEO is quoted as saying it's not likely that they'll stay at 1 aircraft because 1 aircraft bases aren't economical.
As for Qatar Airways we can just hope they do come back but realistically we can't really expect any return to be in 2022. |
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Not sure if any of you will remember the Airports UK Timetables book that used to come out each year but I really liked it. I've kind of made one for CWL for next year. Its not 100% complete (flight numbers and some A/C types missing) but I've attached it below if anyone is interested. If you have the missing info, I can send the excel copy for you to update. Obviously all subject to change. Interesting that the winter only ACE flight with W6 will operate until 10/06.
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That’s great seeing it all like on paper mate, interesting to see AYT as TBA, guess this maybe Freebird again.
I’d have thought Wizz would do ACE year round too, obvs something is scheduled to take it place…maybe another TBA destination or an additional flight to somewhere they already lab to serve just for the peak season. You’ve missed off the new Vueling ORY flights. Really good spreadsheet though so happy to let you know if I hear or find out anything else for it. |
yeah the ORY flights aren’t bookable it seems for June next year. Just did a random search. Will get the added when released.
Seeing it on paper makes you realise the hole that BE have left in the departures. We’re averaging 11 departures and 11 arrivals a day next summer so far. |
Deffo pretty sad really, BE certainly filled the departure board big time. But as someone said earlier Wizz have always commented they don’t like a one aircraft base so maybe CWL are working on that…..hopefully.
Wish we still had Air Wales now as most of these old BE destinations would be well suited to them !! |
I believe Heraklion or Corfu fills the gap between June and October.
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Heraklion replaces ACE in June for the summer.
Corfu also starts mid June but up until then there's just a gap in the schedule on Tuesdays and Saturdays mornings. You'd think Wizz would fill the gap with extra Malaga or Faro or somewhere similar. |
Interview: Wizz Air?s Marion Geoffroy | Travel Weekly
CWL mentioned by Wizz again and that the U.K. is their biggest market and hope to expand…. Also confirmed they will be starting CWL as planned in April. |
Seems that Eastern Airway flights from SOU and CWL to BHD flights will change again on the 28th Oct
x4 days a week 07:30 CWL-BHD 08:50 09:25 SOU-BHD 11:00 11:30 SOU-BHD 13:05 13:45 BHD-CWL 15:05 This will be on a BeA Jetstream 41 |
Cardiff - Anglesey PSO route said to be "under review"
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...e-under-review |
A summary of the evidence that the airport produced to the Senedd Public Accounts Committee.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...f-22051452.amp |
A report following the Senedd PAC:
https://ukaviation.news/uncertainty-...rdiff-airport/ |
KLM
With KLM using the E190 for the single flight a day. Does anybody know what the numbers have been like? Do we think they might be looking to reintroduce the morning flight even if just with the E175s? It’s always been a really useful hub airline for Cardiff and the missing morning flight means you miss those transatlantic connections in Amsterdam that allowed travellers the option to avoid trekking to Heathrow.
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Originally Posted by cymru
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With KLM using the E190 for the single flight a day. Does anybody know what the numbers have been like? Do we think they might be looking to reintroduce the morning flight even if just with the E175s? It’s always been a really useful hub airline for Cardiff and the missing morning flight means you miss those transatlantic connections in Amsterdam that allowed travellers the option to avoid trekking to Heathrow.
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Qatar
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
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The demand isn't there because of the pandemic and travel restrictions hence why they made the wise decision imo to postpone until March 2022. As for expansion we don't know what they have planned but their CEO is quoted as saying it's not likely that they'll stay at 1 aircraft because 1 aircraft bases aren't economical.
As for Qatar Airways we can just hope they do come back but realistically we can't really expect any return to be in 2022. Pete |
Originally Posted by OltonPete
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Some booking platforms showing Qatar back from the end of March 5 a week - just not their own website at the moment. Could be a glitch I suppose
Pete |
Qatar still has a Cardiff page on their website. However, if you try to book it, it offers the train via Paddington.
I believe it, like Birmingham, were suspended rather than cancelled outright. Being realistic, if the route is going to return, it will not be until the major markets east of Doha (mainly the subcontinent, Thailand and Australia/NZ) are fully open. |
November 2021 Stats
Stats are out for the 2021 until November.
international: Brussels: 232 Larnaca: 186 Paris Orly: 564 St. brieuc: 46 Dublin: 3,925 Shannon: 95 Amsterdam: 2,171 Alicante: 4,564 Madrid: 38 Malaga: 1,264 Arrecife: 2,189 Las Palmas: 955 Tenerife: 2,768 Kaliningrad: 88 Barbados: 283 Domestic: Belfast (BHD): 544 Doncaster Sheffield: 68 Edinburgh: 1,273 Humberside: 78 |
Cardiff has a new Aviation Development Manager. Marc Watkins is ex BHX and has 25 year's experience in the industry.
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...pment-manager/ |
Originally Posted by PDXCWL45
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Cardiff has a new Aviation Development Manager. Marc Watkins is ex BHX and has 25 year's experience in the industry.
https://www.cardiff-airport.com/news...pment-manager/ |
According to Business Traveller, Eastern are stopping CWL-BHD flights.
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A quote from the above article...
Some of you will know the Humberside-based airline runs a tight ship |
I believe that is indeed the case but only for a couple of months
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I wonder if the new Aer Lingus Regional (Emerald) would pick this up….announced a new BHD base today along with some other U.K. destinations and plans for further destinations to be added. Bit like Stobart Air had planned……who knows but hopefully CWL will be somewhere on that new list.
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Ryanair (Lauda Air) showing CWL-VIE on 24/25 March on the FR webpage, obviously for the Wales v Austria Football as just one off’s.
Come on FR give us a new destination on a permanent basis !! |
Vueling ORY increase for S22
Vueling have increased CWL-ORY to 3 per week from Summer 2022….only U.K. airport to get an increase with their Paris flights.
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A look at what Vueling will be offering peak Summer 2022 from the first week of August
Alicante 6 weekly no flight on Fridays Malaga 4 weekly Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday Majorca 3 weekly Monday, Wednesday and Thursday Paris 3 weekly Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday In total 16 weekly departures, 4 routes and in total 6156 seats |
I think the Cardiff airport departures page is not working properly. https://www.cardiff-airport.com/live...on/departures/ seems to suggest there are between 3 and 6 flights per day and many of them are to Dublin, is there an error in the information feed ?
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Ireland vs Wales in the 6 Nations Rugby this weekend
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BY S22
Anyone know what TUIs fleet plans are for CWL this summer? Still 1x TUI 738 and 2x Sunwing 738s?
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