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Travel Agent 12th Oct 2022 14:36

Part of press release re Jet2 Summer 2024:Newcastle International Airport
  • 34 sun destinations on sale (peak number of flights per week in brackets)
  • Antalya (8), Bodrum (2), Dalaman (9), Izmir (2), Tenerife (8), Lanzarote (5), Fuerteventura (2), Gran Canaria (3), Reus (3), Alicante (9), Malaga (7), Girona (1), Palma (Majorca) (13), Ibiza (7), Menorca (3), Faro (Algarve) (7), Madeira (1), Crete (Heraklion) (3), Crete (Chania) (1), Corfu (3), Halkidiki (1), Kefalonia (2), Skiathos (1), Santorini (1), Kos (2), Rhodes (3), Zante (4), Larnaca (3), Paphos (2), Verona (1), Bulgaria (Bourgas) (2), Dubrovnik (1), Malta (2), Jersey (1)
  • Over 120 departing weekly flights during peak periods

SWBKCB 12th Oct 2022 16:31

So the obvious question is how does that compare to 2022 and 2023? Nine aircraft base?

Diff Tail Shim 13th Oct 2022 16:20


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11307308)
Congratulations to all involved.

Thank you.

skyhawk1 20th Oct 2022 17:32

Emirates
 
Emirates flights on sale daily from December on their website. Not seen anything official from them or airport. Can anyone out there confirm as it’s good news if true.

sunshine79 20th Oct 2022 20:43


Originally Posted by skyhawk1 (Post 11316813)
Emirates flights on sale daily from December on their website. Not seen anything official from them or airport. Can anyone out there confirm as it’s good news if true.

I've just checked March and no Tuesday or Thursday flight. Could be extra flights in December because of the World Cup in Qatar.

GAXLN 20th Oct 2022 21:00


Originally Posted by sunshine79 (Post 11316923)
I've just checked March and no Tuesday or Thursday flight. Could be extra flights in December because of the World Cup in Qatar.

They are on sale for the rest of the winter timetable period. I have just checked CRS availability.

Jamesair1 22nd Oct 2022 17:13

I see that NCL are attending the Routes conference.....hope some new routes come out of it.
I would like to see Lisbon and maybe Istanbul a return of Nice...Oslo and Copenhagen.

Beatts 25th Oct 2022 18:41

https://www.hexham-courant.co.uk/new...security-area/

N707ZS 26th Oct 2022 07:53

Wonder if they might replace the beat-up couches in the departure shed.

JonnyH 26th Oct 2022 11:38

Have Ryanair confirmed their summer schedule S23 yet? There were whispers Chania might be dropped.

Majority of routes UK wide are not for sale on their website.

Beatts 27th Oct 2022 19:23

Back up to flights a day to Heathrow from Mon.

SWBKCB 27th Oct 2022 19:25


Originally Posted by Beatts (Post 11321114)
Back up to five flights a day to Heathrow from Mon.

Number of flights added! :ok:


BHX5DME 1st Nov 2022 10:24

Turkish looking at 28 new destinations and Newcastle is listed (the only UK one)

Jamesair1 1st Nov 2022 14:19

FLYBE
 
FLYBE timetable now showing

LONDON (LHR)....MON - FRI dep. 1550
from 7th Nov.
BELFAST (BHD)...from 7th Nov. M - F & S Then increasing to DAILY. from 14th Nov

LHR ...unexpected development....BHD expected.

toon22 1st Nov 2022 14:32

Have a look at the market shares between easyJet and flybe when flybe 1.0 last flew the route. Flybe had a maximum of 15% share and had already dropped the route from it’s Belfast network. Add to that, the folly of a once daily service to Heathrow where 80% of the traffic is connecting. How long can this shambles last?

Jamesair1 1st Nov 2022 16:54

LHR might be a case of finding use for one of the slots it holds there. BHD ....I agree with your observations...... EZY has that market pretty well sewn up....when I look at the EZY/RYANAIR monthly figures, I hadn't realised just how big the NCL - IRELAND market is....with Cork now operating and Shannon being added next year.

CabinCrewe 1st Nov 2022 20:13


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11323746)
LHR ...unexpected development.....

I give it a loss making 12 months….

onion 2nd Nov 2022 07:39

Within 2 years Newcastle Airport Local Authority Holding company (owners of the airport) need to find and pay £188m worth of debts off, including around £60m this year.
With interest rates as they are and a balance sheet that has been heading oneway over the last few years, who is going to pick up the tab?
Currently Newcastle is a £400m black hole owned by the North East tax payer!

ATNotts 2nd Nov 2022 08:24


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11323920)
I give it a loss making 12 months….

Was that a typo? Didn't you mean weeks?

An iceberg lettuce might outlast it.

SWBKCB 2nd Nov 2022 11:17

I make the September figures 470k without Bristol which was 10k in August. Sept 2019 was 554k. The big losers are Palma, Alicante, Malaga and LHR which are all down over 10k each compared to 2019. Canaries are up (Tenerife and Las Palmas).

Despite all the reported difficulties AMS and CDG virtually identical to 2019, as is DUS. Aberdeen massively down, as is Southampton - about a third of 2019. Maybe that might have been a better chaoice for BE...

N707ZS 2nd Nov 2022 11:41

Palma is probably Teesside locals realising they can fly from nearer home. I can also say a friend priced Edinburgh cheaper for Alicante for a family of five.

SWBKCB 2nd Nov 2022 11:52


Originally Posted by N707ZS (Post 11324198)
Palma is probably Teesside locals realising they can fly from nearer home.

If it was all of those flying from MME rather than NCL, that would be a third of the reduction.


I can also say a friend priced Edinburgh cheaper for Alicante for a family of five.
Probably the long standing price effect of the difference in school Summer holiday timings.

sunshine79 2nd Nov 2022 15:00

Interesting to see TK have added NCL to 'where we fly from' Unfortunately the flights are not loaded at the moment.

United Kingdom flight details

Turkish Airlines flies to five different locations in United Kingdom: Edinburgh, Birmingham, London (two different airports), Manchester and Newcastle.

London Heathrow Airport (LHR) is regarded as the busiest airport serving in United Kingdom with the number of 76 million passengers per year. The second busiest airport is Gatwick Airport (LGW) which is also in London, serving to 43 million passengers each year. Manchester Airport (MAN) reaches the annual passenger number of 23 million as the third busiest airport countrywide.

Direct flights by Turkish Airlines from Istanbul Airport (IST) take four to four and a half hours in average. The points of destination vary as Birmingham Airport (BHX), London Gatwick Airport (LGW), London Heathrow Airport (LHR), Manchester Airport (MAN) and Newcastle International Airport (NCL).

Lets hope this comes to fruition.

SWBKCB 2nd Nov 2022 15:16


Originally Posted by sunshine79 (Post 11324307)
Interesting to see TK have added NCL to 'where we fly from' Unfortunately the flights are not loaded at the moment.

United Kingdom flight details

Turkish Airlines flies to five different locations in United Kingdom: Edinburgh, Birmingham, London (two different airports), Manchester and Newcastle.

London Heathrow Airport (LHR) is regarded as the busiest airport serving in United Kingdom with the number of 76 million passengers per year. The second busiest airport is Gatwick Airport (LGW) which is also in London, serving to 43 million passengers each year. Manchester Airport (MAN) reaches the annual passenger number of 23 million as the third busiest airport countrywide.

Direct flights by Turkish Airlines from Istanbul Airport (IST) take four to four and a half hours in average. The points of destination vary as Birmingham Airport (BHX), London Gatwick Airport (LGW), London Heathrow Airport (LHR), Manchester Airport (MAN) and Newcastle International Airport (NCL).

Lets hope this comes to fruition.

That bit about Newcastle has been on their website for quite a while for some reason...

SWBKCB 2nd Nov 2022 16:31


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11324315)
That bit about Newcastle has been on their website for quite a while for some reason...

Since at least September 2021

jensdad 2nd Nov 2022 19:39


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11324360)
Since at least September 2021

Could this be either a reference to the Sun Express flights, or maybe a codeshare? I know they're part of Star Alliance, so do they share on Lufty's FRA-NCL route?

CabinCrewe 2nd Nov 2022 22:25

TK would surely eat significantly into EK transfer numbers (and maybe further erode BA) Can’t see it generating huge amounts extra new inbound or point to point.
Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

SWBKCB 2nd Nov 2022 22:33


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11324515)
TK would surely eat significantly into EK transfer numbers (and maybe further erode BA) Can’t see it generating huge amounts extra new inbound or point to point.
Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

Which is the same arguement put forward when EK started, etc etc

HH6702 3rd Nov 2022 05:11

TK
 
This will happen and by the sounds of it in time for next summers peak.

if it is to compete with EK, KLM etc I would expect to see the route at least 5 x weekly using 737/320’s etc


SWBKCB 3rd Nov 2022 06:39


Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?
Presumably the references to Kabul and Tehran were an attempt to be funny, but EK do serve Kabul. TK serve many places in the former Soviet Union and Africa which aren't covered by EK

Asturias56 3rd Nov 2022 09:30


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11324515)
TK would surely eat significantly into EK transfer numbers (and maybe further erode BA) Can’t see it generating huge amounts extra new inbound or point to point.
Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

A lot of people are going to Istanbul for short breaks these days

Plus from a business point of view - they link into all sorts of places you can't easily get to from the main UK and European airports

davidjohnson6 3rd Nov 2022 13:49


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11324515)
TK would surely eat significantly into EK transfer numbers (and maybe further erode BA) Can’t see it generating huge amounts extra new inbound or point to point.
Does TK offer relevant new eastbound transfer destinations for an NCL travelling public… Kabul, Tehran anyone?

People from Afghanistan and Iran living in the UK are more numous than one might initially guess. They tend to keep a low profile because their countries are not popular amongst many born in the UK... but they also want to travel to see family
Similiar story for many other groups of people born in or with strong ties to other countries in Asia and Africa... again keep a low profile but they most definitely exist in the UK

Jamesair1 3rd Nov 2022 14:46

I can't imagine many Afghans wanting to visit their relatives....they might never get out again. Iranians do visit relatives back home. Istanbul is a popular tourist destination itself (also with cruises starting and ending there)..there are also many Turks living in the UK who would use the service to visit relatives back home.

Asturias56 4th Nov 2022 09:48

I know some people who use Turkish for flights into the Sub-continent on business - they say it s a much pleasanter experience than going direct or via the Gulf

Jamesair1 7th Nov 2022 15:55

TURKISH AIRLINES......NCL is now in the booking engine but no start date available yet.

GAXLN 9th Nov 2022 00:19

But then so is BRS and GLA

Jamesair1 12th Nov 2022 07:58

Does anyone know if the new Flybe flights are attracting many pax?

VickersVicount 12th Nov 2022 10:43


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11324898)
IIstanbul is a popular tourist destination itself (also with cruises starting and ending there)..there are also many Turks living in the UK who would use the service to visit relatives back home.

Enough to fill a daily year round 738 and have zero impact on EK?

SWBKCB 12th Nov 2022 10:55


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11329596)
Enough to fill a daily year round 738 and have zero impact on EK?

Why just EK, they would be competing with BA, KL, LH and AF as well. And this is exactly the same arguement when EK came in, how they would undermine the other hub operators. They are all big boys, sure they can stand a bit of competititon

GrahamK 12th Nov 2022 11:19

A lot of negativity from the usual suspects.


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