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GrahamK 7th Dec 2022 06:16

Couple of Ryanair changes for s23, Menorca no longer on sale but Alicante increased to 9 x weekly with double flights on Mondays and Thursdays. Would expect further changes

Jamesair1 7th Dec 2022 08:32

More Ryanair change for S23...DUBLIN increased to 15 weekly with 3 daily flights on Wednesdays and FARO cut from 4 to 3 weekly

AVGEEK7812 7th Dec 2022 09:04


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11343647)
More Ryanair change for S23...DUBLIN increased to 15 weekly with 3 daily flights on Wednesdays and FARO cut from 4 to 3 weekly

Apologies if mentioned before NCL also looks be getting a based 8200 MAX as well. The early Tues morning SNN flight is operated by a NCL based 8200

RA85684 7th Dec 2022 09:35

Quite surprised at the reduction to FAO but perhaps 4 weekly was just a little too much and pushing the price point down a little too far. I'm still surprised not to see more to Malaga. Personally would rather sh*t in my hands and clap than suffer Benidorm but Alicante keeps paying the bills for all 3 of our major operators so... Whatever gets the punters through the door I suppose.

Very odd that Wednesday gets 3 flights to DUB. Sounds a bit random and slot sitter-y to me, rather than commercially driven. Monday, Friday or Sunday I would have understood. Still, a flight is a flight.

Menorca seemed to do rather poorly for FR this summer so it isn't a surprise it's been pulled although slightly disappointing. I'd have thought they'd just reduce to x2 weekly and push the prices a little to see if that drove better yields. They know what they're doing.

As for Cork, I do hope to see it come back along with Shannon for S23. It would be nice to have and maintain 5 irish destinations available from NCL.

Now then... Madrid? Budapest? Berlin? Venice? Brussels? Hamburg?

Jamesair1 7th Dec 2022 16:25

Shannon is at 3 weekly for summer 23...in fact the route commences on the 26th Mar. 23.

AVGEEK7812....do you mean increasing the base from 2 to 3 a/c?

AVGEEK7812 7th Dec 2022 16:31


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11343877)
Shannon is at 3 weekly for summer 23...in fact the route commences on the 26th Mar. 23.

AVGEEK7812....do you mean increasing the base from 2 to 3 a/c?

Sorry meant one of the 738 seems to be upgrading to a MAX. two SNN flights are by SNN a/c and crew and the other seems to be a MAX and NCL crew so it seems NCL will have at least 1 MAX based next year.

Jamesair1 8th Dec 2022 16:22

more changes.....RYANAIR....CHANIA and ZADAR both up from 1 to 2 weekly for S23....AER LINGUS....daily for S23

RA85684 8th Dec 2022 17:31

Encouraging...

Either Paddies love the toon recently or Geordies love paying 7 euros a pint!

Either way, nice to see. My shamrock flight in October, NCL-DUB was rammed.

Jamesair1 9th Dec 2022 07:51

JET 2 timetable now showing BERGEN operating 25th and 29th April 2024...part of the City Breaks programme..
2 flts only.



CORK......the airport website has answered the question.....it has been replaced by SHANNON for S23

sunshine79 11th Dec 2022 21:23

NCL are taking some STN diversions as their runway is closed due to the heavy snow down there

GAXLN 12th Dec 2022 11:29


Originally Posted by sunshine79 (Post 11346178)
NCL are taking some STN diversions as their runway is closed due to the heavy snow down there

Four 737-800’s I think plus a Lauda A320 - all still on the ground at NCL at this time

GrahamK 12th Dec 2022 19:32

Might just be me but the Ryanair based aircraft aren't utilised very much over the winter season. Seems 1 aircraft Mon-Wed then 2 Thurs-Sun. Surprised Ryanair would do that

skyhawk1 14th Dec 2022 19:01

What’s up with todays EK flight?

JonnyH 15th Dec 2022 15:24

A lot of focus, including from me, has been on Flybe but credit where it’s due they seem to have turned a corner the last couple of weeks.

It seems that Loganair have taken their place, however, and they’ve had some nightmare tech issues this week including today resulting in delays and flight cancellations. I thought personally they usually had a relief/spare aircraft but looks like they must be having similar issues as this isn’t just limited to NCL. Hopefully resolved soon.

SWBKCB 15th Dec 2022 15:39


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 11346710)
Might just be me but the Ryanair based aircraft aren't utilised very much over the winter season. Seems 1 aircraft Mon-Wed then 2 Thurs-Sun. Surprised Ryanair would do that

Isn't this normal? RYR have parked a/c up in the past over winter. Only 3 Jet2 departures yesterday


What’s up with todays EK flight?
Believe it was down to crew illness.

ash666 15th Dec 2022 22:55


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 11348446)
A lot of focus, including from me, has been on Flybe but credit where it’s due they seem to have turned a corner the last couple of weeks.

It seems that Loganair have taken their place, however, and they’ve had some nightmare tech issues this week including today resulting in delays and flight cancellations. I thought personally they usually had a relief/spare aircraft but looks like they must be having similar issues as this isn’t just limited to NCL. Hopefully resolved soon.

I had a look at 2 random flights from NCL and both planes were 15 years old so tech issues to be expected and they need to have contingency plans for this.


chaps1954 16th Dec 2022 07:06

15 years is nothing in years of an aircraft many Ryanair, Easy are same age


Asturias56 16th Dec 2022 08:37

If you saw the announcement about the big Boeing purchase this week by United they are replacing a bunch of aircraft that AVERAGE 20-27 years old

ash666 16th Dec 2022 09:29


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11348898)
If you saw the announcement about the big Boeing purchase this week by United they are replacing a bunch of aircraft that AVERAGE 20-27 years old

Which is why they are replacing them.
How old was the United 757 that spent more time on the ground than in the air?

Chesty Morgan 16th Dec 2022 11:13


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 11348845)
15 years is nothing in years of an aircraft many Ryanair, Easy are same age

Exactly. Notwithstanding the fact that many parts and engines will have been chaged then are 15 year old aeroplanes really 15 years old...maybe just the makers plate!

Asturias56 16th Dec 2022 15:26

"Which is why they are replacing them"

But they've run them a lot longer than the 15 years you mentioned

Diff Tail Shim 16th Dec 2022 16:51


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 11348446)
A lot of focus, including from me, has been on Flybe but credit where it’s due they seem to have turned a corner the last couple of weeks.

It seems that Loganair have taken their place, however, and they’ve had some nightmare tech issues this week including today resulting in delays and flight cancellations. I thought personally they usually had a relief/spare aircraft but looks like they must be having similar issues as this isn’t just limited to NCL. Hopefully resolved soon.

Winter weather causes carnage with elderly aircraft. There are no new regional aircraft in the 30/70 seat class. Bar ATRs and they are not the greatest of machines.

Saabdriver1 16th Dec 2022 18:15

This week at NCL:

FZFG at NCL Tue
Handlers de-icing rig broke Wed
Aircraft tech Wed nt with cold weather issues

Couldn’t get usual replacement aircraft in from ABZ due mass disruption, snow and ice causing havoc with crew and maintenance schedule. Also one 145 late back from C check just on its way home now and an ATR late back from C Check home earlier today, both over a week late.

Just about getting back on track now. Not a good week to be flying.

Asturias56 17th Dec 2022 07:56

the run up to Christmas is never a good time to go flying

toon22 17th Dec 2022 12:38

Paris. Are Air France cutting their Newcastle frequencies? From first April, the night –.stop aircraft appears to have been removed and replaced with a single A319 flight in the late morning. A far cry from the 3-times daily service operated last summer.

Jamesair1 17th Dec 2022 12:57

No....there is an overall increase of 2 flights a week...early season it rises to 15 weekly then drops back to 14 per week. flights per day vary between 1 2 and 3 daily. Gradually recovering to the 3 daily level.

toon22 17th Dec 2022 13:03

…… that’s not showing on the AF website.

SWBKCB 17th Dec 2022 13:12

Just looked at the week starting 1 April it varies from 1 to 3 - strangely (to me anyway) it's Monday and Friday with just one flight. (Mix of mainline and Hop!)

GrahamK 17th Dec 2022 14:46

No nightstoppers on Sun/Mon and Fri/Sat IIRC. With a 3rd flight on Tues/Thurs?

Jamesair1 17th Dec 2022 15:54

April is 1x M, 3 x Tu, 2 x W, 3x Th, 1 x F, 2 x Sa and 3 x Su....giving 15 flights an increase of 2 overall.


changing tack ....I wonder how long before Lufthansa goes double daily on FRA?

toon22 17th Dec 2022 16:12

that will teach me not just to check Mondays and Fridays 🙂

Jamesair1 17th Dec 2022 16:21

Some October Pax figures.
PARIS................14,095
DUSSELDORF......2120
FRANKFURT.........3798
DUBLIN..............19,829
MILAN................. 2679
ROME..................2984
AMSTERDAM....26,635
STAVANGER..........839
DUBAI...............15,139

MELBOURNE.......3019
CANCUN...............4187

DUBROVIK..........2960
LARNACA............5941
CORFU................3307
CHANIA...............2470
HERAKLION.........5806
KOS.....................5687
RHODES..............6565
FARO................16,438
ALICANTE.........26,635
IBIZA.................13,054
MAHON...............8206
MALAGA...........16,644
PALMA.............30,685
REUS..................5100
ARRECIFE........13,412
FUERTEVENTURA......7170
LAS PALMAS......9806
TENERIFE........23,987
ANTALYA.........12,364
DALAMAN.......12,255
RIGA.................2541
GDANSK...........3671
KRAKOW..........7204
PAPHOS.........10,383

ABERDEEN........767
BELFAST ......16,884
BRISTOL........11,560
EXETER............1247
HEATHROW...29,279
NEWQUAY.........401
SOUTHAMPTON....

Jamesair1 17th Dec 2022 16:25

TOON 22
No worries....it's all a bit of entertainment on a feezing cold day.
Look at my last post....when I typed the pax numbers they were all in a straight line....look how they've come out.....I am sober as well.

RA85684 17th Dec 2022 21:48

Very odd, really. Pretty much across the board, Monday and Friday are the days of the week with highest demand. Perhaps there's a liaison with KLM that we aren't seeing or the schedule isn't fully complete yet. We have to presume they know their market though. There are, however 2 CDG-NCL flights on Mondays and Fridays. AF mainline night stoppers.

As for LH double daily FRA, lets hope soon. I would like to see Aegean and Lufthansa support eachother and build *A loyalty in the North East. Turkish would be a nice addition to that as well.

HH6702 17th Dec 2022 22:50

Be good to see FRA going twice daily

HH6702 19th Dec 2022 10:05

Loganair Summer 2023
 
MME looses based 145 NCL gains it

Aberdeen 2 x daily
Oslo via Aberdeen 6 x weekly

information from seanM1997 on twitter

Jamesair1 19th Dec 2022 14:27

......
And don't forget SOUTHAMPTON increases to 3 daily.

Diff Tail Shim 19th Dec 2022 17:02

Best news I have heard for ages.

GrahamK 19th Dec 2022 17:19

BA decreasing frequency to LHR to 4 daily next summer.
Wonder if Loganair would have made this move if T3 hadn't just upped frequency to ABZ...

VickersVicount 19th Dec 2022 18:49

Bet that Loganair timetable bears no resemblance in 6 months. Talk about shifting deckchairs.


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