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SWBKCB 12th Nov 2022 11:45


Originally Posted by GrahamK (Post 11329619)
A lot of negativity from the usual suspects.

Yes - not bad going for a route that hasn't even been announced yet... :ok:

Jamesair1 12th Nov 2022 15:50

I'm sure Turkish will consider all of these points before they make a final decision. I did read that NCL was on their priority list of points to be served.

HH6702 12th Nov 2022 18:15


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11326850)
TURKISH AIRLINES......NCL is now in the booking engine but no start date available yet.


it’s been there for months now

tigertanaka 12th Nov 2022 18:19

I would be staggered if this turned out to be true but The Northern Echo are suggesting that Saudair could be launching from Newcastle...

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...rport-flights/

SWBKCB 12th Nov 2022 19:17

Shirt sponsorship more likely. The Echo should stick to cutting and pasting press releases.


If launched, the flight would be the first new major long-haul route from Newcastle since Emirates started flying to Dubai in 2007.
Presumably United was a minor long-haul route?

highwideandugly 12th Nov 2022 19:52

Think they diverted to Teesside on way in…good start!

LiamNCL 12th Nov 2022 22:21

FLY SAUDIA all around electronic boards at various points of the Newcastle Chelsea game this evening so just a sponsorship promotion.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9dafb3d009.jpg

HH6702 12th Nov 2022 23:32

Saudi
 
makes you think are we about to get some flights.
not many people will travel to Manchester or London just to fly Saudi when we have daily Emirates flights.

think we could see 3x weekly flights maybe ?
A321’s

jensdad 13th Nov 2022 13:04


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 11329983)
makes you think are we about to get some flights.
not many people will travel to Manchester or London just to fly Saudi when we have daily Emirates flights.

think we could see 3x weekly flights maybe ?
A321’s

I'd be amazed (and a bit embarrassed as a Geordie to see the way Tyneside is sucking up to the Saudis, but that's for Jet Blast). The match was on national and international TV - the Saudia ads aren't there for the folks in the Leazes End.

ATNotts 13th Nov 2022 13:19

The idea that Saudia would decide to offer scheduled service to NCL ahead of EDI or GLA is almost laughable, but it would be a real coup were it to come to pass.

LiamNCL 13th Nov 2022 13:36


Originally Posted by ATNotts (Post 11330253)
The idea that Saudia would decide to offer scheduled service to NCL ahead of EDI or GLA is almost laughable, but it would be a real coup were it to come to pass.

Not when NUFC will essentially the biggest supported football club in Saudi Arabia if the demand from Saudi to visit Newcastle is there then it will be well before GLA and EDI.

I personally think this is just a partnership of the club and wont result in any scheduled services but like i say the bigger and more successful the club becomes there will be demand from Saudi Arabia's end.

ATNotts 13th Nov 2022 13:59


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 11330263)
Not when NUFC will essentially the biggest supported football club in Saudi Arabia if the demand from Saudi to visit Newcastle is there then it will be well before GLA and EDI.

I personally think this is just a partnership of the club and wont result in any scheduled services but like i say the bigger and more successful the club becomes there will be demand from Saudi Arabia's end.

It would take more than a few well healed footie fans to make a viable scheduled service, especially when on a small scale map Newcastle looks to be just up the road from Manchester.

Asturias56 13th Nov 2022 15:05

Well Liverpool are a major Garuda link - I've even flown on a Red's badged Airbus from Bali to Jakarta - but they don't turn up at John Lennon.

It's making the Football Club a world name and associating THAT with Saudia - nothing to do with Woolsington.

SWBKCB 13th Nov 2022 16:57


Does anyone know if the new Flybe flights are attracting many pax?
First Sunday flight cancelled....

And just to round off the Saudi footie fans meanderings, Turkish Airlines flies to seven destinations in Saudi Arabia...

Jamesair1 13th Nov 2022 17:00

Maybe any Saudi demand for travel to NCL could be met via Turkish Airlines (Istanbul) should that service be launched.
Previous poster just beat me to it.!!!

Wallsendmag 13th Nov 2022 21:47


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 11330250)
I'd be amazed (and a bit embarrassed as a Geordie to see the way Tyneside is sucking up to the Saudis, but that's for Jet Blast). The match was on national and international TV - the Saudia ads aren't there for the folks in the Leazes End.

Don't be so sue , I spotted it from the Leazes end.

HH6702 14th Nov 2022 01:32

A Friday and Sunday flight would work quite well I think

GrahamK 14th Nov 2022 06:16


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 11330509)
A Friday and Sunday flight would work quite well I think

No it wouldn't.

ATNotts 14th Nov 2022 09:26


Originally Posted by tigertanaka (Post 11329823)
I would be staggered if this turned out to be true but The Northern Echo are suggesting that Saudair could be launching from Newcastle...

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/ne...rport-flights/

How a story in a local paper with photo aside the by-line suggesting the "journalist" is very young and inexperienced and has simply put "two and two together" and made a number somewhat different from four. The story will have got "The Chronicle" a few extra clicks, but has also managed to gain traction through this supposedly better informed thread.

As #GrahamK suggests there is no reason to assume that a Fri/Sun twice weekly service from JED, RUH or anywhere else in the Kingdom is going to be viable, there simply won't be enough Saudi season ticket holders for NUFC fans with the money or inclination to travel, and without wishing to stereotype Newcastle as a city, there aren't going to be that many Saudi young men and women likely to visiting the city on a weekend break for a bender!!

This story needs putting to bed!

nighthawk117 14th Nov 2022 10:03

Nothing is impossible when an airline is state owned.

First of all, lets not forget that Saudi also offer onward connections, so it's not just the NCL-Saudi market at stake here. A nice cheaper alternative to Emirates. Saudi Arabia are making a big push at the moment to open up to tourism, and expanding the airline for connections is a part of that. Secondly, lets not underestimate the wealth of the average Saudi Arabian. There are more than enough wealthy Saudis to fill a Fri/Sun rotation to come and watch Newcastle play - especially on an A319/A320 if the latter has the range to do so.

Although it might just be a new promo as part of the Manchester route to advertise how close it is to Newcastle and boost sales on that route.

Like everything else, we'll just need to wait and see.

HH6702 14th Nov 2022 11:04

how many Saudi’s are living in the north east.

the airline does have A321XR’s on order.

I must admit I don’t think it will happen but never say never.

15 years ago we said the same about EK and look where they are now!

Asturias56 14th Nov 2022 12:11

"nd without wishing to stereotype Newcastle as a city, there aren't going to be that many Saudi young men and women likely to visiting the city on a weekend break for a bender!!"

whilst many Saudis are very religious an awful lot of them like hitting the flesh pots - all those bars and casinos in London, Paris, S Spain etc

They aren't well liked in the Mid East as they are seen as hypocrites who lecture every one else then disappear to Cairo, Beirut or wherever for a good time away from home, Most Saudi young men would think they'd died and gone to heaven in the Bigg Market at the weekend

SWBKCB 14th Nov 2022 12:19

Jet Blast awaits...

Jamesair1 14th Nov 2022 15:48

TUI....SUMMER 23.
Latest changes noted to the timetable:
FARO cancelled
GIRONA cancelled
ANTALYA increased from 3 to 4 weekly
BOURGAS falls from 3 to 2 weekly
LARNACA falls from 3 to 2 weekly

LiamNCL 14th Nov 2022 16:00


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11330774)
TUI....SUMMER 23.
Latest changes noted to the timetable:
FARO cancelled
GIRONA cancelled
ANTALYA increased from 3 to 4 weekly
BOURGAS falls from 3 to 2 weekly
LARNACA falls from 3 to 2 weekly

Larnaca was only 2x weekly this year

Harold77 14th Nov 2022 19:00


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 11330669)
how many Saudi’s are living in the north east.

The real question to ask is how many Saudi investments there are in the North East. Quite a bit.

highwideandugly 14th Nov 2022 20:12

Saudi investments? Apart from the football team, I’m struggling to find any?

The thing is..no one knows.

Dubai is the prime place for connectivity.Doha trying to compete..and Saudi Arabia a late new comer.
Money is no object to any of these guys…so watch this space!

Oh..and don’t forget Turkyie !



Me thinks it’s all just a promotional, sponsorship thing..which of course..in itself is a pretty big deal!

mmeteesside 14th Nov 2022 20:20


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11330876)
Saudi investments? Apart from the football team, I’m struggling to find any?

The thing is..no one knows.

Dubai is the prime place for connectivity.Doha trying to compete..and Saudi Arabia a late new comer.
Money is no object to any of these guys…so watch this space!

Oh..and don’t forget Turkyie !



Me thinks it’s all just a promotional, sponsorship thing..which of course..in itself is a pretty big deal!

SABiC have quite a few plants in the North East…

jensdad 14th Nov 2022 21:31


Originally Posted by Wallsendmag (Post 11330463)
Don't be so sue , I spotted it from the Leazes end.

I'm sure you did, but they aren't paying the amount of money they're paying just to reach the people in the stadium. There'll have been at least as many Chelsea fans watching as there were Saudi United fans.

UnderASouthernSky 14th Nov 2022 21:39


Originally Posted by jensdad (Post 11330909)
I'm sure you did, but they aren't paying the amount of money they're paying just to reach the people in the stadium. There'll have been at least as many Chelsea fans watching as there were Saudi United fans.

Pretty sure I've seen it demonstrated previously that PL matches have different adverts shown on the pitchside boards, depending on where the game is being watched worldwide. So the NCL-CHE game might have Saudia showing on the boards in the stadium and in some territories, but other global audiences might see another logo projected onto the boards instead, depending on what the sponsors request and agree on.

HH6702 15th Nov 2022 14:26


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11330774)
TUI....SUMMER 23.
Latest changes noted to the timetable:
FARO cancelled
GIRONA cancelled
ANTALYA increased from 3 to 4 weekly
BOURGAS falls from 3 to 2 weekly
LARNACA falls from 3 to 2 weekly

some big changes there.
hopefully might see some increases yet or something new

see Ryanair are still to put Faro and Girona on sale for summer 2023

maybe they are increasing flights and tui decided not to go head to head.


Jamesair1 15th Nov 2022 16:04

Other Ryanair flights still not showing on the Summer 23 schedule are....Chania, Cork, Paphos and Zadar

JKKne 15th Nov 2022 18:47


Originally Posted by HH6702 (Post 11331283)
some big changes there.
hopefully might see some increases yet or something new

see Ryanair are still to put Faro and Girona on sale for summer 2023

maybe they are increasing flights and tui decided not to go head to head.

Ive a brother in Girona and used TUI a lot and the flight was barely three quarters full. Think them and jet2 was too much for a low demand resort area

Beatts 16th Nov 2022 15:39

Newcastle United has partnered with Saudi Arabia's national carrier, SAUDIA, as the club prepares for a warm weather training camp in Riyadh this December.

The team will travel to and from Riyadh on board a SAUDIA chartered flight as part of the partnership

Jamesair1 16th Nov 2022 16:04

EASTERN AIRWAYS

ABERDEEN Summer 23 timetable shows an increase in flights...2 daily Mon - Thurs, 1 Fri and Sun.....no flights on Saturday

Jamesair1 16th Nov 2022 16:24

LOGANAIR

SUMMER 23 timetable shows

SOUTHAMPTON....13 WKLY
STAVANGER...........6 WKLY
EXETER..................5 WKLY
BERGEN................2 WKLY
NEWQUAY..............2 WKLY

AircraftOperations 16th Nov 2022 17:10


Originally Posted by Beatts (Post 11331876)
Newcastle United has partnered with Saudi Arabia's national carrier, SAUDIA, as the club prepares for a warm weather training camp in Riyadh this December.

The team will travel to and from Riyadh on board a SAUDIA chartered flight as part of the partnership

How will Geordies get on with a dry airline???

willy wombat 16th Nov 2022 18:21

And a dry country!

Sotonsean 16th Nov 2022 21:34


Originally Posted by willy wombat (Post 11331955)
And a dry country!

Things are slowly but gradually changing in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia is planning to break with it's total ban on alcohol by offering alcoholic drinks at a new resort to open in 2023. The resort will serve wine, cocktails and champagne but no beer.

​​​​​​It would mark the first time that alcohol is permitted for sale in the Islamic kingdom.

The resort is located on the island of Sindalah and is part of the Red Sea megacity Neom.

This mega project is a bid by Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman to diversify the Gulf state's oil-dependent economy.

Search online for Neom and you will also see that a huge airport has recently been built on the island of Sindalah to serve the resort.

But in typing that, it in no way implies that there will be a connection from NCL to Saudi Arabia which I think that most agree is a complete pipe dream. Plus with no beer available for sale at the resort it will obviously have no interest to your average Geordie.

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SWBKCB 16th Nov 2022 22:12

Time to get a grip - this is a sponsorship arrangement where Saudia are flying NUFC on a mid season training trip.


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