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Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10908312)
Cornwall Council`s Head of Finance has said Newquay Airport is not currently viable.
More than 100 jobs to go at Leeds/LBA due to Covid. If as I expect that 2021 is another bad year then many airports may need to be taken into state ownership. Maybe call it British Airports Authority or something like that :E Medium term issue is paying the employees and ability to pay down debt.................... neither of which is likely in the medium term. |
Originally Posted by Playamar2
(Post 10908045)
JCVI produced a list of who would qualify for the vaccination. This is the provisional order.
1. Over 80 plus health & care home workers and high risk over 65 2. Over 75 3. Over 70 4. Over 65 5. High & moderate risk under 65 6. Over 60 7. Over 55 8. Over 50 9. Rest of population The UK has ordered 100 million doses from AstraZeneca/jJenner Institute Oxford Uni so there should be enough to go around (UK population 68 million). They have also ordered 30 million form Pfizer, 60 million from Sanofi/GSK and 60 million from Novavax. Per head of population the UK has ordered more than any other country - hedging their bets that at least one vaccine will come through. As I am not in the first 3 groups I would take the vaccine when offered as some countries may bar entry to non vaccinated visitors or you have to go into quarantine. Of course excluding healthcare essential workers in 1-3 if many of these people died then perhaps Govt may look on it as not necessarily a bad thing. How much they would save from Pension / Healthcare and inheritance of peoples assets. I don't think yet we have many politicians who think of the 2 points above but you can be pretty sure there are some that do. |
Racedo has misread the context of the very specific & legal pronouncement & warning by Cornwall Council`s Head of Finance in this instance.
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By the way, the group 'healthcare workers' should include all Key Workers. So that means Police and similar, as well as all who work in the funeral trades.
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Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10907717)
Some see a vaccine as a panacea for everything, quite happy for these people to be first in line as "testers". I will wait a couple of years.
Seems you and others here are willing to sacrifice the industry and fear the vaccine more than the virus, yet it is the virus that has devastated lives for those that have not even caught it. |
Originally Posted by southside bobby
(Post 10908428)
Racedo has misread the context of the very specific & legal pronouncement & warning by Cornwall Council`s Head of Finance in this instance.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10908600)
And if everyone had the same view what would that do to the future of aviation and the length of time the virus will be with us and that will continue to grow without complete lockdowns every few months.
Seems you and others here are willing to sacrifice the industry and fear the vaccine more than the virus, yet it is the virus that has devastated lives for those that have not even caught it. |
If everybody gets virus then what ? You are assumming vaccine is a panacea that ends it all, how is common cold immunity going ? Learning to live with it is the reality.
Easily said by those not in the high risk group, of which there are many (and not just the aged). The mortality rate of the common cold versus Covid is somewhat different! |
Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10908867)
If everybody gets virus then what ? You are assumming vaccine is a panacea that ends it all, how is common cold immunity going ? Learning to live with it is the reality.
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Anyone want to make a guess as to the additions to the UK's naughty step for tomorrow ? I'm looking at Cyprus and Sweden, but wonder what others think
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10909055)
Which means aviation is dead as most people have yet to be exposed to the virus. I can’t see governments saying just carry on and people just resume their foreign travels without hindrance.
Nobody know how many people have been exposed. |
What odds on Grant Shapps giving the green light to half term holidays in the Canary Islands tomorrow? Slim to anorexic I know, but the latest figures put 4/7 below the government's threshold, with Gran Canaria far below some still on the 'green' list. Tenerife looks a no go, even though the majority of their recent cases are in Santa Cruz, far from the tourist resorts.
Tenerife: 53.50 El Hierro: 36.47 Gran Canaria: 26.43 Lanzarote: 18.39 Fuerteventura: 16.26 La Palma: 4.84 La Gomera: 4.65 |
Originally Posted by racedo
(Post 10909182)
Based on what facts ? Collegaues both had the virus in March and were out for weeks. Neither have been tested when they were ill. Death rate from those who have tested positive is 2.7% worldwide. (1,133,000 / 41,366,000).
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The WHO estimate that around 10% of the world's population have had covid. So that's circa 740 million worldwide vs 1.13m comfirmed deaths.
Makes the percentages look a little different doesn't it. |
If you're using estimates of the number of people who have had Covid19, then you must use estimates of the number of deaths, and that number in many developing countries is several times the number of confirmed Covid19 deaths. Even in the USA the number of excess deaths is, I think I read today, at least 50% higher than the number of confirmed deaths.
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From Saturday morning, Germany will consider all of the UK to be a high risk area - not just some regions. IoM and Channel Islands will still be deemed low risk
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 10909428)
From Saturday morning, Germany will consider all of the UK to be a high risk area - not just some regions. IoM and Channel Islands will still be deemed low risk
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Vokes55 - you should have placed a bet on the Canaries, removed from quarantine as from this Sunday.
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Pleasantly surprised they all got the green light. I expected Lanzarote and Fuerteventura but not the whole lot. Seems some common sense is finally breaking through.
Gives some companies a fighting chance of some revenue throughout the Winter. Still waiting for Egypt to be added - or at least Sharm el Sheikh, which is essentially an island given the occupation of North Sinai |
Who thinks the Canaries will go back on to the naughty list once infectious Brits start to arrive.
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